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Saarlane 15-07-2007 11:49

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Originally Posted by albion tifo
We need a striker and a left back. Janku isn't for us and Serginho lost his dynamism. The point is what we can get for the moment. Its only Sheva and Zambrotta avaliable for the moment I guess. Maybe we can solve something for future and that is Pato.It isn't all to our old fashioned managment to blame for our poor activities in market. Transfers are compared with gambling. Who would believed in 04' than old Cafu and young Kaka will do that impact for us.They was our major signigns after we get champions league.

No-no, Janku is just great. Still we need some defenders and definitely a striker, as Ricardo has joined Zaragoza. There's still half a summer to come and surely there will be some transfers made.

albion tifo 15-07-2007 13:00

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Originally Posted by Saarlane
No-no, Janku is just great. Still we need some defenders and definitely a striker, as Ricardo has joined Zaragoza. There's still half a summer to come and surely there will be some transfers made.

He doesn't know to defend, he is just a mediocre midfield player which Carlito transformed in LB and Liverpool almost explained to us than he isn't for that role.

teis 15-07-2007 14:11

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Originally Posted by albion tifo
He doesn't know to defend, he is just a mediocre midfield player which Carlito transformed in LB and Liverpool almost explained to us than he isn't for that role.

Have you actually seen him play in other games or not? I'm really curious, cause when someone is badmouthing Jankulovski, the only that seems to come out of their mouth is Liverpool

And he wasn't transformed into a LB by Ancelotti, he already played there when we got him. But he's a player like Cafu, and in our system he can't play like he did with Udinese.

GreatKalu 15-07-2007 15:18

^^ True. And even at Athens, Clarence was as much to blame for not tracking back. On many an occasion, Finnan + Pennant were double teaming Janku.

But he did make some silly errors + probably isn't a top rated LB. One criticism is that he over-commits himself when on his marauding runs - but thats probably more to do with instruction given our narrow play. Still, doesn't detract from his decent performances such as against United or Bayern.

And even if we were to get a replacement, Zambrotta aside, I doubt there are many available LBs on the market who would guarantee a better shift than Janku does. Speaking of which, to his credit, he played the most minutes in our defense.

gahanthegod 15-07-2007 17:01

Janku is class, but not worldclass. There are many better options. He can be used as a backup. But it's not priority to replace him NOW. CB & forward additions are more urgent than to replace Janku.

Pirlo Fan 15-07-2007 17:16

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Originally Posted by Tsar
Well its basically what Wild said, regardless of who the targets are and how close Galliani gets to signing them - the end result of the "policy" as a whole doesn't pull it off. So transfer targets good or bad aren't coming through - which will lead to late/inflated/overrated panic buys.

Some might be saying the squad is pretty much fine as it is and that the management are doing alright on the market because we don't need reinforcements. Well thats bollocks, anyone who watched Milan's performance in Serie A last season can't fail to notice that the squad was left lacking in all 3 outfield departments. If it wasn't then why has the very same management been trying to sign defenders, central midfielders, attacking midfielders and strikers? I don't think there is any doubt that the management have identified Milan's weaknesses, even though at times it seems they haven't acted on them. But you don't attempt to sign Abidal on whim - so they like me conclude a defender is needer. You don't try and sign Riquelme, Tiago, Edmilson, Motta, Ribery & Emerson on a whim - again they have concluded that a midfielder is needed. And you certainly don't try and sign a striker like Suazo, Milito, Toni, Fred, Henry, Shevchenko, Eto'o & Drogba on a whim - which once more identifies this department as needing replenished by the management.

The argument about the transfer policy is not about wether signings are needed, there is consensus on that with most fans and the management. Its about how effective that policy is on obtaining the needed signings - and based on current events that policy has failed - so far not a succesful deal in all of those many targets, most already signed for another club or commited themselves to their current one.

I agree with basically everything Tsar had said. Hit the nail on the head there.

Gatorbasu 15-07-2007 17:30

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Originally Posted by fiume_1987
P.S. When we won CL 2003. we signed Cafu and Kaka and marched to the scudetto triumph following season 03/04 when Ancelotti's Milan was IMO the best club in the world (too bad about La Coruna, though :(

I agree with the fact that our 2003/04 squad was the best club team of this decade.

BTW, a lot of people are saying that we haven't won anything for last two seesons, which is an absolutely right statement.

But at the same token, I guess, at least in our minds, we know that we should have won the 2004-05 CL trophy and that is no fault of our transfer policy, becuase I think we had the best club team of the world at that time.

Also, that year, we lost to JUVE when we were on same points with three games left. BTW, don't forget that we were denied for two penalties in that match too !!

Now, year 2005-06 was really not a great year but still we managed to get all the way upto SEMIs of CL, again, SHEVA's legitimate goal againist BARCA was denided by the referee.

So. of course, in terms of performance, if we benchmark our perfomance versus any other European club's over the course of last 5 years, and start measuring them by points, such as being Champion means 8 points, Final means 6 points, Semifinal means 4 points, Quarterfinal means 2 points and same with the scudetto and every other domestic leagues, I am confident that we will do the best in the entire European Soccer Community.

Thus, by measuring our management team by performance, they are doing real good.

Having said all that, we need some young players too and the cycle should always go on.

But seriously, we are not going to do anything in the midfield and frankly, I don't want to change our midfiled, even to the point, I don't want RONALDINHO to come to MILAN to upset the chemistry in the midfield that we have right now.

Forward line, as I have mentioned, one good striker will be enough for me. In fact, I am not a GILA fan and could have gone for a different striker at his cost, but apparently, we are sticking with him.

That brings us to the backline, BONERA is not the next prodigy by any means. Probably would have been great to add on somebody new by giving up old crows such as FAVALLI. Till this date, I have never understood the fact why we got him at the first place??

And one more point to remember, that we can only afford 2 players per position except goalies. Thus, without giving up old players, we can't buy new players, otherwise it will be too expensive for us to run the club.

Thus, I agree with some of the posts that we could have taken out some old crows (BROCCHI, SERGINHO & FAVALLI) and gone out to buy some new defenders.

The other concern is our weak sub for our GOALKEEPER's position. Seriously, that KALAC guy is worthless and I don't even know how good FIORI is !! We need at least an young keeper, who can play second fiddle to DIDA if he gets injured !!

With rest of squad I have no qualms or complains.

I think we will reach MOSCOW next year, too !!

FORZA MILANO !!

rosso_neri 16-07-2007 00:48

mate, janku one of the best lb's in italy, enough about the liverpool game

acerвιc wιт 16-07-2007 04:36

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Originally Posted by Tsar
Well its basically what Wild said, regardless of who the targets are and how close Galliani gets to signing them - the end result of the "policy" as a whole doesn't pull it off. So transfer targets good or bad aren't coming through - which will lead to late/inflated/overrated panic buys.

You mean like Nesta? :o

rosso_neri 16-07-2007 05:25

for me, 04/05 was the stronger than the 03/04 squad. kaka and sheva dominated in the league, i remember score lines like milan 6 - 0 fiorentina and milan 5 - 2 lecce. Not to mention having players like cafu and crespo who were in the best forms of their careers. Despite istanbul it was the best year watching milan for me. I think the 04/05 jersey is the best one to date as well.

acerвιc wιт 16-07-2007 05:32

^No doubt... if we still had Shevchenko we wouldn't have to buy anyone its just noone in our team can score consistently in the league... except for Ronaldo or Favalli.

Kuzimoto 16-07-2007 06:47

[QUOTE=... except for Ronaldo or Favalli.[/QUOTE]

:D :D :D

Dann 16-07-2007 10:36

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Originally Posted by rosso_neri
for me, 04/05 was the stronger than the 03/04 squad. kaka and sheva dominated in the league, i remember score lines like milan 6 - 0 fiorentina and milan 5 - 2 lecce. Not to mention having players like cafu and crespo who were in the best forms of their careers. Despite istanbul it was the best year watching milan for me. I think the 04/05 jersey is the best one to date as well.


how about 05/06 we got 80 something goals in the league, sheva had 19, gila had 17 and kaka had 14 but yeah the year we had crespo on loan we were also very strong.

Matmil04 16-07-2007 10:44

i think there is no need to specify the team who were very strong in the last recent years just for one really important factor: since 02/03 we had the same team! indipendently from the players form we always played in same players so we were always strong, just to give you some sample: there were 7 players in Athens' final who played in 02/03 CL Final.

Tsar 16-07-2007 12:46

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Originally Posted by San Paolo
You mean like Nesta? :o

You mean 30M Euro Nesta? Yes I would call that a inflated price for a centre back from a near bankrupt club in 2002. I'd also class £15M + Vogel for overrated Oliveira inflated. Not to mention £18M Gilardino.
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Originally Posted by San Paolo
^No doubt... if we still had Shevchenko we wouldn't have to buy anyone its just noone in our team can score consistently in the league... except for Ronaldo or Favalli.

Why then has the clubs management - coach and all, decided we need a defender and midfielder? You know whats better for the squad than them do you?

Aapert 16-07-2007 12:57

I don't understand how our management can think that we can success with the strikers we have right now. Last season our strikers sucked hard, execpt Ronaldo . We need a god damn world class striker!.
I think that only ones we can have are Sheva or Pato and I don't see those two a good options, Pato maybe If we sign also a stiker who has proved him self as a great scorer (I don't mean sheva :) ).

rosso_neri 16-07-2007 13:17

wasn't vogel a free transfer?

acerвιc wιт 16-07-2007 13:24

People are freaking out too much over our transfer policy. The majority don't know how Galliani opperates. He is a shifty bloke, people need to realise this. He is obviously frustrated with the amount of pounding him and Berlusconi are getting, in this case. We will sign players. It's the invetable. Today Galliani just mentioned that we will sign a champion who is a "non-EU" player. I believe we are deadset in serious talks with Pato and that we will purchase him.

radioactivenerd 16-07-2007 13:36

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Originally Posted by San Paolo
People are freaking out too much over our transfer policy. The majority don't know how Galliani opperates. He is a shifty bloke, people need to realise this. He is obviously frustrated with the amount of pounding him and Berlusconi are getting, in this case. We will sign players. It's the invetable. Today Galliani just mentioned that we will sign a champion who is a "non-EU" player. I believe we are deadset in serious talks with Pato and that we will purchase him.

hope ur right, but calling a 17 y/o a champion is a bit too much.

Italian Tsar 16-07-2007 14:36

God, we're going for Drogba? :rolleyes: He'll be 31 before he adapts to Serie A :yawn:


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