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David 11-07-2011 22:24

English Premier League Thread II
 
Please continue here.

manutd fan 11-07-2011 22:26

News:

1. Chelsea have made a new bid of 27M for Modric.

2. Fergie was asked in Boston if we're in for Nasri and he said Nasri is going to another club (obviously City).

3. Essien is out for 6 months.

KujaIX 11-07-2011 22:33

Did you do this on request, David?

Or is my forum fucking up?

No worries.

hdcantona 11-07-2011 22:34

Ok, take 2...

Last season't top scorers:

:proud: :star: :proud: DIMITAR BERBATOV :proud: :star: :proud:

http://api.ning.com/files/d6hgxnd8Yo...C/Berbatov.png

and tevez

http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/37/22/83c09...8600-small.jpg

KujaIX 11-07-2011 22:36

My god, who showed Gollum how to dress?

manutd fan 11-07-2011 22:36

Some stats from last season

20 - Jermain Defoe became the 20th player to score 100 Premier League goals; the only player to break in to this select group this season.

350 - David Moyes became only the fourth manager to take charge of 350 or more Premier League matches as manager after Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Harry Redknapp.

573 - Ryan Giggs broke the record for the most Premier League appearances, overtaking David James (572) this season.

400 - Brad Friedel became only the third goalkeeper in Premier League history to make 400 appearances in the competition following his appearance on the final day against Liverpool.

500 - Paul Robinson has conceded 501 Premier League goals, becoming the fifth 'keeper to let in 500 goals in the competition.

25 - Manchester United won the league title this season despite picking up only 25 points away from home; the lowest total by any Premier League title winner.

2 - Only two sides have ever won a 20+ team English title with fewer away wins than Manchester United (5): Sheffield Wednesday in 1929/29 (3) and Newcastle United in 1906/07 (4).

19 - Manchester United lifted their 19th English league title; a new record, overtaking Liverpool's total of 18.

8 - Between January 1st - May 22nd 2011, Robin van Persie scored in nine consecutive Premier League matches away from home; a new record.

3 - John Pantsil scored three own goals for Fulham in the Premier League this season, equalling the record for the most scored in a single season by a player (Andreas Jakobsson, Wigan, 2003/04).

34 - West Bromwich Albion set a new Premier League record of 34 consecutive matches without keeping a clean sheet, between 29th August 2010 & 8th May 2011.

2 - West Bromwich Albion have kept only two clean sheets in the Premier League all season; a new record.

18 - Liverpool scored in 18 successive matches between January 1st - May 9th 2011; the longest such run in the Premier League this season.

43 - Carlos Tevez has scored 43 goals in the Premier League since he joined Manchester City on the eve of 2009/10; more than any other player.

3 - Dimitar Berbatov scored three hat-tricks in the Premier League this season, only Alan Shearer (five in 1995/96) has netted more in a single campaign.

1000 - DJ Campbell scored the 1000th goal of the 2010/11 Premier League season against Bolton on May 14th 2011.

34 - Manchester City have secured a top three finish in the top-flight for the first time in 34 years, since 1976/77.

55 - No side have scored as many goals as Blackpool (55) did this campaign in a Premier League season and still been relegated.

41 - There were 41 goals scored on Saturday 5th February 2011, a record for a 38-game Premier League season & only second to 8th May 1993 (47 goals) overall.

7 - On that same day (Saturday 5th February 2011), seven goals were scored from the penalty spot; a new Premier League record.

90 - There were fewer away wins in the Premier League this season than ever before (90, previous worst was 91 in 2009/10).

1000 - Tottenham Hotspur became the sixth team to accrue 1000 points in Premier League history following their 2-1 away victory at Sunderland on February 12th 2011.

1500 - Following their 3-0 home win over West Ham on August 29th 2010, Manchester United became the first team to win 1500 points in the Premier League era.

41 - At the age of 41 years and 152 days, Jens Lehmann became the sixth oldest player to ever play in the Premier League following his appearance against Blackpool on April 10th 2011.

17 - There have been 17 hat-tricks scored in the Premier League this season; beating the previous record of 16 set in a 20-team season back in both 1995/96 & 1997/98.

8 - At the age of 20 years and 139 days old, Mario Balotelli became the eighth youngest player to score a hat-trick in the Premier League with his treble on 28th December 2010 against Aston Villa, and the youngest since Luke Moore in 2005/06.

11 - 2010/11 was the 11th consecutive season in which the golden boot was won by a foreign player, with the last Englishman to win it being Kevin Phillips in 1999/00.

41 - Edwin Van der Sar became the oldest player to win a Premier League title at the age of 40 years and 205 days (on Sunday May 22nd 2011)

55 - Manchester United equalled the highest points total at home in Premier League history (55), level with Chelsea in 2005/06.

71 - Everton picked up their 71st red card in the Premier League with Seamus Coleman's dismissal versus Chelsea on the final day, equalling Blackburn Rovers' all-time record.

123 - Kevin Davies committed 123 fouls in the Premier League this season; the most by a player since Opta began their analysis on the league back in 1996.

32 - Maxi Rodriquez's goal versus Fulham on 9th May 2011 was the fastest recorded in the Premier League this season at 32 seconds.

2.80 - There were 2.80 goals per game on average this season; the highest ratio in Premier League history

1968 - The last English top-flight season to see a higher goals-per-game rate than 2010-11 (2.80) was 1967-68 (3.03).

3.09 - On average, Premier League games in May produced the most goals per game (3.09) this season.

2.28 - In October, the Premier League goals per game ratio was only 2.28; the lowest of any month this season.

9 - Carlos Tevez scored the first goal of the game on nine occasions in the Premier League this season; more often than any other player.

3420 - Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel and Everton full-back Leighton Baines were the only two outfield players to play every single minute of the 2010/11 Premier League season.

18 - Robin van Persie equalled the Premier League record of 18 goals scored in a season from January 1 onwards held by Thierry Henry and Cristiano Ronaldo.

1 - Only one opposition side scored a first half goal at Old Trafford this season, that coming in Man Utd's final game - Charlie Adam for Blackpool.

20 - The top goalscorer award was shared by Carlos Tevez and Dimitar Berbatov, the first time it has been shared since 1998-99 (Owen/Hasselbaink/Yorke 18)

191 - There were fewer clean sheets in the Premier League this season than any other campaign.

4 - Blackburn would have finished fourth if only first halves counted in 2010-11.

23 - Newcastle's Nile Ranger was the most used substitute in the division, 23 times.

19 - Jerome Thomas, Andrey Arshavin and Jermaine Pennant were all substituted 19 times, more than any other player this season.

Sasha 11-07-2011 22:51

BPL... :max:

Dottore Joey 11-07-2011 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasha (Post 1044100)
BPL... :max:

:thumbsup:

I really come to this website to be in the Italian football discussion and Ac Milan discussion because were i am from it's all about the BPL.

And even here some two Man Utd dude keeping this updated !

DAYMNNNN !!! :lol:

And this is one of the most discussed website after Rumor Commode... :fp:

C'mon !!! :(

manutd fan 11-07-2011 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by President Joey (Post 1044108)
:thumbsup:

I really come to this website to be in the Italian football discussion and Ac Milan discussion because were i am from it's all about the BPL.

And even here some two Man Utd dude keeping this updated !

DAYMNNNN !!! :lol:

EPL is dominant. Serie A is behind the times and aimed at backwards people ;)

hdcantona 11-07-2011 23:00

If it's the most discussed other than Rumour Commode, doesn't that tell you that it's more than just 2 dudes keeping it going?

Dottore Joey 11-07-2011 23:37

There are more, but you two are dominant forces ;)

Calum1903 12-07-2011 00:57

40% funded by phone hacking.

Zeusftw 12-07-2011 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutd fan (Post 1044112)
EPL is dominant. Serie A is behind the times and aimed at backwards people ;)

LOL

1 EPL CL win in the past decade vs 3 italian CL victories

MILAN > Man Shitty

Dottore Joey 12-07-2011 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mateoftw (Post 1044237)
LOL

1 EPL CL win in the past decade vs 3 italian CL victories

MILAN > Man Shitty

You really skipped Math didn't you ? :D

Fiero 12-07-2011 03:55

Luka Modric is a cunt. I admit I want to see him in Chelsea, but I'm fed up with players who think it's their right not honor their contract. He wants to leave, okay I'm fine with that, but he shouldn't blast Levy for not selling him when only last summer he signed a six year contract.

Even if there was a "gentleman's agreement" to let him go if a big club comes in. You signed a contract, you abide by it. He's acting like he's being victimized. Cunt. I hope Spurs don't sell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by President Joey (Post 1044245)
You really skipped Math didn't you ? :D

I don't think it's math.

What does math have to do with the fact that "manutd fan" does, in fact, not support City? :D

Unless he was referring to Utd with the nickname Man Shitty. Then in that case he's just really good with nicknames.

manutd fan 12-07-2011 05:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mateoftw (Post 1044237)
LOL

1 EPL CL win in the past decade vs 3 italian CL victories

MILAN > Man Shitty



I'm going to assume that you had a mental break down, so I'll let you off the City comment.

acmilan4ever 12-07-2011 07:26

Corinthians make £35m offer for Manchester City's Carlos Tevez:eek:
• Return to old club in Brazil may suit Argentinian
• Twenty-seven-year-old wants to be closer to his family

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y-carlos-tevez

***************************

Tottenham to reject improved offer from Chelsea for Luka Modric
• Spurs standing firm despite new bid worth up to £27m
• Croatian has expressed desire to join Stamford Bridge club

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...er-luka-modric

**************************

Chelsea resigned to losing Michael Essien until well into new year
• Midfielder undergoes operation after being hurt in training
• Damaged knee is same one that he injured in 2008

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...d-bridge-ghana

Zeusftw 12-07-2011 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutd fan (Post 1044342)


I'm going to assume that you had a mental break down, so I'll let you off the City comment.

by man shitty i obviously meant manchester united

@joey

i forgot liverpool woops 2. liverpool won due to gerrard diving so i dont even think that should count lmao. 3>2 i dont get where my math fails my point is still 100% valid especially considering serie a has been in a decline in the past 5 years lmao

Footiefan 12-07-2011 10:38

Carlos Tevez's advisor Kia Joorabchian claims a deal to take the Manchester City captain back to Corinthians is "close" and that the player is helping drive the deal.

Quote:

The Brazilian club have tabled a £40 million offer after being alerted by Tevez's admission earlier this month that he wished to leave City for the sake of his family.

A move to a club in Europe had appeared the Argentina international's most likely route out of Manchester until it was confirmed last night that Corinthians were attempting to resign a player who played for them between January 2005 and August 2006.

"Corinthians made the offer, now it depends only on Manchester City. City have to make a decision," Joorabchian told www.espn.com.br.

"Everybody is working to make this happen, me, Corinthians, Tevez and Adrian Ruocco (another of Tevez's representatives).

"It is impossible to determine the situation, but I think it's close."

OneUnited 12-07-2011 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasha (Post 1044100)
BPL

What?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mateoftw (Post 1044369)
by man shitty i obviously meant manchester united

@joey

i forgot liverpool woops 2. liverpool won due to gerrard diving so i dont even think that should count lmao. 3>2 i dont get where my math fails my point is still 100% valid especially considering serie a has been in a decline in the past 5 years lmao

What?

Gio 12-07-2011 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutd fan (Post 1044112)
EPL is dominant. Serie A is behind the times and aimed at backwards people ;)

Regardless of who it's "aimed at" I still enjoy it more. The gameplay the passion the fans, it's far more entertaining than the Premiership for me. Too many teams in the EPL have the Bolton "let's kick the fuck out of you and the ball tactic because we dont really have anyone who can play football in our squads" then you have fans creating fuck all atmosphere even when sold out (Arsenal, ManUtd).

In Serie A the game is slower but I think anyone would be foolish to not admit this allows for far more skill and impressive goals and team play, not all based on kick and run. Then the fans, when a team wins a title, be it for the first or the twenty first time, they go absolutely crazy, fill the streets with people, cars, mopeds, flags, flares, fireworks, beeping horns left right and centre... I only need quote the FA Cup's most recent victors to show the difference.

Then, rivalries, ohhh the rivalries. Manchester United - Liverpool? Fuck off, Genoa held a frigging funeral for Sampdoria!

Ash 12-07-2011 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giova21 (Post 1044509)
Regardless of who it's "aimed at" I still enjoy it more. The gameplay the passion the fans, it's far more entertaining than the Premiership for me. Too many teams in the EPL have the Bolton "let's kick the fuck out of you and the ball tactic because we dont really have anyone who can play football in our squads" then you have fans creating fuck all atmosphere even when sold out (Arsenal, ManUtd).

In Serie A the game is slower but I think anyone would be foolish to not admit this allows for far more skill and impressive goals and team play, not all based on kick and run. Then the fans, when a team wins a title, be it for the first or the twenty first time, they go absolutely crazy, fill the streets with people, cars, mopeds, flags, flares, fireworks, beeping horns left right and centre... I only need quote the FA Cup's most recent victors to show the difference.

Then, rivalries, ohhh the rivalries. Manchester United - Liverpool? Fuck off, Genoa held a frigging funeral for Sampdoria!

:star::star::star:

:lol:

KujaIX 12-07-2011 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giova21 (Post 1044509)
Regardless of who it's "aimed at" I still enjoy it more. The gameplay the passion the fans, it's far more entertaining than the Premiership for me. Too many teams in the EPL have the Bolton "let's kick the fuck out of you and the ball tactic because we dont really have anyone who can play football in our squads" then you have fans creating fuck all atmosphere even when sold out (Arsenal, ManUtd).

In Serie A the game is slower but I think anyone would be foolish to not admit this allows for far more skill and impressive goals and team play, not all based on kick and run. Then the fans, when a team wins a title, be it for the first or the twenty first time, they go absolutely crazy, fill the streets with people, cars, mopeds, flags, flares, fireworks, beeping horns left right and centre... I only need quote the FA Cup's most recent victors to show the difference.

Then, rivalries, ohhh the rivalries. Manchester United - Liverpool? Fuck off, Genoa held a frigging funeral for Sampdoria!


Yeah yeah but those 2 throw faeces at each other!!! Now that has to account for something... they hate each other so much they revert back a few steps in the evolutionary tree. Now that is rivalry!

Gio 12-07-2011 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by KujaIX (Post 1044524)
Yeah yeah but those 2 throw faeces at each other!!! Now that has to account for something... they hate each other so much they revert back a few steps in the evolutionary tree. Now that is rivalry!

Just shows how true a rivalry it is, that it becomes them.

OneUnited 12-07-2011 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giova21 (Post 1044509)
Genoa held a frigging funeral for Sampdoria!

Italians being ostentatious shocker.

manutd fan 12-07-2011 18:35

I'm amazed that anyone took that serious...

The atmosphere in the EPL is better than Italy (and Spain). If you don't believe me, look for quotes on players that have played in various leagues.

I went to Milan/Juve in 03 and the whistling is extremely loud, the colours are great, but in terms of fan interation it's nothing compared to atmosphere's in the UK, where you'll often find supporters screaming for a corner kick :lol:

Anyone who thinks Bolton still play the "kick you off the pitch" style is ignorant and clearly hasn't watched them in a long time. They play some good stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giova21 (Post 1044527)
Just shows how true a rivalry it is, that it becomes them.

United fans don't throw shit. Please, if you're going to argue, then atleast know what the fook you're talking about.

Ash 12-07-2011 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutd fan (Post 1044753)
I'm amazed that anyone took that serious...

The atmosphere in the EPL is better than Italy (and Spain). If you don't believe me, look for quotes on players that have played in various leagues.

I went to Milan/Juve in 03 and the whistling is extremely loud, the colours are great, but in terms of fan interation it's nothing compared to atmosphere's in the UK, where you'll often find supporters screaming for a corner kick :lol:

Anyone who thinks Bolton still play the "kick you off the pitch" style is ignorant and clearly hasn't watched them in a long time. They play some good stuff.



United fans don't throw shit. Please, if you're going to argue, then atleast know what the fook you're talking about.

Are you serious? You are judging fan atmosphere in Italy based on a CL Final you watched IN the U.K? :fp::lol:

If anything, it proves how dull the U.K. actually is, especially considering almost half of the crowd who attended were from the U.K.

Senatore_M84 12-07-2011 18:54

cmon man utd fan.... nuetral site games out of country are always lame in terms of atmosphere

I've been to both serie a and EPL games. English sing more. Which is hardly a sign of 'cheering louder'. Just a sign of questionable sexual preference in IMO. Men singing songs about other men... ehhhhhh

I've actually found Serie A games to be more profain, lol.

Gio 12-07-2011 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutd fan (Post 1044753)
I'm amazed that anyone took that serious...

The atmosphere in the EPL is better than Italy (and Spain). If you don't believe me, look for quotes on players that have played in various leagues.

I went to Milan/Juve in 03 and the whistling is extremely loud, the colours are great, but in terms of fan interation it's nothing compared to atmosphere's in the UK, where you'll often find supporters screaming for a corner kick :lol:

Anyone who thinks Bolton still play the "kick you off the pitch" style is ignorant and clearly hasn't watched them in a long time. They play some good stuff.


United fans don't throw shit. Please, if you're going to argue, then atleast know what the fook you're talking about.

I was using it as an example that everyone is familiar with, a tactic many teams still adopt: Wolves, Wigan, Stoke, Blackburn.

As for the CL final in 03, was that not based on the fact it was such a dire, dull (as a result of both team's excellent defending) match? If not fair enough but I'm sure that must have had an effect upon it.

I've watched plenty of games this season in Serie A, and been to three (at San Siro) where the fans noise is incessant regardless of the attendance figures. Then at the very top end of the scale you have the likes of the Partenopei faithful who take 10,000 fans to Bologna and turn it into a home game, then the atmosphere in the 4-3 with Lazio was just incredible, nothing the likes of which I've seen in the Premiership.

Sven 12-07-2011 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by acmilan4ever (Post 1044367)
Corinthians make £35m offer for Manchester City's Carlos Tevez:eek:
• Return to old club in Brazil may suit Argentinian
• Twenty-seven-year-old wants to be closer to his family

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y-carlos-tevez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footiefan (Post 1044421)
Carlos Tevez's advisor Kia Joorabchian claims a deal to take the Manchester City captain back to Corinthians is "close" and that the player is helping drive the deal.

There's other news around that what Corinthians really offered was a one-year loan, like Robinho deal to Santos. Seems more realistic.

Anyway, Kia, MSI and all these shady people and groups, connected with Boris Berezovsky, have a close relationship with Corinthians and Tévez, so one can't rule out they are putting money on this.

neutral 12-07-2011 19:12

In light of the recent debate, i feel the need to post this again :lol::lol:


Dottore Joey 12-07-2011 19:47

BPL my ass.

But in all honest i don't see UK people scared at attend to games...

Well you can see now how much rivalry, and hate to each other was/is...

Killing, killing, killing... :rolleyes:

Italy can go Crazy...

English fan are so lame compared to Italians, sorry... I've been to BPL game... Man Utd - Liverpool 2006...

And just in TV i found more Thrill in game like "Milan-Inter" or "Milan-Juventus" :cool:

Charbel 12-07-2011 19:54

So, killing shows rivalry? It show how still behind we are.

EPL is great, but so is Serie A. They are two very different leagues and thus have different style of games. It depends on each person personal's taste...I for one watch both. It should be noted that in Serie A's worse time ..it has won 2 CLs.

Ashish 12-07-2011 20:04

Serie A is stone aged shit.. an excuse for warlike men to go rampant ... Football used to be good years ago.. degraded into shit on and off the field, financially and socailly its in a bad shape.

England has an excellent footballing environment but what they sell is not football, its athletes handling a ball,

Spain is unbalanced

Lets see whether germans can create a serie a of yesteryears in their back ground, they have the quality and finance They need time

necromancer 12-07-2011 20:10

It's pretty similar to arguing about rock vs pop or stuff like that. Two completely different styles - Serie A is for the tactically inclined and EPL for those who like fast-paced less cerebral football.

But it's rather silly to claim that the atmosphere in England is even close to that in Italy. (Songs are only a tiny part of the picture) Which is due to more ultra-types being there in the Serie A stadiums of course, so you can condemn that or not. Personal preference.

Would rather see a mixture of both, not an expensive family show nor a slightly dangerous ultra-dominated situation. Germany probably has a better mix than either.

Dottore Joey 12-07-2011 20:19

Germany get's the title for me today.

In the case of Attend, Stadiums and environment:

1. Germany
2. England
3. Spain
4. Italy

In case of the best teams with Histories, Biggest amount of big teams.

1. Italy
2. England
3. Spain
4. Germany

In case of the today best teams.

1. England
2. Spain
3. Italy
4. Germany

Senatore_M84 12-07-2011 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashish (Post 1044800)
Serie A is stone aged shit.. an excuse for warlike men to go rampant ... Football used to be good years ago.. degraded into shit on and off the field, financially and socailly its in a bad shape.

I have a different theory on it. Serie A is stone age cause of finances mostly. Today the van basten's desailley's of there time would go to epl cause of money.

Serie A teams have been forced to try to find players otherways....
be it finding a steal like players from regions less scouted, take advantage of market opportunitieS (like zlatan/robinho... or etoo/sneijder or... huntelaar :) ), or using older players with class and attempting to scheme a way to make up for there declining physical nature.

It's all tied back to money

manutd fan 12-07-2011 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 1044757)
Are you serious? You are judging fan atmosphere in Italy based on a CL Final you watched IN the U.K? :fp::lol:

If anything, it proves how dull the U.K. actually is, especially considering almost half of the crowd who attended were from the U.K.

No it wasn't. Not at all. The fact majority were Italian. When I walked outside OT there were huge groups singing songs in Italian. Don't forget prices were nowhere near as expensive then. Good comparison from a United POV is the 99 final vs the 11 final. For the record, Italian referee Colina said that that was his best memory ever because of the noise the United fans made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giova21 (Post 1044764)
I was using it as an example that everyone is familiar with, a tactic many teams still adopt: Wolves, Wigan, Stoke, Blackburn.

As for the CL final in 03, was that not based on the fact it was such a dire, dull (as a result of both team's excellent defending) match? If not fair enough but I'm sure that must have had an effect upon it.

I've watched plenty of games this season in Serie A, and been to three (at San Siro) where the fans noise is incessant regardless of the attendance figures. Then at the very top end of the scale you have the likes of the Partenopei faithful who take 10,000 fans to Bologna and turn it into a home game, then the atmosphere in the 4-3 with Lazio was just incredible, nothing the likes of which I've seen in the Premiership.

You can argue with me about San Siro vs OT, but United's away fans are amazing. Best in the country. United have always taken huge numbers to away games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlMc...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m0n8...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZskpfpuEGf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb77jvyly2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSS-D...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qcn...eature=related

I'm not trying to blow United's horn here, there's plenty of teams who are similar (Nothing in Serie A can compare to Stoke - they have the best home support). Spurs and Newcastle also have an excellent away support.

United fans at San Siro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzRn1ECh2_0
And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm9YM...eature=related

If you're talking about colour, then Anfield is hard to beat (sadly): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xvegPH_Lw

Liverpool fans were louder than Milan fans in both your finals. At the end of the 07 final all you could hear was YNWA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2jg9...eature=related

Half time in Istanbul, 3-0 down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8CEh...eature=related

I feel dirty...

British football can't compete with the atmosphere OUTSIDE the stadium though. The days of 25 thousand people walking to a match at the other end of the country are long gone.

OneUnited 12-07-2011 20:38

Really, what the fuck is the 'BPL'?

Dottore Joey 12-07-2011 20:43

Barclays Premier League. You should know that.


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