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Which team will finish 2nd after Milan?


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Roncaglia is an amazing defender :star:

he was a free transfer this year :fp:

you would think our management would have gone for him, he would have been the ideal cheap Silva replacement.

him and Zapata would be a great partnership, and the two of them with Acerbi would be an ideal 3 man backline.
 

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so shitner won. can we kick them out of 3rd place?
 

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he was a free transfer this year :fp:

you would think our management would have gone for him, he would have been the ideal cheap Silva replacement.

him and Zapata would be a great partnership, and the two of them with Acerbi would be an ideal 3 man backline.

:g: :g: :g:
 

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just saw palermo vs chievo highlights miccoli :proud:
 

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Yes, I agree with Eccolo in this. Pirlo and Vidal tips the balance in the midfield. Inter have a better attack. Juve undoubtedly have a better defensive system (probably the best in Europe).

Very depressing having this discussion though :|

Weren't you saying Inter have the strongest squad in the season before the league started? :tongue:

Juve have the edge of a better coach and a stronger consistent system. They have an identity while Inter still don't... even with Strama in charge for like six months including a full pre-season with the team and his input in transfer decisions, which is why I really don't see the hype. Conte created an identity for Juve with a weaker squad last season.

Juve have players that fit their system, Inter don't have a system. That's the difference. On paper, to me, Inter's squad offers more.

We have the better... runners I guess? :D Nocerino, Boateng, Abate, Flamini... they all run around A LOT and seemingly without much purpose.

Right now, Quality of squad would probably be:

Juventus
Inter
Napoli
AC Milan
AS Roma
Lazio
Fiorentina

:eek: :lol:

Fiorentina so low? And really, Napoli's squad isn't all that.

Based on squad strength ONLY to me:

Inter
Juve
Fiorentina/Napoli
Milan/Lazio/Roma

Juve have a successful project, Fiorentina are on that track as well... they have a clear idea and identity of what they want and they'll even grow more. Roma have Zeman so it's a gamble and a complete unknown in terms of success. And Napoli of course have their own identity as well.

Milan, Inter, and Lazio don't seem to have much of a project going on. Petkovic doesn't seem much different than Reja, who I believe was doing an excellent job with the resources at hand. Lazio really can't get much farther with their squad... EL spot all over again.

Inter have a clear intent on buying youth and have created an admirable squad, but I've yet to see them resemble anything close to a TEAM. Each match is a different tactic (multiple ones every game as well)... it seems Strama doesn't have a clear idea of what he wants.
 

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:eek: :lol:

Fiorentina so low? And really, Napoli's squad isn't all that.

Based on squad strength ONLY to me:

Inter
Juve
Fiorentina/Napoli
Milan/Lazio/Roma

Juve have a successful project, Fiorentina are on that track as well... they have a clear idea and identity of what they want and they'll even grow more. Roma have Zeman so it's a gamble and a complete unknown in terms of success. And Napoli of course have their own identity as well.

Milan, Inter, and Lazio don't seem to have much of a project going on. Petkovic doesn't seem much different than Reja, who I believe was doing an excellent job with the resources at hand. Lazio really can't get much farther with their squad... EL spot all over again.

Inter have a clear intent on buying youth and have created an admirable squad, but I've yet to see them resemble anything close to a TEAM. Each match is a different tactic (multiple ones every game as well)... it seems Strama doesn't have a clear idea of what he wants.

Fiorentina are improving and have good players but I would not put them above the teams I mentioned, YET. Perhaps you're right that they're above Lazio, but they still have to produce results.
 

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napoli is nothing special tbh, inter and juve obviously are better on paper and so is fiorentina. but us napoli and lazio are on the same boat and just lol @ anyone who thinks roma will finish in top 5 this season. that team sucks donkey balls and they still use taddei lmfao.
 

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Milan second best pass accuracy at 85%, second best possesion at 59%, third in shot counts at 17 per game. Still 12th on goals scored :fp:

Boateng has the highest average of shots in Serie A without a goal yet :fp:

El Sha responsible for the highest percentage of their team's goal. 57% or 4 of 7 :D

Only El Sha and Pazzini has scored for us :fp:
 

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De Rossi could be playing at Man City... He may regret that at some point.

I respect him for staying with the team he loves, but we are talking about one of the best 5 midfielders in the world. Perhaps the best hands down defensive midfielder, who can also play B2B as seen in the EURO, not to mention briefly CB.

Sad...To think also how much better we'd be with him.
 

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Milan second best pass accuracy at 85%, second best possesion at 59%, third in shot counts at 17 per game. Still 12th on goals scored :fp:

Boateng has the highest average of shots in europes top 5 without a goal yet :fp:

El Sha responsible for the highest percentage of their team's goal. 57% or 4 of 7 :D

Only El Sha and Pazzini has scored for us :fp:

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De Rossi could be playing at Man City... He may regret that at some point.

I respect him for staying with the team he loves, but we are talking about one of the best 5 midfielders in the world. Perhaps the best hands down defensive midfielder, who can also play B2B as seen in the EURO, not to mention briefly CB.

Sad...To think also how much better we'd be with him.

Best defensive midfielder :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Who's better?


I hate to say it but I think Busquets is superior as a pure DM. Maybe Bastian and Alonso...

Edit: Actually... they're kinda on the same level, I think it depends on the team and chemistry






















Oh and have we forgotten this guy?
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Weren't you saying Inter have the strongest squad in the season before the league started? :tongue:

I did? I'm fickle like that.

Inter have a large squad.. more number of good players. But they don't have world-class players of the level of Pirlo or Vidal.
 

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Parma have drawn their last three consecutive games by a 1-1 scoreline. Their unbeaten run at the Tardini extends to six wins and two draws since Milan left here with a 2-0 result on March 17. Daniele Galloppa celebrated his seventh Serie A goal. Roberto Donadoni had faced Massimiliano Allegri four times before this and always lost.

Milan had won their previous four encounters with Parma, home and away, not conceding at the Tardini for 246 minutes of football. Stephan El Shaarawy took his Serie A tally to six goals, his fourth in three rounds. The Rossoneri have conceded six goals this season, five of them from dead ball situations :fp::fp::fp:
 

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I really like de rossi, but unfortunately he hardly ever shows world class levels at club level, he wasted his career at roma.

Its not that he wasted it, he just didnt show anything special in the last few years.
 

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thats cuz he is in a shit team.
 

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OUTSKIRTS OF MILAN ITALY Turin, Rome and Genoa are better 01/10/12

In the week of the derby is analysis time for AC Milan and Inter.


After the difficult start in league football in the shadow of Madunina discovers a scary statistic: Ranked in the two Milanese couple have fewer points than the other teams in the major Italian cities.

The center of gravity of our football has shifted: dominate this year's Turin, Rome and Genoa .

A fight with Juventus for the Scudetto is no longer the Milan revolutionized in the summer but the Naples of Cavani Mazzarri .

In addition to the Bianconeri are confirmed at the top of Serie A , the other half smiles of Turin : the grenade Ventura does not make the news only for Atalanta 5-1 but have all it takes to establish itself as an emerging of championship.

Ogbonna provide security and defense, White seems to have unlocked and the game starts to run well on the wings.

The two together have a share in Turin 24 points , they would be even without the 25 point penalty to the Bull of Cairo .

Only 19 points , however, for Inter and Milan : Galliani Moratti and begin to have a bit of a stomach ache.

The biggest problems we have them the Rossoneri are struggling and not convincing.

Despite El Shaarawy over the top team Allegri is still at 7 on the right side of the table.

Too heavy departures of Ibrahimovic, Thiago Silva and senators. Even the ' Inter is not playing very well, but Stramaccioni seems to have found the quadrature of the circle, and the victory has finally arrived at San Siro against Fiorentina .

More on the Milan but there are also the Roman: the Lazio of Petkovic is the third force in the league thanks to Klose and Hernanes , the Rome of Zeman ups and downs showed good football.

The two sides of the city together have 20 points and convince a lot more than AC Milan and Inter.

The surprise comes from Genoa : without penalty point to Samp , the Genoa and Sampdoria would have to share 19 just like Milan.

The team of Ferrara is the revelation of the season along with Fiorentina Montella with Gastaldello and Maxi Lopez and many young quality is coming consistent results despite the many injuries.

The griffin of Precious is not just flying: the game sluggish, but with Borriello and Real Estate goals out there, and in the standings with 8 points this year amounted to Roma and Fiorentina , even in front of Milan .

Suggests that the Naples alone is at 16, just three points behind Milan put together.

And fortunately for the Rossoneri and Nerazzurri even Florence and Bologna have only one team in Serie A .

The ' Inter seems to be increasing, the Milan is a crucial week , Sunday evening there is a derby that is already at the crossroads of the season will see some good
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Its not that he wasted it, he just didnt show anything special in the last few years.

:eek: Er.. Did you just say De Rossi hasnt shown anything special in the last few years?
 

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I really like de rossi, but unfortunately he hardly ever shows world class levels at club level, he wasted his career at roma.

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when were you start watching serie a?
 

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Di Carlo sacked – Corini in at Chievo
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Chievo Verona have confirmed that Eugenio Corini is their new Coach after they took the decision to fire Domenico Di Carlo.

The latter has been axed after the side slumped into the relegation zone following five straight Serie A defeats.

Chievo, beaten 4-1 by Palermo on Sunday, have collected just three points from a possible 18 this term.

Corini, a former midfielder at Chievo who spent six years with the club as a player, has been handed a contract until June 2013, with an option for a second season.

The Italian will be presented to the media later today and he’ll make his debut in Saturday’s game against Sampdoria.

Corini is a relatively inexperienced tactician with brief past spells at Portogruaro, Crotone and Frosinone.
 

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cavani:"i want to reach messi and cristiano ronaldo's level"

wonder if pato dreams of this too :o
 

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Once a clear pointer to a side’s best player, the No 10 shirt is starting to lose its magic in Serie A. Antonio Labbate writes.

The No 10 was once a sacred jersey in Italian football. A second skin for the game’s most gifted and creative players, an instant indication of a team’s source of inspiration, today it continues its sliding transition from the shirt kids dreamed about wearing to just another squad number.

In a country where players of the calibre of Gianni Rivera, Giancarlo Antognoni, Michel Platini, Roberto Mancini, Giuseppe Giannini, Roberto Baggio, Francesco Totti and Alex Del Piero have had their fantasy, class and genius recognised by a number on their back, the majority of today’s 17 Serie A players who have been given that mythical 10 by their club have little in common with its tradition.

Juventus are one of three top-flight clubs, along with Napoli and Cagliari, where the numeral remains unassigned. While Napoli’s has been withdrawn in honour of the great Diego Maradona, the Turin giants opted to keep the number free following the departure of previous owner Alessandro Del Piero – who was against its retiring – this summer.

“Del Piero is missed a lot, but I would not put on his No 10 shirt,” stated Claudio Marchisio. “Whilst it was an ambition of mine when I was younger, I was an attacker back then and now I am a midfielder. I am not Platini, Baggio or Del Piero. I’m not one who can decide a game, so I do not deserve to ever wear that shirt.”

Not everyone, unfortunately, holds the jersey and its historical significance in such high regard. Fiorentina goalkeeper Cristiano Lupatelli did the previously unthinkable while at Chievo and asked for the 10. The club, unbelievably, gave it to him. “The value of numbers in football is changing,” the custodian noted. “The No 10 is not as special as it once was.”

That was further highlighted by the events at Genoa this summer when a dispute between Alexander Merkel and Cristobal Jorquera over who would get the jersey ended up in a blind auction. Although the money ended up going to charity and Merkel is a promising player, he’s not your archetypal – or what we once perceived as a typical – No 10.

So what’s changed? There is no doubt that a combination of factors have seen the jersey lose its uniqueness. The introduction of stable squad numbers in the 1990s worked wonders for merchandising, but allowed players worthy of the 10 to go and pick other digits. Antonio Cassano, for example, has opted for the 99 in recent years.

The evolution of tactics in Serie A may also be a factor given the downturn in true trequartisti, whereas the economic crisis has also had a part to play, given that the peninsula has lost more than one high class player with the ability to shine in a No 10. Take Milan, for example. Zlatan Ibrahimovic was all set to inherit the 10 from Clarence Seedorf until he was sold to Paris SG this summer. Kevin-Prince Boateng subsequently filled the void.

Boateng can be a great player on his day, but he’s no Wesley Sneijder or Francesco Totti when it comes to being a natural fit. But the Ghanaian isn’t the only man on the Serie A landscape whose ability and squad number don’t add up.

Alberto Aquilani, a mezz’ala, was handed the status symbol at Fiorentina this summer despite being half a player on the evidence of his last two seasons on the peninsula. While it seems bombers now have a right to the combination of the one and the zero after Maxi Lopez and Alberto Gilardino took up the number following moves to Sampdoria and Bologna respectively.

“I’ve come here to score goals, not set them up,” admitted Gilardino, perhaps with a hint of embarrassment, after attacking schemer Gaston Ramirez opted for a switch to Southampton. “I admit that it’s a bit weird to have the No 10 jersey with my name on it, but it was one of the only shirts left.”

And for those who’ll no doubt question what all the fuss is about, that the 10 is only a number, well, that’s now the point…

Serie A’s present No 10s: Giacomo Bonaventura (Atalanta), Alberto Gilardino (Bologna), Francesco Lodi (Catania), Luciano (Chievo), Alberto Aquilani (Fiorentina), Alexander Merkel (Genoa), Wesley Sneijder (Inter), Mauro Zarate (Lazio), Kevin-Prince Boateng (Milan), Fabrizio Miccoli (Palermo), Jaime Valdes (Parma), Mervan Celik (Pescara), Francesco Totti (Roma), Maxi Lopez (Sampdoria), Gaetano D’Agostino (Siena), Alessandro Sgrigna (Torino), Antonio Di Natale (Udinese).
 
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4 of those players deserve the #10 IMO

Totti, Sneijder, Di Natale and Miccoli
 

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if based on importance to squad, many other players deserve the shirt.
 

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