Gennaro Gattuso Thread

When is the first clash between Gattuso and Zamparini?

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Can't wait to read it. Gattuso deserves our respect and support.
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All of you deserve to read it already because of my build-up. Fuck publishing.
 
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How much do you know about Gennaro Gattuso?

He's a footballer - obviously if you're reading this you know that much; he's a World Cup winner - if you weren'tborn on the 21-st century you probably know this; he's a two time Champions League winner - you may have caught his heroics on multiple Tuesday or Wednesday nights in the 21st century; he's a patriotic Italian - you may have caught how he sings his anthem . But what kind of a player is he? Everybody knows he's passionate, many would say he's tough but fair, meanwhile a lot of people would suggest that he's a dirty player like Materazzi always looking for trouble with the opposition, getting carded every match for fouling like say Marco Tardelli. You watched him on Tuesday night and you saw proof how he was going over the line and starting trouble all over the pitch, or did you?

Graeme Souness named him 'a dog at best'. Something can't be as close to the truth as well as far away from it. Rino is a dog, a pitbull who hunts down the opposition, because he acts like a dog but not in the bad sense of the word rather than the good. He grew up in a dog-eat-dog world of Calabria. People from society classes like where he's from often haven't learned a lot of manners. They learn how to behave in this world with their conscious. The first rule you learn not to get yourself in trouble is not to start trouble. The second rule is if someone starts trouble with you - make sure he never wants to start trouble with you again. That is exactly how Ringhio carries himself on the pitch.

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Barking dog doesn't bite.

Rino is very emotional and vocal but his actions are mostly towards the referee and strictly talk. When going gets rough, he gets rough. Well to be honest he's pretty rough from the start but that doesn't include the 'trying to start trouble and foul opposition' reputation that is often given to him. He always (as always as a human and a footballer can) tries to get the ball. That's why he is in so high regard as a defensive midfielder. Steven Gerrard even referred to him 'as scary as a kitten' and I believe the Liverpool captain is right though there's a literary exaggeration. But when the opposition starts to put in harsh fouls, too much hands or whatever else he will respond. Even if you don't do it directly to him rather than his teammates - he will respond, because the dog always looks out for his keeper.

Now you comfortably tell me he went into a mad dog stage on Tuesday. Let's try to
understand the game through his point of view?

Starting with what happened to his keeper on Tuesday? One of his best friends in the team, Christian Abbiati, was escorted from the pitch with neck splint (pitbulls hate neck splints). You and me saw from television that the challenge which resulted the injury was nothing special - it happens all the time, in fact Crouch accidentally had caught Abbiati's face even before that. No biggie. But Rino might have not seen it, even if he did it's hard to judge on the pitch just as the real villain on the night, Mathieu Flamini, was unaware how rough his challenge was asking the reporters if it 'was really that bad'.

Minor stuff like Pienaar handling Gattuso also happened in the first half. This is everyday stuff in football - handling opponent, few harsh fouls and few elbows will be part of every game. To someone like Gattuso they will start to set the tone. Especially if he sees his keeper taken out on a stretcher and his striker getting fouled near the area and getting elbowed inside the area while not receiving any calls from the referee. Meanwhile we all saw how Gattuso was captaining a ship that just wasn't in the moment - Milan was tedious, slow and unmotivated
and beginning to look frustrated.

The breaking point came with Flamini's tackle on Corluka. The referee couldn't red card Flamini(who's nickname is rightfully Mad Dog) since he felt a dept from the Ibra situation. Flamini didn't know how harsh was the challenge and tried to spark his teammates who responded by distastefully mobbing an injured player since he was on the way of their momentum. This episode sent the two sides into full out war. There was no 'let's get this done as professionally as we can and let the best team win'. Ringhio(Gattuso nickname that means growl in Italian) had his teeth out and was ready to bite.
 
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Graham Poll about Peter Crouch 'He's a real pain and he's getting away with too much.'

It's evident that Milan got a little rebuke from their coach at half-time and possibly their captain. As Zlatan describes Gattuso "If I'm relaxing I know that Rino will be behind me giving me the motivation and adrenaline I need. When Rino doesn't play, the dressing room is silent and nobody talks. But when Rino is there, he talks to everyone and gives everyone the motivation they need. He arrives with an incredible determination. On the field he's an animal, without him we cannot do it." So they came out with a new attitude and a little different game plan. Milan came out for a win and started to penetrate Tottenham's area. Gattuso was comfortably sitting on the backseat dealing with Tottenham counters. Since the pressure was pretty big the Londoners tried to find their tall forward with clearances and he had to face off with Gattuso. The game was built very physical and so both players were as rough as they could meanwhile hands came into play as well. So the same elbow that sent Gattuso's teammate to the hospital found way to his face and it was time to bite. Crouch was not getting away from Rino at San Siro and he let Crouch know how he felt about the tall man's shenanigans by smacking him back and then shoving him when the Englishmen tried to tell what he thought about it.

Then Joe Jordan interfered to protect his team and since Crouch might not have enough
and character to take on raving Gattuso(70kg vs 76kg). He was having a go at Gattuso as he entered the pitch. I know you'll say it was only a yard in but he stepped over a crucial line. An unwelcomed guest entered the dog's yard. What do pitbulls do in this situation? They hunt down the trespasser and bite them even if they give an inch for teeth to reach. They protect their territory at all costs. It's not about if the guy is a senior, or an assistant-coach or a Milan legend(all of which are mildly laughable if you asked me) at that moment.

Gattuso won't give you an inch and that what makes him as a player. That's why Sir Alex Ferguson has admired him so much and should he have succeeded signing him on the summer of 2006. I'm confident the outcome of the AC Milan - Manchester United would have been different. Ferguson had to settle finding someone else meanwhile Rino held back everything you could throw at him. Did you notice United only won the first game after Gattuso had to limp off with an injury (Redknapp also seriously thought about going after him after he managed Rino in one charity match:"“Gattuso was fantastic in the dressing room and, because of being his ‘manager’ on that night against the Rest of the World, I gave it serious thought. But it never quite worked out.”)

What happened after the whistle was disgraceful. Rino immediatly acknowledged it and apologized. Meanwhile we can't rule out if it was uncalled for since we don't know what words Joe Jordan threw at him. Some might say since he apologized he realized his wrongdoings and I should judge him guilty as well but I don't. I know he felt guilty for loosing it and because he let down his teammates and maybe headbutting(hairbutting anyone?) but does he really regret hitting a guy that was in his face the whole night? Zidane still doesn't regret his action against Materazzi and it's not because Rino and Zizou are bad people rather than Zizou's background on the streets of Marseille Rino's upcoming in Calabria.

Media.

It's amusing to read how (English)media corresponds to the game. Part of them are using terms like 'assistant coach' for it to sound like general. A status you just don't touch. Meanwhile do people really think Joe Jordan is a well-mannered assistance to Harry Redknapp? Or is Football Weekly's comment about his job being mostly to wind up the opposition for 90 minutes closer to the truth?

They try to give him a status of Milan legend since he helped Milan out of Serie B forgetting he
was in the only team in Milan's history to be relegated for not getting enough points on the
pitch. Someone went as far as saying Jordan's career puts Rino into shame ... How is that even
remotely comparable to all the titles Rino has won for rossoneri and Italy? The wind-up merchant's place seems more compatible to me since what help do you give to a manager who's tactics are 'just run the fuck around'.

Other side of the media reminds Joe Jordan's glory days. Most of it is how he was the nastiest
prick of the game(no-one judging him like Rino) who ran around without his front teeth(allow me to point out that this might happen when you run your mouth too much, though I'm unaware his exact dental history). Somebody everyone should have been scared of. Forgetting that the (self)righteous will/shall not be afraid of anything. They glorify a man who helped Scotland to WC meanwhile forgetting the circumstances of how he did it. He handled in opposition the ball in the opporition area and somehow convinced the referee that instead of him it was the Wales player's hand and got a penalty for it. Dirty cheat. Speaking of it what has Crouch done in WC? He has scored a single goal and managed to do that only by pulling the opposition from hair. That's innovative but still a dirty cheat game. What has Rino done for his country? Oh, just won some golden trophy in Berlin. How? With performances that will be higlighted to anyone in defensive midfielder position for years. When you fall on ten man(Italy vs Australia) playing along with Rino Gattuso at his best is like 11 vs 11.

What do you say to a kid or a drunken friend who wrestles too much with your dog and ends up bitten? 'You were asking for it'. Maybe not Joe Jordan for that matter rather than the circumstances. The dog wasn't just mad, he was driven mad. His keeper got hurt, he was manhandled by Pienaar, he was almost stud-tackled by Palacios, he had Van Der Vaart in his ear with whatever we didn't hear but judging from Rino's gesture it was some bollocks, he was captaining a team that needed to show some grit, he had a hard-ass Scot jump into his face - did you say it was all him?

Everybody is calling Rino names. Names you wouldn't give to your dog. Because if you know the real character of the dog, it's not his fault. It's the owner or in this case the circumstances. I'm not trying to victimize Rino, because eventually he stepped over the line as well, but I'm trying to make you think. Next time you see Rino play look if he's stirring up everything or is it the other way around. Next time you see Joe Jordan on the sideline watch if he's advising Redknapp or just looking for an angle to provoke the opposition. Next time you see Peter Crouch go for a header watch where his hands are at - he's always(as always as a human or a footballer can be) climbing on the other guy and it isn't the ordinary fight for the ball in modern football rather than his characteristic move. And next time you hear Souness speak ask yourself how does his words cope with his actions on the pitch.
 
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Good dog.

Dogs like to play and wrestle as does Gattuso. He's your biggest friend. He's loyal and will stick with you through thick and thin. David Beckham describes him with these words '“Gattuso is the *biggest character I’ve ever played with. How you perceive him on the pitch is exactly how he is. Before coming to Milan I’d played against him a few times – and he’s definitely one of those guys who you just never want to face. He’s a player you always want on your team. He’s like Roy Keane used to be at United. He’s such a *character. And he’s not just like that for one or two days – he’s like it every day of every week. It’s characters like that who make a team.” Pets also make Becks laugh: “He is always at Milanello, and he never wastes an opportunity to joke around, especially with Pato, and player like him is fundamental in the dressing room. No one makes me laugh like he does.”

Becks also see him fair but irritating when he talks about his debut as England captain - a
match decided by Gattuso's goal: “He told me not to dive in the box because we weren’t in a swimming pool. We both remembered this incident. Rino is a player that you do not like much when he is your opponent, as he can be irritating. He is always on you, and doesn’t allow you to do much. I will always remember that match, not only because of Gattuso, but also because it was my first game as England captain.” Gattuso carried the weight of the captain as well and though some may wanted to see him stripped of vice-captaincy(Milan's first choice is Ambrosini at the moment) it's manager's decision who said following:"No, I never thought to take away the captaincy because he took responsibility. He made a mistake but his career shows what a player he is and what man he is. After the game he apologized to the team, to me, and teammates, also remember that he finished the game with 12 stitches in his knee: Rino deserves the armband."

I know Gattuso. I know him probably better than you. I watch him play every weekend and I can even recognize him from his running technique. My judgment on him is not based on some basic prejudice of Italian footballer or classical defensive midfielder who is expected to play dirty though it might be clouded with the colors I hold dear to my heart. I don't know every detail of his life but above everything I'm confident I know the most important thing - how he thinks. Simply because I think the same. He starts the game with a spark that is meant to light up his team while it can turn into an inferno. That's the only way players like him can be - they are on the edge all the time. As H. S. Thompson puts it "The edge, there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over" meaning you don't get Roy Keane's dragging captaincy without the occasional red card resulting offence. You don't get a Maradona without him going balloons once in a while. Gattuso once told Steve Nash 'if he doesn't play like a madman he's Serie C.'

Even if what he did was wrong I can't judge him since I've done the same. I've showed a coach who was in a place he shouldn't have been and I've physically assaulted someone who was too vocal about an unwarranted disqualification. I too regretted the hit because it was my friend and he wasn't really standing, but I don't regret that a bigmouth was confronted. And years later he also admitted he was way over the line. I want you to judge the action rather than the man and see if your judgement correlates with your own actions(hi Graeme Souness). Hopefully everyone involved will make their conclusions like in my case - he was the last guy I hit(about 10 years from now).

Maldini is my hero for being perfect - a man I can never be. Rino is a guy who is a fan himself. He is one of us - RINO UNO DI NOI.

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Thank you for investing your precious time time to read through, invest some more to think it through as well.

A video about Tuesday nightgame vs Tottenham(by Cristina):


Good video about what Rino is about(by Esoesgallo)
 
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I want it up in some blog. Currently working with hdcantona to get it up on Rossoneriblog.

Give your last minute fix and feedback. Those involved tell me how to credit you(Everybody at acmilan-online.com/forum Rino uno di Noi familly?)

Can we post Vimeo and Dailymotion here? I strongly recommend the videos.
 
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Unfortunately that is a fantastic blog.
 
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Fantastic and awesome masterpiece, Jasper, THANK YOU SO MUCH (and to who ever that also participate in this blog). Should post in somewhere else.
RINO UNO DI NOI
 
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Jasper said:
YAS! Thanks. Spread the link when we have it published. :D
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You bet! :thumbsup:

Worth getting published on some good blogging site.
Nice read Jasper. Good job. :)
 
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Jasper, you have my utmost respect as a man and a Milanisti.
 
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Jasper said:
I want it up in some blog. Currently working with hdcantona to get it up on Rossoneriblog.

Give your last minute fix and feedback. Those involved tell me how to credit you(Everybody at acmilan-online.com/forum Rino uno di Noi familly?)

Can we post Vimeo and Dailymotion here? I strongly recommend the videos.
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Nice work there Jasp, I think publishing it at Rossoneriblog would be suitable as it's also pretty well known and Milan related as well.
 
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It wouldn't hurt publishing it on some English sites as well. Does any of our English Milan fans have any ideas?
 
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:star::star::star:

Open up your own blog and write some more pieces, we'll be your #1 fans. :proud:
 
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MilanMB said:
It wouldn't hurt publishing it on some English sites as well. Does any of our English Milan fans have any ideas?
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I don't think is possible to publish the same material at two different sites in the same time especially on the Internet. Most sites are usually looking for a unique material (for article) unless it's some hard news

Have to agree with the idea of publishing it at an own blog
 
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Dwa Milan said:
I don't think is possible to publish the same material at two different sites in the same time especially on the Internet. Most sites are usually looking for a unique material (for article) unless it's some hard news

Have to agree with the idea of publishing it at an own blog
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Ohh, I see. Good point.
 
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Cristina said:
:star::star::star:

Open up your own blog and write some more pieces, we'll be your #1 fans. :proud:
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I couldn't do it without you. I'm thinking of my own blog but so if anyone has webmaster skills then do it. Maybe we can get a blog to acmilan-online? With people from here writing?

I can't write all the time + these things take time. It took me a week with this one and I wouldn't be surprised if it been about 20h or so.

I already have a next idea and want Cristina's video skills.
 
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When we get it published then we just need to get to social media to get somke attention on it. The best case would be if someone on like the Football Italia guys would link it to his followers on facebook or twitter. We'll see. Doesn't matter. What matters is what had to be said is now done :)
 
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Jasper said:
I couldn't do it without you. I'm thinking of my own blog but so if anyone has webmaster skills then do it. Maybe we can get a blog to acmilan-online? With people from here writing?

I can't write all the time + these things take time. It took me a week with this one and I wouldn't be surprised if it been about 20h or so.

I already have a next idea and want Cristina's video skills.
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What?
 
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Jasper my man that is awesome! i was thinking it was article by goal.com or sth but than i thought this is much better than english propaganda, i felt like true milanista wrote it and i was right. gattuso=milan :thumbsup:
 
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I would definitely read your blog Jasper :star:

If we all did one I'd be happy to contribute too :D Blogger is pretty easy to use I believe.
 
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Milan midfielder Gennaro Gattuso admits he “made a really bad impression” in his Joe Jordan. “I’m a nice guy, but not stupid.”

The veteran lost his cool after the final whistle of the 1-0 Champions League defeat to Tottenham and has been handed a five-match UEFA ban for going head-to-head with the assistant manager.


“I made a really bad impression, but respect is important for me,” Gattuso told Le Iene television programme.


“They gave me a five-match ban... they may as well have put me in prison for a month! I wanted to be at the second leg in London, but was advised not to go. There’s 37,000 of them in that stadium, I’d have returned with a swollen face from 37,000 slaps.”


The interviewer pointed out that notoriously fiery teammate Zlatan Ibrahimovic did not intervene when the scuffle broke out.


“Thank goodness, otherwise we’d still be there! Alexandre Pato went to the locker room. He was probably hiding in the bathroom!


“It’s lucky Antonio Cassano was ineligible for the Champions League. I was meant to be his tutor on how to behave at Milan and he said: ‘What a great example you set for me!’”


Jordan has denied Gattuso’s claims he called him a “f***ing Italian b***ard,” but the midfielder revealed more details of what led up to the row.


“Jordan was shouting and saying “This isn’t a pool,” referring to Thiago Silva’s foul. My motto is ‘respect those who show you respect.’ I’m a nice guy, but I’m not stupid.


“In these years of my career I have never hurt anyone, so when I went over to Jordan after the game and he took off his glasses as the sign of a challenge, shouting ‘f***, f***.’”


There was also an alleged brawl in the tunnel between Gattuso and Sebastien Bassong, with Ibrahimovic acting as peacemaker to tear them apart.


“Then Bassong got involved and said ‘You and me.’ So I said it back to him. We got together in the players’ tunnel, had a full match with first and second half. Bassong saw I was little and assumed I was small fry.”
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superb man!
 
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So Jordon didn't say "fucking Italian bastard then?" Not sure I get the pool comment...
 
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And who are you gonna believe : Gatu or some retards of the internet ?
He said just that & he fuckin crossed the fuckin line & Gatu is the one who stood in his way.
Hi hip , hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....
 
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Jasper, I hope you don't mind, but I wish to publish it on FB as a note.

The interviewer pointed out that notoriously fiery teammate Zlatan Ibrahimovic did not intervene when the scuffle broke out.


“Thank goodness, otherwise we’d still be there! Alexandre Pato went to the locker room. He was probably hiding in the bathroom!


“It’s lucky Antonio Cassano was ineligible for the Champions League. I was meant to be his tutor on how to behave at Milan and he said: ‘What a great example you set for me!’”
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Hahahaha. Amazing!
 
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