I was hoping that you'd impute some nonexistent Serie A bias to me....the same guy who got everyone's panties in a bunch when he said that Gattuso was overrated and that Keane/Vieria>>>>Gattuso. Then there was the reaction to my views on P!rlo
See, I'm fair. I'll acknowledge great players from all leagues. Pirlo is/was an immense player. I remember telling you Pirlo would do better in a team with better movement and no statues ahead of him. Most disagreed. He went to Juve and proved me right
That should be no surprise though
Vieira/Keane was quite clearly superior to Gattuso. Gattuso was a much more limited player. Keane for eg had his defensive work and was also far, far better creatively (Keane was actually the more creative midfielder with 3 of his 4 main partners). Vieira obviously was too.
Though I don't ever remember saying Gattuso was overrated. In fact if you remember I argued with the fools that argued with me when I claimed Gattuso was Milan's star player the year they KO'd United. My favorite Milan player, Beckham aside. But then outside of this forum I've never seen anyone really praise him to the moon. I can't remember what people on here thought of him.
I'm the same guy that said that Ronaldinho would destroy even a prime Maldini.....but somehow I consider SerieA players gods
Destroy?
Ronaldinho could have destroyed anyone on his day. That much is obvious. Didn't he rape Nesta one time?
Rio came to United in 2002 and I believe got the ass raping of his life when
Ronaldo
scored three halftime goals against him.
Indeed he did. Rio did take time to adapt to United though. Rio wasn't really great in his first year, mind. Got a lot of stick.
If you consider the players Nesta's been up against: ZZ, R9, Totti, Batistuta, Shevchenko, Vieri, Ibrahimovic, ADP(in his prime too), Adriano, Ivan Zamorano, Baggio I'd have to say that Nesta has had fiercer competition....btw,
Because they were great players in the years Serie A was at it's best, right? People rely far too much on nostalgia. Why were the greats of one period all so much better than the greats of another? It's interesting when you look at people's responses on here - they'll go crazy about those on top when Italy and Spain were dominating, yet in comparison dismiss the period when the EPL was dominating. I think this point is more appropriate when talking about defenders though - Campbell, Rio, Vidic, Terry, Calvalho, King - world class defenders who would have stood out in any league at any time.
Torres/Shearer/Eto'o/Henry/Owen and co were all incredible themselves. I should have added Suarez to my list as well, btw. 12/13, on one leg Rio made Suarez his bitch.
I get a lot of it is because of childhood nostalgia, but still...
Incidentally I never said Rio > Nesta but I digress. Well no actually I did say in 07/08 Rio > all.
when did Rio face/rape iBra?
08/09 Champions League. A crippled Rio, no less. Someone mentioned the sign of a genuine great player is someone who can play to a high level throughout injuries - Rio couldn't train and could hardly walk for days after matches for several years, starting in 08/09.
And didn't Drogba own the shit out of Rio as well
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I don't think Drogba ever had a good game vs United. Scored a couple - FA Cup game, an offside goal to win the league, once in the CL...but I could easily say Rooney destroys Liverpool because he's scored quite a few goals against them, when in reality Rooney has never, ever played well against Liverpool. Not once.
Drogba never scared United like Torres did for about 18 months, for eg.
