Sandro Tonali Thread

Youth · Oct 24, 2020

Goodfella said:
10m loan fee.
An additional 15m-25m if he's purchased.
2m net salary(more than Bennacer's, almost the same as Kessie's).

That's a large investment.

The club picked him instead of Bakayoko, or a DM who's proven in a double pivot system.

They picked an expensive youngster as backup to the young starters.

They picked a player who looks incompatible with Bennacer as a midfield duo.

Tonali might be and hopefully is a good investment in the long run, but I think it's safe to say he isn't the midfield addition we needed this season.

It is just too early to say that he looks incompatible with Bennacer.

Expensive young players as backup young starters is not false I think. The problem is now that he has not show the form Milan expect from him.

Having 3 quality young midfielder does not break any standard of football, it would be great for the club.

milanista_ · Oct 24, 2020

He needs to be faster with the ball and act quicker in his head, get a stronger body to be able to protect the ball better, improve his passing game, improve his position on the field. He is so slow and need to learn how to position himself better on the field. He is so far away from being a reliable player at the moment.

Nestafan · Oct 24, 2020

The likes of Kessie and Hakan were mainly shit or average in their first couple of years with us. Now they are two of our most important players.

I wouldn't toss him aside after 2 or 3 starts.

fray · Oct 24, 2020

My issue with him for now is that he's too careless on the ball. Also annoying to see his lack of tenacity in the defensive phase. There's a lot that needs to be worked on.

It's a bit premature to write him off after 5-6 games. Both Bakayoko and Bennacer also had a slow start, before they adopted to the system and formed excellent partnerships with Kessie. By time and with more minutes he accumulates, I think we'll see a pretty good midfielder in Tonali.

If his proposed move to Inter went through and he played like this under Conte, he'd throw him under the bus at first opportunity. Fortunately, he has padre Pioli to sort him out and fix his lethargic shortcomings.

Goodfella · Oct 24, 2020

Youth said:
It is just too early to say that he looks incompatible with Bennacer.

No, it would be too early to say he is incompatible with Bennacer as a midfield duo, but not too early to say what it looks like since it goes without saying that it's a conjecture.

Youth said:
Having 3 quality young midfielder does not break any standard of football, it would be great for the club.

There are certainly advantages to having young backups.
It would be great to already have a replacement lined up in case a release clause is activated or someone refuses to renew on reasonable terms.

However if the young backup is not ready, then he's not backup material.

VultureSheva · Oct 24, 2020

Goodfella said:
10m loan fee.
An additional 15m-25m if he's purchased.
2m net salary(more than Bennacer's, almost the same as Kessie's).

That's a large investment.

The club picked him instead of Bakayoko, or a DM who's proven in a double pivot system.

They picked an expensive youngster as backup to the young starters.

They picked a player who looks incompatible with Bennacer as a midfield duo.

Tonali might be and hopefully is a good investment in the long run, but I think it's safe to say he isn't the midfield addition we needed this season.

Bakayoko-Anguissa as DM, Roca-Koopmeiners for regista, they costed less than him and could have given something better.

I knew Tonali was only a prospect.

VultureSheva · Oct 29, 2020

His passing is fast, if he becomes more precise (this is a problem for now) he’ll become a fine regista.

Charbel · Nov 1, 2020

Isn’t he supposed to be a good free-kick taker ?

Benz_1803 · Nov 1, 2020

Charbel said:
Isn?t he supposed to be a good free-kick taker ?

Zlatan should give the youngsters a chance first.

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Charbel · Nov 1, 2020

Benz_1803 said:
Zlatan should give the youngsters a chance first.

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My question isnt criticism. Just wondering why we are not seeing him take any free-kicks ( if there is another reason than the presence of Hakan and Ibra )

Ash · Nov 1, 2020

Charbel said:
My question isnt criticism. Just wondering why we are not seeing him take any free-kicks ( if there is another reason than the presence of Hakan and Ibra )

Yep its slightly annoying that Ibra wants to take the FKs. He even wants to take them when Hakan is on the pitch.

I am ok with him taking PKs even though I think Kessie is clearly our best PK taker but he should leave the FKs to Hakan and Tonali.

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Ronin · Nov 1, 2020

Ash said:
Yep its slightly annoying that Ibra wants to take the FKs. He even wants to take them when Hakan is on the pitch.

I am ok with him taking PKs even though I think Kessie is clearly our best PK taker but he should leave the FKs to Hakan and Tonali.

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Yeah, Ibra is great but he has to accept that he's 39 and some aspects of his game have declined. Shot power and accuracy are not what they used to be...

Goodfella · Nov 6, 2020

SuperP · Nov 7, 2020

He can't play with Kessie, he did decent with Bennacer.

Fabio · Nov 7, 2020

Too green to help us right now, renato sanches ate him alive

CanUNoTouch · Nov 7, 2020

Levels, Tonali needs to find his. Has to learn how to play quicker, especially against non Italian teams. I guess the transition from playing in a 3 to a 2 is taking him some time to get use to also. The good thing is, he's still only 20.5

Nestafan · Nov 7, 2020

Fabio said:
Too green to help us right now, renato sanches ate him alive

To be fair the guy dominated Kessie too who has been in fantastic form.

I liked Tonali's set pieces. Pity one of our players couldn't get a significant head on any of them.

Thenebra · Nov 7, 2020

Play faster waaay faster...

Qaas · Nov 7, 2020

SuperP said:
He can't play with Kessie, he did decent with Bennacer.

This

Goodfella · Nov 7, 2020

CanUNoTouch said:
Levels, Tonali needs to find his. Has to learn how to play quicker, especially against non Italian teams. I guess the transition from playing in a 3 to a 2 is taking him some time to get use to also. The good thing is, he's still only 20.5

His passing is not the issue. At least not against Lille. It was actually one of his better performances in that aspect. It wasn't the usual overambitious, difficult passes that are intercepted half the time.

The main problem is that he's too easy to get past. He falls for simple tricks, players run around him on the ground and beat him with ease in the air.

We can't afford to field him against decent teams. The midfielders need to be extra-ordinary ball winners to sustain this ultra-attacking system. He's far from it at the moment.

Sigh.........

Goodfella · Nov 7, 2020

SuperP said:
He can't play with Kessie, he did decent with Bennacer.

He has better passing combinations with Bennacer, but he's too weak defensively regardless of partner.

Qaas · Nov 7, 2020

Bennacer would have been the one facing and neutralizing renato sanchez
Tonallis best match was with bennacer.
Kessies best matches are with bennacer.

Goodfella · Nov 8, 2020

Qaas said:
Bennacer would have been the one facing and neutralizing renato sanchez
Tonallis best match was with bennacer.
Kessies best matches are with bennacer.

We need as many great ball winners as possible to minimize the risks of this risky approach.

Can't afford to have someone like Tonali as one of the pivots against strong European sides who know how to deal with 4-2-3-1 high press.

Youth · Nov 8, 2020

I am convinced we would still win the game if we play Kessie+Tonali in the midfield. We just had our worst performance. Even with Krunic and Castillejo as wings as long as all players are fit (got enough rest), the chance is still there. Not to mention if we play our best players upfront.

Tonalli is not the weakest part in that game. Our play especially our attacking performance was the first to blame.

Panache · Nov 10, 2020

Goodfella said:
We need as many great ball winners as possible to minimize the risks of this risky approach.

Can't afford to have someone like Tonali as one of the pivots against strong European sides who know how to deal with 4-2-3-1 high press.

Exactly. Send 30 million + Tonali + Krunic to Lille and sign Renato Sanches and Boubakary Soumare. Instant upgrade!!!1

vB9 · Nov 10, 2020

There is no art in you ppl... no style... only big brutes can play yr envisioned version of the game.

I'm a Romario person... and we're a Romario club!

Goodfella · Nov 11, 2020

Panache said:
Exactly. Send 30 million + Tonali + Krunic to Lille and sign Renato Sanches and Boubakary Soumare. Instant upgrade!!!1

Renato is not a great ball winner either.
His best quality is dribbling.

An unreliable version of Bennacer.

Whoever pays 50m+ for him is making a big mistake.

ChinaMilan · Nov 12, 2020

Panache said:
Exactly. Send 30 million + Tonali + Krunic to Lille and sign Renato Sanches and Boubakary Soumare. Instant upgrade!!!1

We dont own tonali to send him anywhere, if you want him you have to pay another 25 m for that fraud.

Again this guy was the worst man of the match in italy against farmers and playing just 45, i dont get how can someone be that bad even though playing with a team winning 4 - 0 in a friendly.

Mario · Nov 15, 2020

people need to remember the buy out is set at 15m and not 25m

we already paid 10m.

ChinaMilan · Nov 17, 2020

Mario said:
people need to remember the buy out is set at 15m and not 25m

we already paid 10m.

+ 10 bonuses.

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