Lucas Paquetá Thread

VooDooDoll

))<>((
Joined
Jun 9, 2015
Messages
10,396
Reaction score
487
Location
Moon
You seem as lost as Paqueta on the pitch.

no reason to go on personal level
i presented my opinion about paq many times in context of leonardo 'great sd'

my point is bona is shit and is getting at least 45 minutes each game
where paq getting much less and you blame him on results of whole team where piatek and suso were garbage and hakan was almost as bad as they (attacking 3 had 7 goals and 3 assists in 19 games?).
 

Casualista

Monsieur
Joined
Jul 26, 2010
Messages
19,498
Reaction score
7,410
Good job Giampaolo.

He's definitely behaving less like a Brazilian and more like a fat lazy Italian.

Transformation complete.
 

Goodfella

Milan Legend
Joined
Jan 20, 2011
Messages
14,796
Reaction score
1,470
It's what I resort to when your reply is a quote from me as if you're making a great point.

Paqueta: 740 mins. 0 goals, 0 assists, defensive liability.

Bona: 744 mins. 2 goals. Another 135 minutes in Coppa, 1 one more goal. Doesn't create as many counterattack opportunities for the opponents.


Paq would've probably had more than 740 mins if he hadn't asked Pioli not to call him up for the Brescia game.
 

VooDooDoll

))<>((
Joined
Jun 9, 2015
Messages
10,396
Reaction score
487
Location
Moon
but do you watch how bona performs??
did you watch today game for example??
 

Curupira

Milan Legend
Joined
Aug 2, 2010
Messages
38,236
Reaction score
64,238
Had several of good passes but then started fading with rest of the team
 

Goodfella

Milan Legend
Joined
Jan 20, 2011
Messages
14,796
Reaction score
1,470
but do you watch how bona performs??
did you watch today game for example??

Bona leaves a lot to be desired. His selfishness and lack of athleticism bothered me even during his "prime". But he's a better choice for LM than Paqueta.


If anything, Paqueta should be the RM in this formation. He seems more natural playing on that side of the pitch.
However he's no match for Samu.
 

Ronin

Milansochist
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Messages
13,041
Reaction score
2,480
Fav. Players
Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Rui Costa, Albertini, Serginho, Seedorf, Redondo, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho
Paqueta did well on left side last year under Rino. But I agree, now Bona is a better option (although not really a good one).
 

VooDooDoll

))<>((
Joined
Jun 9, 2015
Messages
10,396
Reaction score
487
Location
Moon
Bona leaves a lot to be desired. His selfishness and lack of athleticism bothered me even during his "prime". But he's a better choice for LM than Paqueta.


If anything, Paqueta should be the RM in this formation. He seems more natural playing on that side of the pitch.
However he's no match for Samu.

bona work rate is bad, lacks vision, pass and overall technique
he is not midfielder in that case and im not sure if even footballer after last injury (can he win 1on1 if he goes wide this days?)
only good thing he does in running into the box when players are crossing.
 

Ronin

Milansochist
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Messages
13,041
Reaction score
2,480
Fav. Players
Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Rui Costa, Albertini, Serginho, Seedorf, Redondo, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho
bona work rate is bad, lacks vision, pass and overall technique
he is not midfielder in that case and im not sure if even footballer after last injury (can he win 1on1 if he goes wide this days?)
only good thing he does in running into the box when players are crossing.

Last season:
Paq - 851 min - 1 G 1 A
Jack - 644 min - 3 G 1 A

This season he's still ahead. Both are shit tho
 

Savo

Mike Danton.. Deadly Prey
Joined
Jul 15, 2007
Messages
4,275
Reaction score
10
Fav. Players
Kaka, Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Pirlo, Inzaghi, Ambrosini, Sheva, Seedorf, Silva, Totti
Paq needs to be AM or in a 3-man mid, this current formation is awful for his characteristics.

I still think that when we don't have our full starting lineup we should roll with a 3-4-1-2
 

Birsaforever

I hate Pink Floyd
Joined
Apr 3, 2014
Messages
5,749
Reaction score
736
Paq will need time to get some clue of how to play football, it will probably take less for Bonaventura to regain form
 

Australiano1980

#RiseTheBorders
Joined
Aug 17, 2009
Messages
8,736
Reaction score
634
Location
BRAZIL, PR
Fav. Players
Van Basten, Baresi, Savicevic, Gullit, Maldini, Romario, Zidane, Suker, Litmanen, Redondo, Rivaldo
Italy turned Paquetá into nothing.
 

brk

Milan Legend
Joined
Aug 24, 2015
Messages
22,870
Reaction score
65,793
I think Rangnick can revive Paqueta, rotating with Castillejo at RM, or possibly behind a lone striker if we need to play a 4231. He has the energy and defensive qualities, just needs the confidence. Playing an instant transition style could suit him really well and help him make use of that 'instinct' the Italians kept trying to beat out of him.
 

Ronin

Milansochist
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Messages
13,041
Reaction score
2,480
Fav. Players
Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Rui Costa, Albertini, Serginho, Seedorf, Redondo, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho
His first 6 months with us were quite good, so I believe he can be useful, but the coach should properly assess what is his most suited position and keep him there. A young player like him needs some consistency in order to develop properly.

Also, someone (Zlatan) needs to slap him wherever he slows the play with his trademark move (hold and protect the ball).
 

nanook

Starting Eleven
Joined
Jul 23, 2012
Messages
556
Reaction score
1,606
BPFRWMx.gif


gPcXnoq.gif
 

Goodfella

Milan Legend
Joined
Jan 20, 2011
Messages
14,796
Reaction score
1,470
He received a lot of praise for his performance, but it was very similar to his previous starts when Pioli took over from Giampaolo.
Lots of dribbling, single most influential Milan player in our attack, lots of attempts......zero goals, zero assists.

10 attempts against SPAL.
33 attempts in 947 mins this season in Serie A.
0 goals.


It's bad enough to have one attacker-midfielder that needs 50 attempts to score once(Hakan). But two?
Add to that no CB or midfielder or striker that are good at scoring from headers. And shitty set-piece takers.
No wonder even Verona and Parma have scored more than us.
 

jawz10

Milinkovic Savage
Joined
Jul 29, 2011
Messages
2,250
Reaction score
3,520
He received a lot of praise for his performance, but it was very similar to his previous starts when Pioli took over from Giampaolo.
Lots of dribbling, single most influential Milan player in our attack, lots of attempts......zero goals, zero assists.

10 attempts against SPAL.
33 attempts in 947 mins this season in Serie A.
0 goals.


It's bad enough to have one attacker-midfielder that needs 50 attempts to score once(Hakan). But two?
Im not convinced he’s an attacking midfielder. An attacking mid for me is generally a quick thinker, has great vision, and/or has an eye for goal or at least a threat. Paqy is purely instinctive, the opposite of cerebral. So the more time he has to think about what to do next the better the chance he?ll make the wrong choice. Conversely, where he shines is in those quick moments of genius: a sombrero, a panna, a backheel that fools two opponents. Soley in terms of role he reminds me of Ginny Winjaldum or Blaise Matuidi, but Brazilian. Lots of running, not shy to tackle, strong in possession, arrives in the box unexpectedly... I think he has the potential to be a world class box-to-box mezzala. His best games are when he?s playing on the counter and he?s not the player responsible for creating chances. He isn?t a #10 for sure, but he?s not only a central midfidler either... he?s something like an 8.5.
 

Goodfella

Milan Legend
Joined
Jan 20, 2011
Messages
14,796
Reaction score
1,470
Im not convinced he’s an attacking midfielder. An attacking mid for me is generally a quick thinker, has great vision, and/or has an eye for goal or at least a threat. Paqy is purely instinctive, the opposite of cerebral. So the more time he has to think about what to do next the better the chance he?ll make the wrong choice. Conversely, where he shines is in those quick moments of genius: a sombrero, a panna, a backheel that fools two opponents. Soley in terms of role he reminds me of Ginny Winjaldum or Blaise Matuidi, but Brazilian. Lots of running, not shy to tackle, strong in possession, arrives in the box unexpectedly... I think he has the potential to be a world class box-to-box mezzala. His best games are when he?s playing on the counter and he?s not the player responsible for creating chances. He isn?t a #10 for sure, but he?s not only a central midfidler either... he?s something like an 8.5.

I don't think he has convinced in any role on this level.
Wijnaldum and Matuidi play at a very high tempo, which is fundamental for B2B midfielders these days. More running, less dwelling on the ball. His technique is superior, but it seems to be almost a curse because imo he's trying an overambitious game which is hard to sustain mentally and physically. It has also not translated into goals or assists or a better defensive job than from a conventional B2B mid.

I'm fine with his tendencies if he just...starts...scoring.

The thing is, his shooting technique seems fine. He's also getting most of his attempts on target, or blocked. He's not making embarrassing attempts like Bennacer.
He's also been a bit unlucky, because some of them were prevented by great saves from the keeper. I think it's mostly his decision-making letting him down even in this aspect.
He's going for spectacular volleys or slow finesse shots with his weaker foot, when he should just blast it in or maybe go for a pass instead.
 

Australiano1980

#RiseTheBorders
Joined
Aug 17, 2009
Messages
8,736
Reaction score
634
Location
BRAZIL, PR
Fav. Players
Van Basten, Baresi, Savicevic, Gullit, Maldini, Romario, Zidane, Suker, Litmanen, Redondo, Rivaldo
I hope Paqueta to stay. He is waaay more player than Szobozlai for example.
 

Qaas

Vi må tage det som det kommer
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
38,777
Reaction score
69,621
Location
Danmark
Fav. Players
KAKA, Maldini, Nesta, Dida, Inzaghi, Sheva, TSilva, R9, Raul, Casillas, Schmeichel, Messi, Zlatan

Pingu

American Calcio Milan
Stream Guru
Joined
Aug 23, 2017
Messages
35,479
Reaction score
38,078
Based on what?

Based on the location of the posted who said Paqueta is better. :D

He has huge upside but whether he can reach that potential is something else.
 

ForzaACM

Milan Veteran
Joined
Jul 12, 2014
Messages
2,490
Reaction score
64
Fav. Players
Kaka Zidane R9 Robben Nesta Henry Suarez Messi Maldini Rivaldo Iniesta Dinho Sheva Pippo
Looks lost and without confidence.

Really depressing stuff. At this rate we'll be lucky to get 20m for him.
 

sheva

suso's dog
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
6,596
Reaction score
16,087
Location
Jerusalem
With his performance I'm starting to believe that he was 'injured' due to being sad a while back
 
Top