JUANES said:...i prefer becks a hundred times over pirlo because becks still has passion.
Sure ... Becks' new American market probably will balance the books, but it all seems rather tedious and hence, unnecessary to me. Do we really need Sergio Ramos THAT BAD? Is Becks the best possible solution to our current problems? Why buy Becks to find a means to rejuvenate when the actual act of buying him suggests otherwise? Why not just buy young promising talents + work on the magic that groomed legends such as Paolo, Billy and Baresi? Is there such a complete lack of talent out there that only Ramos is worth going through all this trouble?zZ[-_-]Zz said:Well, if the club has intentions to buy a quality defender for next season (for example), Beckham's marketability will definitely help in that aspect, albeit indirectly. He did make about €600m in four years for Real Madrid, the money which they used to buy a host of players and attempted to get C.Ronaldo and Kaka with.
I have no idea what Berlusconi is up to, but maybe Sergio Ramos is good friends with Beckham? They did after all play together on the right flank of Real Madrid.
If Beckham's arrival does make Milan a minimum of €50m, it can be put to good use for our own benefit of rejuvenation. That ultimately is the target, Beckham merely a resource to finance that.
Well I haven't watched him at all in the MLS. Just saw a few clips of his first goal + some assists. Thats about it. I think the fact that he has played at such high levels + now has to make do with the MLS is a contributing factor. But you still cannot turn a blind eye to that period when his career seemed to be done and dusted, yet he someone managed to claw back into Madrid's starting XI + play a crucial role in winning La Liga.Diavolo_7 said:If you've seen him play for LA, you'd see that he couldn't be more disinterested. Not playing hard for the team that is paying him A LOT more than any other player in his respective league makes it hard for me to commend him for his commitment and ethics.
I totally agree , but.....crazy4milan said:I'm at a not very appropiate place to discuss these, but I also don't have anything better to do.
Needless to say I'm not Milan's biggest believer right now. We're just mediatizing ourselves, we're doing nothing more than that, and that's sad, the team I love used to be self proclaiming, but they weren't after mediatic stars. Ok, it's just for 4 months, but still...if it only was to let him training in here, but sadly that's not the case.
Because Beckham is a hard-worker. What's not to understand?Ashish said:^^ i cant understand you, you berate pirlo who is slow these days but you are happy with ultra slow turtle mr. posh
To compete in Serie A, Milan have to prove our finances are not in the red. As far as I know, we are in the red, and the credit crunch might just make things worse (add the fact we don't have the finances generated from participating in the Champions League), hell, we might not be eligible for Serie A next season (highly unlikely, but still a possibility).madtherchot said:Sure ... Becks' new American market probably will balance the books, but it all seems rather tedious and hence, unnecessary to me. Do we really need Sergio Ramos THAT BAD? Is Becks the best possible solution to our current problems? Why buy Becks to find a means to rejuvenate when the actual act of buying him suggests otherwise? Why not just buy young promising talents + work on the magic that groomed legends such as Paolo, Billy and Baresi? Is there such a complete lack of talent out there that only Ramos is worth going through all this trouble?
And when you look at what our squad lacks at the moment, you have to say, more than a right winger, we lack an abundance of pace. Becks doesn't offer this, and lets not forget ... we still have a season ongoing where we're in the running for two major Cups. Rather than acquire Becks + devise a master plan for the future, we could just get a quick, tricky winger, or a defender or wignback ... someone who would give us more options + perhaps the extra surge needed to win the Scudetto.
What I'm saying is that we should focus on building on what we have ... and Becks isn't going to add more to our game.
sorryKalac#16 said:Because Beckham is a hard-worker. What's not to understand?
Fair enough. Will keep track on what will be happening. As long as his and Sheva's deals aren't made permanent, and Ronaldo doesn't roll back into town, it will be bearable, I guess. Not to mention improved female attendances, ladies? Berlu might indeed be evolving with current trends as you suggest.zZ[-_-]Zz said:To compete in Serie A, Milan have to prove our finances are not in the red. As far as I know, we are in the red, and the credit crunch might just make things worse (add the fact we don't have the finances generated from participating in the Champions League), hell, we might not be eligible for Serie A next season (highly unlikely, but still a possibility).
That to me seems a possible reason why we are acquiring his services. We are getting him for marketing purposes only, not to play him, have him assist in grooming youngsters etc. So the lack of pace, need for a speedy winger etc are not the question for now. It's not even about Sergio Ramos, but if he is Berlusconi's new dream toy, then he will try all means to get him, but that's another story for another time.
The real question is how much money will Brand Beckham make for Milan in his half season stay that would go on to help us beat the credit crunch, finance our stay in Serie A, finance our rejuvenation next season. These in turn could very well help us contest the Champions League for next season.
Berlusconi is a master at politics, what happening on the surface is just a show for the gullible public, but what happening behind it is the key. You should know very well how some people are just too stupid to understand things and only take things at face value.
Berlusconi has made Milan powerful, and he isn't about to stop. Sure, I don't agree with everything he does, but I trust him enough to do what is best for Milan.
Why wouldn't you want Ronaldo? He could very well be that quick, tricky winger you are talking about. I know his start to this season hasn't been impressive, but he is still young and can offer alot to Milan. Allowing him to join us instead of Real Madrid might just be in Man Utd's best interest (assuming he doesn't want to stay at Old Trafford any longer).madtherchot said:Fair enough. Will keep track on what will be happening. As long as his and Sheva's deals aren't made permanent, and Ronaldo doesn't roll back into town, it will be bearable, I guess. Not to mention improved female attendances, ladies? Berlu might indeed be evolving with current trends as you suggest.
MilanoMichael said:It is a great marketing move though. I called my cousin in Milan and he said the entire city was talking/excited about the move.
zZ[-_-]Zz said:To compete in Serie A, Milan have to prove our finances are not in the red. As far as I know, we are in the red, and the credit crunch might just make things worse (add the fact we don't have the finances generated from participating in the Champions League), hell, we might not be eligible for Serie A next season (highly unlikely, but still a possibility).
That to me seems a possible reason why we are acquiring his services. We are getting him for marketing purposes only, not to play him, have him assist in grooming youngsters etc. So the lack of pace, need for a speedy winger etc are not the question for now. It's not even about Sergio Ramos, but if he is Berlusconi's new dream toy, then he will try all means to get him, but that's another story for another time.
The real question is how much money will Brand Beckham make for Milan in his half season stay that would go on to help us beat the credit crunch, finance our stay in Serie A, finance our rejuvenation next season. These in turn could very well help us contest the Champions League for next season.
Berlusconi is a master at politics, what happening on the surface is just a show for the gullible public, but what happening behind it is the key. You should know very well how some people are just too stupid to understand things and only take things at face value.
Berlusconi has made Milan powerful, and he isn't about to stop. Sure, I don't agree with everything he does, but I trust him enough to do what is best for Milan.
zZ[-_-]Zz said:To compete in Serie A, Milan have to prove our finances are not in the red. As far as I know, we are in the red, and the credit crunch might just make things worse (add the fact we don't have the finances generated from participating in the Champions League), hell, we might not be eligible for Serie A next season (highly unlikely, but still a possibility).
That to me seems a possible reason why we are acquiring his services. We are getting him for marketing purposes only, not to play him, have him assist in grooming youngsters etc. So the lack of pace, need for a speedy winger etc are not the question for now. It's not even about Sergio Ramos, but if he is Berlusconi's new dream toy, then he will try all means to get him, but that's another story for another time.
The real question is how much money will Brand Beckham make for Milan in his half season stay that would go on to help us beat the credit crunch, finance our stay in Serie A, finance our rejuvenation next season. These in turn could very well help us contest the Champions League for next season.
Berlusconi is a master at politics, what happening on the surface is just a show for the gullible public, but what happening behind it is the key. You should know very well how some people are just too stupid to understand things and only take things at face value.
Berlusconi has made Milan powerful, and he isn't about to stop. Sure, I don't agree with everything he does, but I trust him enough to do what is best for Milan.
Pardon me. The fat ***.zZ[-_-]Zz said:Why wouldn't you want Ronaldo? He could very well be that quick, tricky winger you are talking about. I know his start to this season hasn't been impressive, but he is still young and can offer alot to Milan. Allowing him to join us instead of Real Madrid might just be in Man Utd's best interest (assuming he doesn't want to stay at Old Trafford any longer).
zZ[-_-]Zz said:Why wouldn't you want Ronaldo? He could very well be that quick, tricky winger you are talking about. I know his start to this season hasn't been impressive, but he is still young and can offer alot to Milan. Allowing him to join us instead of Real Madrid might just be in Man Utd's best interest (assuming he doesn't want to stay at Old Trafford any longer).
Ah, I see. You meant FattyFagnaldo who digs chicks-with-dicks. You should have been more specific.madtherchot said:Pardon me. The fat ***.
PS, Disclaimer and Edit: It wasn't my intention to say those two words side by side. A matter needed clarification, and hence, had to be addressed