The Consortium (Rossoneri Sport Investment Lux) Thread

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I don't know, it seemed clear that they were making a huge all or nothing bet that we'd make the CL this year, and not doing so would be a huge hit. What coach or WC player would join next year if we end up as 6th again? Can they promise a Conte that we'd spend another 200m to get his players? I really doubt that. It was all or nothing, and right now we have a whole lot of nothing.

Edit: Especially since if we don't make the CL we're going to have to sell some assets, most likely Donnarumma, Suso or Andre Silva. Whoever we replace them with won't be as good, since the point is to make money from the sales.
The "all or nothing" partially doesn't sound realistic at all.

Noone would bet 500m like it's a casino.
Especially if those 500m is all the money they got. :)

And it's not like football is a hugely profitable business. So the options were - Li either loses all his money or makes a modest profit? :)

By the way F&M said that during the summer mercato they have completed what? 60% of the transfer goals?
So surely, there's more money to spend and surely noone was certain we would take the league easily.

Finally, I still think we can finish top 4.
All it takes is for the 2-3 clubs to start chocking and we will be back in the game.
 

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Agree with forward, somehow papres always doubted our financial power, even in the summer, and yet they have all been proven wrong few times already... Also, our owners already made huge maneuvers to even buy the club...I think all of this financial negativity in papers comes from our bad results in the league.
Well, thats how i feel about this entire situation
 

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Was here to post just that. Huge NYT story with a clear stance that Li is shady as hell. I wonder what Fassone will say to this.

This one has plenty of details as well that previous stories didnt have. Good investigative journalism.

Originally, Guangdong Lion was ultimately owned by two investors, Li Shangbing and Li Shangsong, according to filings. Like Li Yonghong, the two men come from the same area of Maoming, a city on China’s southern coast, according to the documents. But in a phone interview, Li Shangbing said he did not know Li Yonghong.

Li Shangsong, who declined to comment, sold his interest in Guangdong Lion in 2015 to a person named Li Qianru, according to the documents. The documents did not include personal information about Li Qianru, who could not be reached for comment.

In May 2016, according to the filings, Li Shangbing and Li Qianru, sold Guangdong Lion to yet another Li: Li Yalu. The sale price: $0. The filings do not provide personal information about Li Yalu.

Three weeks later, Li Yalu sold a half stake in Guangdong Lion to a similarly obscure investor, Zhang Zhiling. The price: $0. Neither could be reached for comment.

Li is a common surname in China, and the relationships among the various Lis are unclear. The A.C. Milan spokesman declined to comment.

Li Yonghong, the A.C. Milan owner, and Li Shangbing have two things in common.

The first is a relationship with Guangdong Lion. A Chinese court cited Li Yonghong and Guangdong Lion in April for failing to resolve a loan dispute with another Chinese company, saying both parties had disappeared. The court did not specify the relationship. The A.C. Milan spokesman said that Li Yonghong had merely guaranteed the loan and that “he is a victim in this case.”

The second is an interest in investing in European sports.

In May 2016, a day before Li Shangbing sold Guangdong Lion for no money, he started a company called Sino-Europe Sports Asset Management Changxing Company, according to China’s corporate database.

Two days after he registered the Sino-Europe firm, another person registered a new company with a strikingly similar name: Sino-Europe Sports Investment Management Changxing Company. The two companies’ headquarters were in the same building in the city of Huzhou.

Sino-Europe Sports Investment owns a stake in A.C. Milan as a result of its role as a shareholder in Rossoneri Sport Investment, a Chinese company that is part of the group led by Li Yonghong that owns the soccer club.

In the phone interview, Li Shangbing denied setting up either Sino-Europe company and said he did not own any part of A.C. Milan. He declined to answer further questions. A.C. Milan declined to comment on Li Shangbing. The listed owner of the Sino-Europe Sports Investment Management Changxing Company, Chen Huashan, could not be reached for comment.

I'm beginning to think all these Li peeps are just like the guys here with 5 and 6 fake accounts.
 

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I'm beginning to think all these Li peeps are just like the guys here with 5 and 6 fake accounts.



Well everyone knew from the beginning that Li is shady.
My hope at this point is that he is shady because he is hiding his real wealth.
And not because he is a broke fraud. :proud:

I doubt he would convince 2 funds two give him 400m is he was just a fraud.
 

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Wish we would have stuck with Berlusconi, at least we knew what that cunt was capable off.
 

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really?:lol:

people are actually seriously asking for Berlusconi back? Maybe a little bit of Galliani as well?
 

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really?:lol:

people are actually seriously asking for Berlusconi back? Maybe a little bit of Galliani as well?


lots of Galliani top transfers without Berlusconis interferrence
 

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Silvio and Galliani killed the club. There is no quick fix. We were all hoping 200 mil investment in the summer would sort things out but it just shows what a mess the club was left in.

No world class players, no appeal to all the young talented players who don't remember the great Milan teams. The new management wanted better players but they didn't want us. Massive debt, losing millions every year and we don't even own our own stadium.

Things are bad at the moment but we are where we are due to Silvio and his complete lack of care for Milan between 2007 and 2017. Remember during those years Juve went from Serie B to a profitable club, they own their own stadium, world class squad, numerous Scudetto's and two CL finals in 3 years losing to a far better team in both finals.
 

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Silvio and Galliani killed the club. There is no quick fix. We were all hoping 200 mil investment in the summer would sort things out but it just shows what a mess the club was left in.

No world class players, no appeal to all the young talented players who don't remember the great Milan teams. The new management wanted better players but they didn't want us. Massive debt, losing millions every year and we don't even own our own stadium.

Things are bad at the moment but we are where we are due to Silvio and his complete lack of care for Milan between 2007 and 2017. Remember during those years Juve went from Serie B to a profitable club, they own their own stadium, world class squad, numerous Scudetto's and two CL finals in 3 years losing to a far better team in both finals.


Nice points, good post :thumbsup:. This bolded part is a fkin disgrace but true. As i said in some earlier posts, new kids only know about Messi and Ronaldo, and you cant blame them. If you know Shevchenko, you are probably at least 25y.o.
 

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Silvio and Galliani killed the club. There is no quick fix. We were all hoping 200 mil investment in the summer would sort things out but it just shows what a mess the club was left in.

No world class players, no appeal to all the young talented players who don't remember the great Milan teams. The new management wanted better players but they didn't want us. Massive debt, losing millions every year and we don't even own our own stadium.

Things are bad at the moment but we are where we are due to Silvio and his complete lack of care for Milan between 2007 and 2017. Remember during those years Juve went from Serie B to a profitable club, they own their own stadium, world class squad, numerous Scudetto's and two CL finals in 3 years losing to a far better team in both finals.

You're mostly right, but I don't think you can blame the stadium entirely on them. If you've been following the league in those years you'll also have realised how much red tape there is in getting stadium approval, it's political cock-blocking and even forward-thinking clubs like Roma (the most consistent post-Calciopoli team, top 3 almost every season etc) have struggled getting permission.

There is no quick fix but there's no quick fix in ANY transitional stage. Just look at Man Utd after Ferguson. Problems that come with no CL football (appeal to top players) are fixed not by throwing money at the team, but by good management and signing the right players, which we haven't done. I mean, Juve were playing with Matri and Vucinic upfront when they went unbeaten and won the league in 2012. Yeah they were smart with their stadium, but also lucky given how much influence the Agnellis have in Turin and in Italy through Fiat in general.

"Killed" the club is a bit of an exaggeration. Ghirardi killed Parma, Cragnotti pretty much killed Lazio. B&G just got stagnant, but they didn't leave us in a worse state than the oil Sheikhs picked up PSG and Man City.
 

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When people say ''give it time'' they are partially right, however the virtue of time doesn't heal things on itself. Milans current project is unclear and seems uncoordinated to the outside worls. Negative press, bad results, rash/illogical decisions. Bad results are the least worrying of these things.

And yes, the project SHOULD be clear and understandable to fans/players/football world if they want Milan to rebuild image after late B&G era. Money alone is not enough to attract top players and start a positive cycle again, at least not in the quantities that China seems able to provide.
 

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Im actually ok with the young players we have brought, its the older ones that have let us down

I have faith in silva, kessie, conti coming good next season. Its the lack of preparation for pre season (Montella had no clear plan ), and not enough midfield reinforcements that has screwed us. Also kalinic being off form lost us at least 9 points
 

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I hope these guys will continue focusing on italian players.

If all goes right, we could have half of Italy XI made up of our players.
Dollar - Bonucci - Alessio - Conti are pretty much confirmed to be starters in a year or so. Bonaventura is close. I'm sure Cutrone will be there too, maybe next to Immobile or even replace him in 1-2 yearrs. If Locatelli steps up, there's space for him too and maybe Calabria on LB, if he could adjust or rotate with Conti.

Molto bene!
 

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I hope these guys will continue focusing on italian players.

If all goes right, we could have half of Italy XI made up of our players.
Dollar - Bonucci - Alessio - Conti are pretty much confirmed to be starters in a year or so. Bonaventura is close. I'm sure Cutrone will be there too, maybe next to Immobile or even replace him in 1-2 yearrs. If Locatelli steps up, there's space for him too and maybe Calabria on LB, if he could adjust or rotate with Conti.

Molto bene!

no offence to italians but the national team is terrible and has a poor youth development system in place. More foreigners in milan the better the team would be. Italian players are simply not good enough to make this milan side an elite and well functioning team.
 

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poor guys. although it's because of their own incompetence, i feel sorry for them. they did gave us something to cheer about during the transfer season at least.
 

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Why were they not watching it on the laptop?
 

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They fucked up but still deserve some credit.
Thanks to the 200m spent last summer Leo has resources to work with (player sales, swaps, etc)

Imagine if Leo took over right after Galliani.
Couldn't do anything without spending a shitton of money.
 

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I never understood why they hired Inter flops.
 
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