1/2 - Germany (0) vs. Spain (1) - July 7th

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Obviously the two best teams & this should be the final.
I dont care who wins as long as the winner win the title.
 

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And here I thought you were talking about:

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Spain is better (technically wise).

Germany deserves it more. Beaten top contenders, scored most goals, played as a team.

My heart wants Germs in the final even though they will have very tough challenge, the toughest until this time.

I believe Spain is tricky for Germs. Hoping they have solution.
 

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Germany deserves it more. Beaten top contenders, scored most goals, played as a team.
Argentina & England ? ROFL
Holland played like shit & still had a stronger road than two looser teams in Argentina & England.
 

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Argentina & England ? ROFL
Holland played like shit & still had a stronger road than two looser teams in Argentina & England.

Yes and no. Brazil > Argentina/England, but Spain also is strong, and Germany still has to deal with them...
 

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busquets i a diving DM. much much worse. only thing worse is a diving CB


oh hey they got one of those too. Puyol.
 

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busquets i a diving DM. much much worse. only thing worse is a diving CB


oh hey they got one of those too. Puyol.
Diving/playacting/cheating.....everybody does it. From every nation. I wish we could be mature enough to accept this rather than paint one nation as good and the other as evil. Players of all positions fake. It's not strange from a CB....any CB who just got beaten from an attacker to claim he was fouled in the process.

When Trinidad was beaten by England in the world cup Peter Crouch needed to pull down the CB by his hair to reach over him to head the ball.....if THAT isn't the most pathetic thing you ever heard...1)Crouch is like 10' taller than Sancho 2)Trinidad and Tobago are nobodies in world football where the Brits are the footie gods of the universe :rolleyes:

If Now Sancho dramatically fell down and rolled around a couple of times for good measure the ref may have taken notice and called back the goal for the FOUL in the box. My point is that some players KNOW that they have to get the ref's attention.
 

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I remember this one, Rooney was completely taken out by Bosingwa and Ballack (I think) but somehow stayed up, then decided to dive about 10 metres further on. Idiot.

As Dru says, most dive these days. However it must me said the Premiership does if far less than other leagues. On the flip side of that though our players are awful at doing it. The only player who could dive without it being obvious was Pires.
 
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busquets i a diving DM.
Yeah man , thank god we dont have a diving DM.
But wait ..... Ambro.

much much worse. only thing worse is a diving CB


oh hey they got one of those too. Puyol.
We had a diving GK so Milan fans shouldnt even talk shit about teams simply coz some of their players dive.
For only having + liking ugly face no Milan fan should ever say shit about divers.
 

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I'll be suprised if there's more than 2 goals in this game. Germany have played on the counter so far, but Spain are a possession orientated team, so they can nullify Germany's attack.

The problem for Argentina was that they had no link between the midfield and attack, so pushed 1 or 2 more players forward and got done for it. After you go behind you fall in to the Germans plan.

Against England we were 1-0 pretty quickly as our defensive line was too far forward and positionally poor. Again the Germans could hit us on the counter at will.

I really hope Spain get an early goal so we can see what Germany are like when they are chasing the game.
 

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Yeah man , thank god we dont have a diving DM.
But wait ..... Ambro.

you're right Tame, Ambrosini totally dives and plays pic-a-boo with camera ;)

We had a diving GK so Milan fans shouldnt even talk shit about teams simply coz some of their players dive.
For only having + liking ugly face no Milan fan should ever say shit about divers.

fine. I'll talk shit about spain cause they are insanely overrated team with a bunch of arrogant midgets. They get the smallest amount of success and constantly praise them selves and suck there own dicks in the media, which is most annoying factor for me.
 

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fine. I'll talk shit about spain cause they are insanely overrated team
European champions?
with a bunch of arrogant midgets
Since when you hated arrogance (I'mahomo, CR7 etc)
They get the smallest amount of success and constantly praise them selves and suck there own dicks in the media, which is most annoying factor for me.
Winning the Euros...and against Germany to boot isn't small success. Their clubs and their league is off the chain too. And EVERY nation praises their success....esp the yanks...you win the nba title you win the "world championship" :rolleyes:
 

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busquets i a diving DM. much much worse. only thing worse is a diving CB


oh hey they got one of those too. Puyol.

And Pique.

European champions?
Since when you hated arrogance (I'mahomo, CR7 etc)
Winning the Euros...and against Germany to boot isn't small success. Their clubs and their league is off the chain too. And EVERY nation praises their success....esp the yanks...you win the nba title you win the "world championship" :rolleyes:

New Greece. The only difference is that Spain don't have balls and instead have more technique.

That Germany who got defeated by Spain seemed like... "okay we're not that great yet, we're here because we're german and our balls always drive ourselves far".

That Spain was probably the best ever and they needed penaltys to beat the worst Italy ever. Even Robinho and his useless raped that Italy without needing penaltys.

One year later they went to Confedarations Cup and Brazil didn't even nee to show them how pussies they are. USA did that.

Now they're diving more than ever. They're giving red cards by their own.

Germany has the obligation of not only win. Germany has the obligation of rape their ass like a 7'0 black dude after taking a high dosage of Viagra. 1x0 and 2x0 will not make me happy.
 

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i think that no one here is willing to admit, spain r no different than italy or other 'defensive teams'. Score one and play possession with no attempt to go on for more. Hey its effective, and i won't deny these things:

a)I dont mind most spanish players
b) i dont mind spanish style of play
c) i actually like the tactics of controlling possession. The 4 cm system of 4-2-2-2 or whatever you wanna claim they r playing (4-2-2-2 IMO) is effective if ur two attacking mids put in defensive work (sidenote.... why it never works w/ ronaldinho and kaka... neither do defense 1 bit). for me this is always more interesting play than 4-4-2 w/ flying wingers.

but don't go feeding me tired media bs that's constantly rammed down my thread about how they play "so beautiful" or my personal favorite "how football is meant ot be played".... when in realty they look for a goal and then play keep away in midfield, cause they r just technically superior passers. It's fine, but it's not the greatest thing since sliced break. They did it in euro 2008 v. germany in final and in all matches this tourney so far.

now on the opposite. IMO Germany has been most impressive team of tourney. They are only team who has had it in them to keep going for goals when up 1-0, 2-0. 2 straight 4 goal games and three 4 goal games in tourney show that. The way this germany plays, for me is a model i wish milan would look at or other club. Very interesting, well organized in attack and defense.
 
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I believe that Germany will get into the final.
They deserve it.
It's very rare that a team that deserves to win the WC wins it. 2006, 1998, 1982, and 1970 are the only instances IMO. :o ;)
 

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It's very rare that a team that deserves to win the WC wins it. 2006, 1998, 1982, and 1970 are the only instances IMO. :o ;)

Are you serious or is that a mistake?

I thought you'd pick 1934, 1938, 1982 & 2006 :tongue:
 

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It's very rare that a team that deserves to win the WC wins it. 2006, 1998, 1982, and 1970 are the only instances IMO. :o ;)

Lol you're counting the referee mistake on Brazil x Belgium and ignoring the referee mistake on Italy x Australia?
 

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Are you serious or is that a mistake?

I thought you'd pick 1934, 1938, 1982 & 2006 :tongue:

exactly what i was thinking lol. In all honesty, of all world cups in my lifetime. 1998 might be most UNFAIR one.
 

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I thought you'd pick 1934, 1938, 1982 & 2006 :tongue:

1938 is the most deserved one (come on that do or die letter by il Duce is by far the greatest tactic ever invented, specially with nice hungarians facing you, some other more SOB NT wouldn't have give a damn).

OT: Whatever happened to Hungary in football? Spain took them all?
i think that no one here is willing to admit, spain r no different than italy or other 'defensive teams'. Score one and play possession with no attempt to go on for more. Hey its effective, and i won't deny these things:

a)I dont mind most spanish players
b) i dont mind spanish style of play
c) i actually like the tactics of controlling possession. The 4 cm system of 4-2-2-2 or whatever you wanna claim they r playing (4-2-2-2 IMO) is effective if ur two attacking mids put in defensive work (sidenote.... why it never works w/ ronaldinho and kaka... neither do defense 1 bit). for me this is always more interesting play than 4-4-2 w/ flying wingers.

but don't go feeding me tired media bs that's constantly rammed down my thread about how they play "so beautiful" or my personal favorite "how football is meant ot be played".... when in realty they look for a goal and then play keep away in midfield, cause they r just technically superior passers. It's fine, but it's not the greatest thing since sliced break. They did it in euro 2008 v. germany in final and in all matches this tourney so far.

now on the opposite. IMO Germany has been most impressive team of tourney. They are only team who has had it in them to keep going for goals when up 1-0, 2-0. 2 straight 4 goal games and three 4 goal games in tourney show that. The way this germany plays, for me is a model i wish milan would look at or other club. Very interesting, well organized in attack and defense.
Have to agree with this. Statements made by their own players ("had we not won it wouldn't have been fair to football")...seriously they do have lots of good players that I like a lot, but that attittude by them and their press (funny enough, that attittude comes mostly from catalan players, but it's reflected on Madrid press, well NT level).

And yes I do believe what Spain has been playing in this WC is a variant of defensive football, scoring the goal, hogging the ball the rest of the game is a way of defending, there's nothing wrong with that, but people should be consequent by not whinning about Italy doing the same (probably not hogging possession, which at least makes games more intense), it's really not all that different. Just that one has been labeled by the media as "beautiful football" so regardless of how they do, they're beautiful, while the other is always "negative ugly football", even when they play nice it's "negative ugly football" (read germany-italy thread of 06').
 
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exactly what i was thinking lol. In all honesty, of all world cups in my lifetime. 1998 might be most UNFAIR one.

Brazil sold the WC in 1998. I don't know what theory about this WC is real something very weird happened there.

Brazil didn't wanted to play. The players werent struggling themselves at all. Seemed like they were in a very boring trainning.

Ronaldo didn't have a concussion. This story is bullshit. One theory is that he didn't want to play but Nike forced him to by blackmailing him.

Leonardo said: "If people knew what happened in 1998, they'd be disgusted" and we know that Leonardo is always trying to be a nice guy and avoiding polemics.
 

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