@ San Pato
I like that formation. But IMO to be able to play that formation two of the key players are the "box-to-box" midfielder and the CF.
Ambrosini and Borriello? I don't think so. 1: they are very average. 2:Borriello can't carry an attack, doesn't have enough tools. And Ambro is a DM, he's not so great at going forward.
I we had Dzeko and Schweinsteiger in that formation and we would have a scudetto and CL winning team.
I think it'd be better if we had Flamini in a box-to-box role as he can shoot better and he has the stamina for it unlike Ambro. While Ambro can be the DM as he's less unpredictable with his tackles and doesn't get a yellow every 5 tackles. Having him stay back-ish would also conserve his energy.
the real problem is that ronaldinho can't absolutely play the "10" position(and berlusconi wants that).. i hope allegri understand it as soon as possibile..
the real problem is that ronaldinho can't absolutely play the "10" position(and berlusconi wants that).. i hope allegri understand it as soon as possibile..
guys what are your views on our midfield it has to be thre men midfield since berlu has his wishes
-----------??---------------
----flamini-------??----------------
OR
-------Seedorf----------------
--ambro-----peerlo----------------
HAHAHH if we play against the likes of barca chelsea inter and joses real its going to be a rape with this nonathletic geriatric old age overrated slow fucking midfield
this is where we should focus pirlo and seedorf can be great asset if we can rotate them. they are nothing special by themselves and they are a liability now
guys what are your views on our midfield it has to be thre men midfield since berlu has his wishes
-----------??---------------
----flamini-------??----------------
OR
-------Seedorf----------------
--ambro-----peerlo----------------
HAHAHH if we play against the likes of barca chelsea inter and joses real its going to be a rape with this nonathletic geriatric old age overrated slow fucking midfield
this is where we should focus pirlo and seedorf can be great asset if we can rotate them. they are nothing special by themselves and they are a liability now
[CENTER]Borriello Pato
Ronaldinho
Flamini Ambrosini
Pirlo
Antonini Silva Nesta Zambrotta[/CENTER]
YAY for 10th place!
^ i don't quite know what you mean by mine being narrow ..(miss the arrows ?)...but i like the second formation ...the first one is pretty narrow too+ the fact that we have to put faith in Zambro + Antonini in defense is scary ..ie..people like Pepe will start to have a great influence in games from wide ...i just think the 3-man works around our shortcomings at fb and enhances our strength in our CBs also with good back ups + a place for all our youngsters aswell as back-up (except de vito....maybe he can become a CM?)
interesting stuff but it's too narrow....
I would argue something more along lines of this:
4-3-1-2 converting into 3-4-1-2
ie....
pato--bori
dinho
pirlo--flamini
silva
antonini--nesta--papa--zambrotta
abbiati
turning into
interesting stuff but it's too narrow....
I would argue something more along lines of this:
4-3-1-2 converting into 3-4-1-2
ie....
pato--bori
dinho
antonini--pirlo--flamini--abate
nesta--silva--papa
even then you have a huge problem of ronaldinho, as you'd want that CAM to a) be more a more direct player and B provide some defensive cover..... more hamsik/honda/van der vaart
All the players in your formation are naturally central players with exception maybe to dinho. You need some width to spread other team out and open space....
it can come from fbs or midfield. But anotnini and abate are naturally wide players... they push up and defenders have to commit to them....
it gets even better if you have great fb's like maicon or dani alves who take a lot of attention of defense and will open space for central midfielders
Maybe Allegri does plan to use Silva just in front of the defence when Nesta and Papa are both fit! Personally i love the idea as he is a beast going forward (Lucio'ish) and has a good long shot plus he is fast and can give a solid defensive cover!
Damn, I hate 3 man defenses. The worst teams I've ever seen in my life are brazilians teams using the 3-5-2. It's so easy to break.. We will be crushed by the wingers when we play against the 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1.
What ?
You do realize your NT win WC with that formation rite ?
Btw I must agree this is most barbaric and fragile formation ever (see some south-east asia football guys)
But with right player and coach this tactic can do wonder. (the probability is low as shit though)
This is what we'd look like on paper before games .etc
and I'd like us to line up like this (with our current line up + maybe Bochetti)
-we will always have at least three men behind the ball with Nesta ,having the athletic back-up he needs in Sokratis and Bochetti ....T.Silva is good in the air and has great ability going forward and defending + can slot in to a Cb place with the RCB and LCB pushing out (as will be shown later)...pace could be an issue with our CBS but sokratis and Bochetti aren't slow
-Pirlo is placed as the LCM ,because of his ability to pick those passes (Orchestrate ) and he can defend (contrary to (hater) belief ) and he will have T.silva covering for him
....Ambro as possible back-up
-Antonini and abate (perhaps Dodo and Zambezi) can fight it out for this spot which focuses more on adding width and support for pato on the right hand side and can cross from deep ...they obviously will have to contribute to midfield defense but because they are higher up they will have the responsibility to snuff things out before hand ....possibly for the younger legs aka Anton and Abate
-Flamini will occupy the Box-Box ...i believe he can fulfill that role + brings the energy and bite we lack in the middle of the park ...Ambro and Strasser as back-up for him
-The Cam spot will be occupied by Dinho ...he can play games where he could be utilized to the fullest (drifting out to the left)perhaps smaller teams-Mid table teams..with merkel as back up and Dorf in the big games
Obviously the striking explains itself....Pato on the right gives both Pirlo and dinho the chance to deliver those diagonals we all love