Arrigo Sacchi Thread

Dirk Diggler · Feb 17, 2015

I think Arrigo means the lack or diminishing of more historied, generationally Italian football players in Italy. That seems much, much different than, "damn these blacks, they're not Italian, c'mere The Man, let's have a bunga bunga together at the local government citizenship office."

I can't fault fairly simple nationalism, even if it appears to be racist superficially. If you think Sacchi's statements are as bad or equally hateful as Himmler or G?ring's, you're just an idiot.

Also, Abbiati most likely thinks the same, but he's still a player for us and also somebody Goodfella admires on some level, so I think the cherry picking here is pretty dumb.

necromancer · Feb 18, 2015

Racist superficially? Nonsense.

He's old, his value systems are obviously different. So he should just try reaally hard to shut up in a changed world with more acceptance and evolution.

Sod-Lod · Feb 18, 2015

necromancer said:
Racist superficially? Nonsense.

He's old, his value systems are obviously different. So he should just try reaally hard to shut up in a changed world with more acceptance and evolution.

Especially that there are generation of Milan fans are considering him as an Idol and history maker.

Dirk Diggler · Feb 18, 2015

necromancer said:
Racist superficially? Nonsense.

He's old, his value systems are obviously different. So he should just try reaally hard to shut up in a changed world with more acceptance and evolution.

Do you see the irony?

Edit: Irony is when the French authorities arrest a black(hmm) satirist for antisemitic jokes a few days after the Charley Hebdo incident. Acceptance and freedom of speech is a funny thing.

Sod-Lod · Feb 18, 2015

Sacchi slams anti-racist 'populism'

Former Coach Arrigo Sacchi admits he was 'careless' in causing his racism row, but hits back at FIFA President Sepp Blatter and anti-racist 'populism'.

"I am amazed, but not as much as you may think," the former Italy boss commented.

"I know only too well that in this environment populism is par for the course, and that there is no memory of history."

"I've been in football for 42 years, and over these 42 years no-one ever accused me of being racist."

"I don't think I became one at the age of 68."

"I coached and am friends with many black players. I'm not so stupid or obtuse."

"I was perhaps careless, among other things because I thought nobody could ever call me a racist."

Sacchi then went on in an attempt to clarify what his intended statement was.

"I was just explaining the problems of Italian football."

"Among the most serious is the excess of foreign players in Italy. They can't be more than a few, and of high quality."

"I was explaining how in other countries there's a different kind of pride, for instance in Spain, where people in Madrid complain if Spaniards don't get playing time."

"There's a business here in Italy, but it's a very dangerous one."

"People make money over the skin of young players, especially those who come from poor countries with great expectations."

"Many are purchased without even being scouted."

"I said that many foreigners are playing and on that day I saw four, five black kids on the pitch."

"I didn't think that was racism. Today, in Italy and abroad, just mentioning 'black' or 'colour' has everyone off their leash."

"If I'd used the word 'foreigners' nobody would have said a thing."

"Instead we get all the moralists and the politically correct, people I won't deign with a response because the whole world knows their story, much like the whole world knows my story."

"I'm sorry that there's no memory of our history at all."

"If I haven't been able to explain myself in 42 years, then I'll have to spend another 20 hoping they understand what I'm like."

Sod-Lod · Feb 18, 2015

Ancelotti: 'Sacchi? Much honour'
Real Madrid Coach Carlo Ancelotti backs Arrigo Sacchi, caught in a racism row, with the cryptic phrase: "Many enemies, a lot of honour."

“I salute Arrigo Sacchi. Many enemies, a lot of honour.”

Senatore_M84 · Feb 18, 2015

Paraphrasing Sacchi: "i got many black friends and i once coached some black players so 'fuck ya'll *****Z, i do what i want"

Senatore_M84 · Feb 19, 2015

i have still yet to hear an explanation of this 'dangerous' practice of bringing black kids in. What Cellino and De Laurenitis are casting off to africa in a slave ship and trapping youngsters? Signing unscouted kids when they can't give little paolo down the street a chance?

What is this dangerous practice? Seems like sour grapes, ignorance and racism over a globalized world.

If his problem is the way players are developed, then i think everyone agrees Italy is way behind germany, spain etc. in terms of proper training methods.

But could it be academies of teams are filled w/ foreign players because football is now global and they are simply better? Pulling talent from a larger potential pool (you know THE GLOBE) then a peninsula of 40 mil?

Sacchi should stick to training techniques, cause his pathetic prideful defense only makes him sound more out of touch and stupid

Senatore_M84 · Feb 19, 2015

why isn't there any data on this 'serious' problem Sacchi talks about? Oh cause it's just same out of touch old white racists speaking out there asses. OK.

"Back when i was a child you saw no n*gguurs in this neighborhood. Where's my shotgun!"

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And people wonder why black players like constant or balotelli lash out? They're basically told there not the same level human

Dirk Diggler · Feb 19, 2015

Reading comprehension is severely lacking in this forum..

Sorriso Sempre · Feb 19, 2015

Senatore_M84 said:
i have still yet to hear an explanation of this 'dangerous' practice of bringing black kids in. What Cellino and De Laurenitis are casting off to africa in a slave ship and trapping youngsters? Signing unscouted kids when they can't give little paolo down the street a chance?

What is this dangerous practice? Seems like sour grapes, ignorance and racism over a globalized world.

If his problem is the way players are developed, then i think everyone agrees Italy is way behind germany, spain etc. in terms of proper training methods.

But could it be academies of teams are filled w/ foreign players because football is now global and they are simply better? Pulling talent from a larger potential pool (you know THE GLOBE) then a peninsula of 40 mil?

Sacchi should stick to training techniques, cause his pathetic prideful defense only makes him sound more out of touch and stupid

whats your opinion about atletico bilbao??

necromancer · Feb 19, 2015

Senatore_M84 said:
i have still yet to hear an explanation of this 'dangerous' practice of bringing black kids in. What Cellino and De Laurenitis are casting off to africa in a slave ship and trapping youngsters? Signing unscouted kids when they can't give little paolo down the street a chance?

What is this dangerous practice? Seems like sour grapes, ignorance and racism over a globalized world.

If his problem is the way players are developed, then i think everyone agrees Italy is way behind germany, spain etc. in terms of proper training methods.

But could it be academies of teams are filled w/ foreign players because football is now global and they are simply better? Pulling talent from a larger potential pool (you know THE GLOBE) then a peninsula of 40 mil?

Sacchi should stick to training techniques, cause his pathetic prideful defense only makes him sound more out of touch and stupid

He paraphrased his worry pretty well this time actually. He thinks agents are making money by simply bringing in kids from African countries and clubs do not even scout them properly before signing them - just because they are 'foreign' and that's fashionable.

See. Sacchi is old and his original statement was clearly moronic. But his worry, if true, is a genuine worry considering his mandate/desire to develop 'Italian' players - whether that be white or black or any other colour.

Inzaghi · Feb 19, 2015

Is it racist to force every team to have at least 6 Italians in the team?

General · Feb 19, 2015

Forza sacchi you whiny little fucks

Australiano1980 · Feb 19, 2015

sacchis milan

...................lopez
bonera..alex..paletta..antonelli
cerci..poli..montolivo..bonav
............destro....menez.

rotating essien.. muntari.. honda poli..

Sod-Lod · Feb 19, 2015

Australiano1980 said:
sacchis milan

...................lopez
bonera..alex..paletta..antonelli
cerci..poli..montolivo..bonav
............destro....menez.

rotating essien.. muntari.. honda poli..

You wouldn't blame him with that lineup :tongue:

but Abate above Bon because he is blonde

Australiano1980 · Feb 19, 2015

Sod-Lod said:
You wouldn't blame him with that lineup but Abate above Bon because he is blonde

i dont wanna be your friend anymore

Hondayum · Feb 19, 2015

Having been on RnB for a while now, I have to say that the reaction to Sacchi's comments...have gone quite well.

Sod-Lod · Feb 19, 2015

Australiano1980 said:
i dont wanna be your friend anymore

i was joking dude

Oh wait wait and Boc over Alex and Bon over Pal :lol:

But seriously that must be stopped and our old generations need to visit psychologist and have a proper treatment and also our culture and custom need to cleanup there bigotry and racism attitudes and expressions.

Australiano1980 · Feb 19, 2015

Sod-Lod said:
i was joking dude Oh wait wait and Boc over Alex and Bon over Pal

But seriously that must be stopped and our old generations need to visit psychologist and have a proper treatment and also our culture and custom need to cleanup there bigotry and racism attitudes and expressions.

i know man

Sod-Lod · Feb 19, 2015

Australiano1980 said:
i know man

The big problem now is that the Sacchi's quotes are trending in every reputed TV & Radio stations beside the social media! :fp:

+ Paolo + Sacchi + Carlo are all representing Milan's image and our situation and results are not in our side also; we can only remind ourselves with "Don't shoot yourself in the foot!" :fp:

Massaro94 · Apr 1, 2015

Grazie Arrigo for creating the greatest club side of all time.

Mr. Milanista · Apr 1, 2015

Grazie Sacchi!

Massaro94 · Apr 11, 2015

Der Meister

Anti Catenaccio

milanoldfarts · May 20, 2015

People accusing Sacchi of racism...what a joke :thumbsdown:

Massaro94 · Jul 3, 2015

2 snippets from the sky documentary. (2 minutes in total)

http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=TIwj2sxPtQE&s=25&e=51

http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=TIwj2sxPtQE&s=1473&e=1552

Mr. Milanista · Jul 3, 2015

I've seen that video like 10 times. Capellos too like 10 times. I never get tired of them

Massaro94 · Jul 4, 2015

UEFA.com analyses the teams that changed football; this time, the AC Milan side that won back-to-back European Champion Clubs' Cups at the turn of the 1990s.

www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2213362.html

Massaro94 · Sep 15, 2015

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