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Hugh Janus · Sep 10, 2019

Italians should've reduced to 18 teams long time ago.

omer486 · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
Italy needs a change in tax laws... let the players pay their own tax.

54m annual wage is where this squad is at... 94m is bs.

That's the dumbest idea ever! Players only care about the net money going into their pocket. If a club now pays 10 min gross salary now, they still will have to pay 10 min gross salary, whether they (the clubs) pay the tax or the players pay the tax.

Do you think a player getting 10 min gross salary (5 mil net salary) right now is going to accept a 5 mil gross salary (2.5 mil net) just because he's the one paying the tax and not the club??

Hitchens · Sep 10, 2019

My mistake, I thought I read about 18 teams in a Super League.

18 teams in Serie A is maybe not such a bad idea. Would be terror this year tho.

Zgontronoman · Sep 10, 2019

ZBoban said:
Top 20 most expensive squads in the world according to CIES Football Observatory. Lucky 13 baby!!! So does our squad quality reflect the money we spent to build it???

1. Manchester City - €1.014bn
2. Paris Saint-Germain - €913m
3. Real Madrid - €902m
4. Manchester United - €751m
5. Juventus - €719m
6. Barcelona - €697m
7. Liverpool - €639m
8. Chelsea - €561m
9. Atletico Madrid - €550m
10. Arsenal - €498m
11. Everton - €486m
12. Tottenham - €465m
13. AC Milan - €408m
14. Inter Milan - €364m
15. Bayern Munich - €352m
16. Monaco - €348m
17. Napoli - €325m
18. Borussia Dortmund - €321m
19. Leicester - €312m
20. Valencia - €266m

How the fuck is the MU team worth 750m...De Hea, Pogba and Rashford are good the rest a mediocre

Goodfella · Sep 10, 2019

Hitchens said:
Is that breaking news?

He's been rambling about this for years. I'm very opposed but fear it may be inevitable.

This is not the same as the ridiculous Super League idea.
It's actually not very different to how it used to be back in 2002-2003 season. Serie A had 18 teams. Champions League had two group stages / more games.
Bundesliga still has only 18 teams.

I wouldn't mind it, although I like or am used to judge points tally based on 38 rounds.

No way EPL would agree to it though. They have the least to gain and most to lose.

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

omer486 said:
That's the dumbest idea ever! Players only care about the net money going into their pocket. If a club now pays 10 min gross salary now, they still will have to pay 10 min gross salary, whether they (the clubs) pay the tax or the players pay the tax.

Do you think a player getting 10 min gross salary (5 mil net salary) right now is going to accept a 5 mil gross salary (2.5 mil net) just because he's the one paying the tax and not the club??

They do in England.

Goodfella · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
They do in England.

The only difference is how media reports it.

In Italy they list net annual salaries, in England their pre-tax weekly salaries.
Both pay taxes.

joyrider · Sep 10, 2019

necromancer said:
+1 Andre Silva was the only move that I instinctively disliked.

The rest looked fab. Kessie & Conti were my favourite moves back then, thanks to their previous season. Quite similar to the Bennacer + Krunic moves this summer, except much more expensive because Mirabelli didnt care. Hopefully those two will turn out far better.

i had high hopes for Silva, as for all of them, the only one that has given me some sort of satisfaction is Kessié....Mirabelli was a farmer..

Goodfella said:
I'll also always hope for the best even if it's a move I don't like.
One can discuss and criticize the moves without wishing for the player, coach or tactics to fail.
No one has as little faith in Giampaolo as me, but I'll be as happy as anyone if he somehow succeeds here.

This is a forum for discussion, so we can all have our own opinions along the line of a Milan fan.

ZBoban · Sep 10, 2019

Zgontronoman said:
How the fuck is the MU team worth 750m...De Hea, Pogba and Rashford are good the rest a mediocre

Dumb management that's how. Somehow every signing they make breaks the British transfer record :lol:

Neruda · Sep 10, 2019

Ricardo rodriguez scored a nice out side the box goal :monto:

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

Goodfella said:
The only difference is how media reports it.

In Italy they list net annual salaries, in England their pre-tax weekly salaries.
Both pay taxes.

In Italy the clubs pay taxes for themselves and players... in Eng players pay their own tax.

nefremo · Sep 10, 2019

Goodfella said:
This is not the same as the ridiculous Super League idea.
It's actually not very different to how it used to be back in 2002-2003 season. Serie A had 18 teams. Champions League had two group stages / more games.
Bundesliga still has only 18 teams.

I wouldn't mind it, although I like or am used to judge points tally based on 38 rounds.

No way EPL would agree to it though. They have the least to gain and most to lose.

EPL doesn't need to agree. They can just get rid of one of their useless cup competitions and that'll free up time for them to play more European fixtures. Don't they have 3 cup competitions?

Anyway, I love the idea. Hope it happens. Rather play more European gamaes rather then vs the likes of Cesena, Chievo, Empoli, etc. First, we gotta make it to these European competitons though.

Goodfella · Sep 10, 2019

nefremo said:
EPL doesn't need to agree. They can just get rid of one of their useless cup competitions and that'll free up time for them to play more European fixtures. Don't they have 3 cup competitions?

The top clubs field the reserves in the league cup so it's not felt as much as games that would actually matter.

Why would LPool, Manure, Chelsea, City or Arsenal give up some league games for more UCL games?
The match-day stadium revenue from EPL games is almost as high as in UCL.
The EPL TV deal is too good for them to risk ruining.

There is very little to gain from them and much more to lose.

And contrary to popular belief, they are even more conservative and nationalistic than Italians when it comes to football.
That's why league cup still exist. That's why they still play matches on New Year's Day and don't take a mid-season break. That's why they can't air more than one game on Saturdays 16:00 CET.

abritcemeng · Sep 10, 2019

Pingu said:
Not sure if awful defence, or Leao is a magician.

I don't know how to say if Giampaolo prefers samu than this kid for the next match

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

Master Smurf · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
In Italy the clubs pay taxes for themselves and players... in Eng players pay their own tax.

I think he is saying that it works out to the "same" amount of money on the club. If the players are going to take on the tax burden then the club has to increase their wages to offset that.

I'm almost sure thats what Omer is saying.

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

Master Smurf said:
If the players are going to take on the tax burden then the club has to increase their wages to offset that.
.

As a club, you tell them to go jump off a cliff.

fray · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:

Duarte a veteran defender :head:

Kaka92 · Sep 10, 2019

Zero injuries after pause. Wow.

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

How much wud Fabian Ruiz cost?

Hugh Janus · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
How much wud Fabian Ruiz cost?

a lot

Goodfella · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
In Italy the clubs pay taxes for themselves and players... in Eng players pay their own tax.

Not sure what your issue with this is.

All the money comes from the club, whether it's the player, his uncle, his accountant or another club employee that takes care of the taxes.

Clubs being involved in the tax payment is a good thing, and it happens in England as well. Chelsea even tried to set up an offshore company for Kante.
Players only care about the net salary so it's in the clubs' best interests to get involved and do everything to bring down the tax rate.

Hitchens · Sep 10, 2019

The soccer experts at it again?

Neruda · Sep 10, 2019

vB9 said:
How much wud Fabian Ruiz cost?

Pay 60-75 M cash and hes urs. No loan bs

vB9 · Sep 10, 2019

Goodfella said:
Not sure what your issue with this is.

All the money comes from the club, whether it's the player, his uncle, his accountant or another club employee that takes care of the taxes.

Clubs being involved in the tax payment is a good thing, and it happens in England as well. Chelsea even tried to set up an offshore company for Kante.
Players only care about the net salary so it's in the clubs' best interests to get involved and do everything to bring down the tax rate.

#6885

54.7 figure I have no issue with at all... right number for this squad. My problem is with 94.1 figure.

IL Diavolo 3 · Sep 10, 2019

Napoli will not sell him for this kind of money. I mean they value Allan at 100m.

Hugh Janus · Sep 11, 2019

+ Cristiano Ronaldo

General · Sep 11, 2019

Jesus Christ

When video games are actually brought into real life discussions :lol:

IL Diavolo 3 · Sep 11, 2019

General said:
Jesus Christ

When video games are actually brought into real life discussions

IL Diavolo 3 · Sep 11, 2019

We need a fifa 20 thread.

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