Italian Football Thread III

Hugh Janus · Nov 10, 2019

Imagine buying a club, you invest in some players, new stadium is on the way and you appoint Vincenzo Montella as your coach.

Pingu · Nov 10, 2019

Goodfella said:
A goal and 3 assists for Radja.

Simeone scoring against the team that sent him away.

Cigarini revived.

Cagliari are scary this year. Actually very strong so far. Even more scary for a Milan fan with hopes for even top 6. So many teams performing well.

Milaniscool · Nov 24, 2019

Dang Lazio and Roma won

Pingu · Nov 25, 2019

Cagliari couldn't hold on today, likely an important two points dropped that would've made them level 3rd.

Az. · Dec 1, 2019

Dybala yet again on the bench, cheeky bid for him in January? Him and Ibra together could be glorious.

Nalim · Dec 1, 2019

Why does Dybala start on the bench? He's Juve's best player by a distance and when he isn't on the field they obviously lack creativity. Ronaldo offers very little to this team when he isn't scoring he even prevented both Bonucci and Dybala from scoring :lol:

Had he started on the bench instead of Dybala the result might've been a different one.

Pingu · Dec 1, 2019

Napoli luck insane. Nearly lost to Bologna until last minute. They look very poor, a shame we couldn't have picked up 3 points last week.

fray · Dec 1, 2019

That might be the end of Ancelotti at Napoli

Ronin · Dec 1, 2019

Good job Sinisa

Pingu · Dec 7, 2019

I'd laugh at Napoli under Carlo doing so poorly but then I remember we're even worse.

fray · Dec 10, 2019

Who would've thought...

necromancer · Dec 11, 2019

^To be fair, anyone who could see that Gattuso was doing a great job last season. Clubs and owners did see that clearly, he was in the running for so many good jobs in the last few months.

I hope he does really well and they go deep in the CL.

Milan2012 · Dec 11, 2019

I don’t think Gattuso is really a good match for Napoli. Possession attacking football compared to Catenaccio. Then again people can adapt and overcome.

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necromancer · Dec 11, 2019

Catenaccio is nothing similar to the style of football that Gattuso trained at Milan. And the more defensive, sit-back style that we played from November or December last year was purely an adjustment due to the inability of our defenders to defend in a more modern offensive style. Gattuso's first instinct was to play the more free-flowing style that we had played prior to that.

Milan2012 · Dec 11, 2019

necromancer said:
Catenaccio is nothing similar to the style of football that Gattuso trained at Milan. And the more defensive, sit-back style that we played from November or December last year was purely an adjustment due to the inability of our defenders to defend in a more modern offensive style. Gattuso's first instinct was to play the more free-flowing style that we had played prior to that.

It showed a lot of aspects of Catenaccio, narrow fullback and defending wingers. Last man defender next to a proactive center back. Having your full 11 on your own half doing man marks. Soaking pressure and hitting on breaks, it’s how most our open goals came. It’s the reason we struggled against defensive teams. In his year and half of top flight experience with two/three transfer markets in his name the conclusive system that was most effective for him was a variation of Catenaccio.

fray · Dec 11, 2019

necromancer said:
^To be fair, anyone who could see that Gattuso was doing a great job last season. Clubs and owners did see that clearly, he was in the running for so many good jobs in the last few months.

I hope he does really well and they go deep in the CL.

It depends on how you see Gattuso and his tactical prowess. At Milan, many saw his style as pragmatic and hard-to-break-down. There was little leeway for him to get the Napoli job considering that every man and his dog were aware of his limitations as a coach.

But I think Rino will turn the ship around and bring some results, not because of his tactics or his style of play, but because of his leadership and simplicity. During the season, Napoli have needed less of submissive yes-men, tactics, instructions and all that jazz - but Gattuso's voice to mend the relationship between the president and players, after months of complications.

Re: Gattuso's next job, I always imagined him at a club like Genoa, and at best, Fiorentina. Ergo, yes, I'd never imagine that he would get a job at a top 3 club, whose goal is to surge their way into top 4 and go on a deep run in the Champions League, a competition that Gattuso has no manegerial experience in. In hindsight, however, there's much to say...

Luckily for Rino, that Milan experience did him wonders. Now, it remains to see if he has learnt from his mistakes.

necromancer · Dec 11, 2019

Gattuso's style and effectiveness now is very similar to Ancelotti's in his early days. They are both managers who are not wedded to any tactical systems but rely on managing a group in the best way possible. I really enjoy managers like that.

joyrider · Dec 11, 2019

I’d rather have Rino jobless than him managing Napoli.

It’ll hurt to see him in another team.

The Philosopher · Dec 11, 2019

The Philosopher said:
Smaldini will be Roma's best defender. Wouldn't mind him at Milan instead of that random Brazilian cb

Just came back to this forum to jerk my own dick. Also predicted leicester city owning this season in the EPL thread.

Dropping knowledge on you fools

Ronin · Dec 11, 2019

necromancer said:
Catenaccio is nothing similar to the style of football that Gattuso trained at Milan. And the more defensive, sit-back style that we played from November or December last year was purely an adjustment due to the inability of our defenders to defend in a more modern offensive style. Gattuso's first instinct was to play the more free-flowing style that we had played prior to that.

This. People seem to have totally forgotten the way we played first games last season and what he really wanted to do. Shit squad and tons of injuries made him change his approach and he still pretty much delivered under those circumstances.

I think he'll do great at Napoli, which is unfortunate for us. Hopefully he gets to continue growing there and comes back to us in 2 years, when we're also be at a more mature stage.

Pingu · Dec 11, 2019

joyrider said:
I’d rather have Rino jobless than him managing Napoli.

It’ll hurt to see him in another team.

It will, but he did well here regardless of what people did. In retrospect, everyone who wanted him gone would've kept him in a heartbeat for this season.

A shame it didn't work out, and wish him the best at Napoli except where it would go against Milan.

sheva · Dec 11, 2019

joyrider said:
I’d rather have Rino jobless than him managing Napoli

wait until summer and you'll see him both jobless and finished as a Napoli coach

Milan2012 · Dec 11, 2019

Nah I don’t see it, Gattusos stock is up bc we’re doing shit this season but ADL is taking a huge risk that I wouldn’t expect a regular top 2 to make. Coming from a Tusso lover.

Wild · Dec 11, 2019

I expected Carlo to have his usual shitty second season + fired but didnt expect to accomplish that so early.

Goodfella · Dec 14, 2019

Nice start for Rino

Az. · Dec 14, 2019

Already down 1 against Parma :lol:

Goodfella · Dec 14, 2019

https://streamja.com/9Z4R

Koulibaly :lol:

A very good CB, but ADL should've accepted the highest bid instead of giving him that massive raise that stirred shit up in the dressing room.
And now he's injured.

Koulibaly-Manolas is the CB duo that has conceded the most goals per game this season. 36m + 4.5m salary for Manolas. :lol:

Meanwhile Roma has found their best CB duo in years in Smalling-Mancini.

Goodfella · Dec 14, 2019

Lmfao

fray · Dec 14, 2019

Az. · Dec 14, 2019

Its amazing that ADL decided to hire Gattuso :lol:

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