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doesn't matter if he doesn't have his resume. All I know is that Woodley would clean gsp's chin out if they ever fight.
Nope. tyron has much better wins overall now. gsp's best win was Condit, shields and the hendricks fight which he clearly lost. Go look up sherdog and mma fighting scoreboard for that bout. Woodley would beat all of them. Gsp was afraid to fight even Robbie Lawler who got flatlined by Woodley. Woodley is better than the juiced to the gills version of Hendricks. The Woodley that lost to shields and Rory dint have a head coach and it's been well documented. He was purely a wrestler at the time. He has drastically improved under din thomas and doofus. His footwork, speed, ability to pace himself, power level and boxing has vastly improved. Funnily enough Hendricks ducked Woodley too lol. I respect gsp but he beat a lot of bloated LWs and mediocre one dimensional fighters barring the three that I mentioned. Nick Diaz is extremely one dimensional. Dan hardy is a joke. alves and koschek is a fodder. |
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Woodley is a good fighter and may be a tough matchup for GSP, but to think he can wax GSP is easy is a bit misguided. GSP is incredibly well rounded and still constantly improving Quote:
2. Woodley's last fights Darren Till - who the fook is that Demian Maia - BJJ one trick pony. Stephen Thompson - how many dimensional is he? ![]() Robbie Lawler - one dimensional Kelvin Gastelum - how many times has this guy failed to make weight? ![]() Dong Hyun Kim - above average fighter Who’s Woodleys best win? Thompson? Lawlor? Should we go further back? Rory MacDonald - lost to a not as good GSP Carlos Condit - ??? Josh Koscheck - 1 dimensional wet blanket Jake Shields - 1 dimensional fighter who only wrestles...Woodley's strong suit Jay Hieron - ![]() Seems like Condit is Woodley's best win too...according to your logic ![]() ![]() Last edited by Curupira; 10-10-2018 at 15:40. |
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I'm on the Woodley hype train so I'd say that he'd smash him. And GSP is totally ducking him, went to MW to fight Bisping and last I heard he wanted to go to LW to fight Conor - fighters perfectly suited for his game.
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GSP turned that corner when he took that break after having his brains scrambled by Hendricks. While he's away he's now seeing guys who (probably in his mind aren't as good as him) are making way more than he's ever made. He's made it really clear that his return is 100% about money. He wants to fight guys who can give him paydays, not people to cement his legacy ![]() ![]() |
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Hmmm all he's talking about are legacy fights
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Why even compare resumes? I think GSP has the better one, hence why he is regarded as either the Goat or Nr2 after Fedor by many but for fighting right now it's not as important.
I think Woodley is a hard fight because he is a champ but GSP went in there with Bisping with no issue. Is Bisping a worse fighter than Woodley? Of course, that much is clear but he's also considerably heavier and GSP was able to take his hits. Do we think GSP can wrestle with Woodley? Yes and he has a better gas tank. Anyway, I think George will try to go for triple belt, not sure if Dana wants to allow him that after he ducked his MW defense. Now ducking Whittaker - he undeniably did that imo and I don't blame him. ![]() 100% muscle - 0% intelligence I exist to make Merda fans miserable
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Is he gonna get his 2M? If he doesnt his dad will smack him around so much he will be forced to end his career.
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wonderboy also beat Rory and Robert freaking Whittaker. Whittaker would absolutely rape anyone gsp has ever faced. Last edited by Soldier_of_god; 11-10-2018 at 01:08. |
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You know who I think beats Woodley actually? gastulem. if that guy can make weight, he beats everyone in Welterweight including Woodley, gsp prime and anyone for the matter.
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Also no smashing by dad because Putin met the two and asked the father to be so kind and not smash Khabib ![]() Quote:
Don't get me wrong, Bisping isn't the better fighter(as I've already said I think) but I don't think GSP is scared of power shots at this point. But I do think he's looking for an easier fight. If Woodley has a fluke loss, you just know GSP is going to go for whoever gotten the title. He would definitely fight and grapplefuck Thompson if he was champ. Same for Colby, not so sure about Usman. Btw I didn't take his legacy statement as worrying but rather as him saying he'd rather fight illustrious fights that make his name bigger as opposed to fights that only inflate how much money his bank account has. Now how much of this is real and how much is just talking empty words I don't know but that's how I took it. ![]() 100% muscle - 0% intelligence I exist to make Merda fans miserable
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First of all, before we even get to the records, what exactly does this statement mean? Are you saying these fighters are technically more sound or simply that they have a better chance against people GSP have faced? If its only the ladder, everyone Mark Hunt has KOed before would probably give both GSP and Woodley trouble, why? Because they are heavyweights and without weight limits heavier person will always have an advantage. Now: Gastelum - most of his fights at MW, can barely make WW. Also lost to Neil Magny (world beater?). Lawler - just lost to a small WW in RDA. His "big wins" that UFC hyped him since his "comebacks" - split 2 decision fights with Hendricks and had a good TKO of Rory. But also only split decisioned Condit. So yea, you could say Hendricks gave GSP hell and Lawler split a series with him, and also the win against Rory is a good win, but nothing in his record OR his skill set is remotely suggesting he can beat ANY of GSP's wins. Maia - won't even talk about Usman and Colvington. Maia could never beat wrestlers: Jake Shield, Munoz, Weidman... And not to mention, GSP beat Shields, so your statement is simply not true. Whittaker - he is a middle weight, why are we even talking about him. If you are going to credit Thompson beating him and for that reason list Thompson as a world beater, should we also examine Court McGee? Guy who's .500 in the UFC today. All this information is available on Sherdog. I would be happy to hear your reasons as to why they would all beat everyone GSP has beaten. ![]() ![]() Last edited by Curupira; 11-10-2018 at 12:26. |
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That gets him paid...
That's why he really has no interest going back to WW because that's not where the money is at. ![]() ![]() |
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Lawler started losing only after Woodley flatlined him. Getting ko'd like that will crack your chin. He is not the same Lawler anymore. Rda toiled so hard to get past a broken,beaten and battered Lawler who was also injured in that fight. Nick Diaz beat Lawler when Lawler was raw. I highly doubt Diaz fodder would beat Lawler in his prime. BJ Penn sure isn't beating him either. I don't see anyone of gsp's wins beating prime Lawler. |
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![]() You conveniently add a timeline of fighter being in their prime and only want to examine a certain time period. So prime Lawler would have to beat prime Matt Hughes too right? You ever hear the stories out of the Militich camps what Hughes used to do to Lawler right? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() GSP fought LEGENDS of his time. Before GSP, Matt Hughes was unbeatable, only BJ have beaten Matt Hughes in his PRIME. So no, Condit is not GSP's "best fight", that is ridiculous, according to your OWN argument You also did not add anything concrete to counter my arguments, just more conjecture. Maia choked out Condit but Maia IN HIS PRIME also have no answer against wrestlers or ANYONE good enough at grappling to not engage him (Anderson). Are you going to ignore that? Hughes and Penn were both more well rounded fighters IN THEIR PRIME, and I would argue BJ is at least on par in terms of grappling. Lawler, at his ABSOLUTE best, is a period when all of GSP's best wins are out of their prime, so what's the point of comparing? But even if we do, there is nobody on Lawler's win list during his ABSOLUTE BEST times that GSP cannot beat, barring a roided out Hendricks which I thought GSP lost to (still won a decision), but even Lawler's 2 fights with Hendricks were close. Also, GSP beat Condit DECISIVELY. If you are going to point out Hendricks as a point that Lawler can beat someone that GSP can't in your mind, then GSP beat someone decisively that Lawler had a close fight with. Nobody has to discuss volume vs. damage done when judging GSP vs. Condit... ![]() ![]() Last edited by Curupira; 11-10-2018 at 12:24. |
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the disrespect I'm reading towards the GOAT in this thread is disgraceful
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