Ronaldo Thread

Congo Powers · Dec 31, 2010

zidane and ronaldo r teh 2 best players in history for me personally.

from my biased perspective..these r the only two players that i would go out of my way to watch. of course i've only watched milan games regularly since i was a wee kid but if zidane was playing, i'd have 2 peep. if ronaldo was playing, i'd have 2 peep.

Sven · Dec 31, 2010

MilanMB said:
What about this. Can Pele really be counted as one of the best ever?

Football was so different back then. Competition wasn't so fierce and defenders didn't really know how to handle someone with a big talent.

But on the other hand, the attackers were handled very tough and aggressive, bad rules etc.

I can't really make up my mind. But I'm leaning more towards no, ultimately I don't think someone from that era can be counted as the best ever. I mean, how many have really seen Pele in a full game? Isn't he more of a myth?

I know it's off-topic but Brazilians and comparisons Pele has been discussed so...

I agree with you on this. I always think it's a bit of pointless to compare players, much more players from different ages and that few have really followed/watched.

Pelé was one of the greats, there's no doubt about that because of his accomplishments and skills, this can't be denied. But of course there is a huge myth surrounding him. In Brazil he was made God-like by the journalists and a dictatorship seeking to use him, football, mass-media, Seleção and World Cups to create a national identity around football.

All that stuff that people call today as Samba football, or Joga Bonito, or "futebol arte" in Brazil, is nothing new. It was first created in the 60's in Brazil, the work of intelectuals, journalists and politicians. More than that, this idea was exported, and with such success that one can find Brazilian supporters all around the world 40 years after.

All that was at first built around Seleção and of course around the face, goals and the myth of Pelé. So it's hard for us, 40 years after, to know exactly where the myth ends and the football starts. And I think it's pointless to know this anyway.

drucurl · Dec 31, 2010

Congo Powers said:
zidane and ronaldo r teh 2 best players in history for me personally.

from my biased perspective..these r the only two players that i would go out of my way to watch. of course i've only watched milan games regularly since i was a wee kid but if zidane was playing, i'd have 2 peep. if ronaldo was playing, i'd have 2 peep.

<3 you bruh n/h :star:

manutd fan · Jan 1, 2011

Sven said:
I agree with you on this. I always think it's a bit of pointless to compare players, much more players from different ages and that few have really followed/watched.

Pelé was one of the greats, there's no doubt about that because of his accomplishments and skills, this can't be denied. But of course there is a huge myth surrounding him. In Brazil he was made God-like by the journalists and a dictatorship seeking to use him, football, mass-media, Seleção and World Cups to create a national identity around football.

All that stuff that people call today as Samba football, or Joga Bonito, or "futebol arte" in Brazil, is nothing new. It was first created in the 60's in Brazil, the work of intelectuals, journalists and politicians. More than that, this idea was exported, and with such success that one can find Brazilian supporters all around the world 40 years after.

All that was at first built around Seleção and of course around the face, goals and the myth of Pelé. So it's hard for us, 40 years after, to know exactly where the myth ends and the football starts. And I think it's pointless to know this anyway.

Garrincha's rated as highly as Pele in Brazil isn't he?

Redman10 · Jan 1, 2011

Some have Garrincha over Pele.

KujaIX · Jan 1, 2011

manutd fan said:
Garrincha's rated as highly as Pele in Brazil isn't he?

And Bobby Moore is rated higher than Gary Lineker. It works that way.

manutd fan · Jan 1, 2011

KujaIX said:
And Bobby Moore is rated higher than Gary Lineker. It works that way.

Don't see much wrong in that tbh. It's those who think Bobby Moore is the greatest Englishman of all time, when he clearly isn't, that get's a bit annoying.

Terminator · Jan 3, 2011

HIS FIRST GOAL! HIS COMEBACK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNX82_10fY

RONALDO RONALDO RONALDO TRUE LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ashish · Jan 3, 2011

If i wa there i would have gone skydiving from top tier fcukkkkkkkkkkkk

Madridista · Jan 15, 2011

doesnt get better than this. :proud:

kristpdr · Feb 7, 2011

abc

Who said Romario has scored 1000 goals? According to wikipedia he has scored 341 in 483 appearances and Ronaldo 352 in 515 appearances. Ronaldo was a prodigy when he was 17 years old and when he was twenty he was the best-playing with both feet, acceleration, very fast, very strong physically..He had his own choreography on the pitch..He flows between and around players like water..Unstoppable..By destiniy's faith the injuries stopped him ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRJCXOMtaL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eAKUXRaCTs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3f_-0BLsM&feature=related

Sven · Feb 13, 2011

From a lot of brazilian sources, he will retire from football tomorrow.

MilanMB · Feb 13, 2011

Sven said:
From a lot of brazilian sources, he will retire from football tomorrow.

Really?

How awesome it would be, to be able to turn back time and see him play that 2002 world cup again.

Sven · Feb 13, 2011

kristpdr said:
Who said Romario has scored 1000 goals? According to wikipedia he has scored 341 in 483 appearances and Ronaldo 352 in 515 appearances. Ronaldo was a prodigy when he was 17 years old and when he was twenty he was the best-playing with both feet, acceleration, very fast, very strong physically..He had his own choreography on the pitch..He flows between and around players like water..Unstoppable..By destiniy's faith the injuries stopped him ..

Wikipedia lol

The celebration of the goal 1000:

Sven · Feb 13, 2011

MilanMB said:
Really?

How awesome it would be, to be able to turn back time and see him play that 2002 world cup again.

Yep. The things really become hard for him after Corinthias got knock-out in Pre-Libertadores. Ronaldo is completely out of shape and form, can't even run anymore, he is a total liability to the team. The supporters are turning against him.

He should have retired last year, would have avoided all this.

But whatever, a great player and a great career.

MilanMB · Feb 13, 2011

Sven said:
Yep. The things really become hard for him after Corinthias got knock-out in Pre-Libertadores. Ronaldo is completely out of shape and form, can't even run anymore, he is a total liability to the team. The supporters are turning against him.

He should have retired last year, would have avoided all this.

But whatever, a great player and a great career.

One can only imagine what he could have done if he had a better attitude/more motivation during the end of his career and more luck with injuries during the beginning and middle.

It's a shame really that he never won the CL.

Madridista · Feb 14, 2011

He can run, but doesn't want to. He's probably feeling pain while he does or doesn't have the stamina, most likely both.

Farewell my hero. There will never be a player like you, ever.

MilanMB · Feb 14, 2011

Madridista said:
He can run, but doesn't want to. He's probably feeling pain while he does or doesn't have the stamina, most likely both.

This doesn't make sense bro.

Madridista · Feb 14, 2011

MilanMB said:
This doesn't make sense bro.

It doesn't make sense if you haven't seen him play. Since I saw him play, I know that at times, he does make decent sprints and runs with the ball. The problem is these are too rare and he doesnt make any effort to receive the ball in space, rather just stands at the top of the box and waits for the ball to be passed to him. Since he obviously CAN run, the only reasonable explanation is that he doesn't WANT to, and its most likely due to lack of endurance/stamina, or he doesn't want to feel pain in the knees, which he feels when he runs.

Sheva0172 · Feb 14, 2011

Immedeatly played a game of FIFA because it will probably be the last time i CAN play with O Fenomeno.

And yes, against a french gaylord with skill level 27 that chose Chelsea vs Corinthians this is his answer in the 82nd minute at a score of 1-1

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Farewell hero! Enjoy the cigars.

MilanMB · Feb 14, 2011

well, then he can't run... if he has pain and bad stamina.

MilanMB · Feb 14, 2011

One of the best ever. :star:

Sven · Feb 14, 2011

Madridista said:
It doesn't make sense if you haven't seen him play. Since I saw him play, I know that at times, he does make decent sprints and runs with the ball. The problem is these are too rare and he doesnt make any effort to receive the ball in space, rather just stands at the top of the box and waits for the ball to be passed to him. Since he obviously CAN run, the only reasonable explanation is that he doesn't WANT to, and its most likely due to lack of endurance/stamina, or he doesn't want to feel pain in the knees, which he feels when he runs.

lol so let me clear this: he can't run on a consistent basis, for an entire game, like a fotballer should be able to do in modern football.

Sven · Feb 14, 2011

MilanMB said:
One can only imagine what he could have done if he had a better attitude/more motivation during the end of his career and more luck with injuries during the beginning and middle.

I think people would take it easy with him if not for the fact that he is fat. His injuries, his age, all that would excuse an eventual drop of form. But this one shows a really bad attitude, it's not cool for his image, or for any professional footballer, to have a belly like this.

But from now on he deserves to be remembered for all his accomplishments.

Madridista · Feb 14, 2011

MilanMB said:
well, then he can't run... if he has pain and bad stamina.

There are extents to which you can play against the pain barrier. What I'm saying is could have done those rare runs more often, if he didnt want to avoid it due to pain/laziness, which coupled with the stamina issue turned him into a cone upfront for literally 99% of the time.

heres a comp of his last game (in the career too apparently), youll see what I mean

Madridista · Feb 14, 2011

Sven said:
lol so let me clear this: he can't run on a consistent basis, for an entire game, like a fotballer should be able to do in modern football.

why the lol, that is precisely it. If he pushed himself a little bit more he would have probably been much better, then again he probably would have injured himself and not played at all

Marcus · Feb 14, 2011

Man, he's big. Don't know how he went from the most athletic player in the world to the size of a cathedral.

Still, sad to see him gone. A huge player in our time, and a synonym for football during most of our lives.

Farewell, Ronaldo.

Mrk · Feb 14, 2011

Woah didn't realise how fat he was, no wonder he can't carry on playing!

Sad to see him retire, although he basically retired the day he went back to Brazil. Such a good player when he was thin and had desire, one of the best.

manutd fan · Feb 14, 2011

Just read a small story. Apparently at WC 98 Ronaldo walked into the press room and was hounded by about 100 people asking for interviews, pictures, autographs ect. He ignored every single one of them until at the end of the room he saw Sir Bobby Robson. He walked over, gave him a hug + had a long conversation with him.

Stranger · Feb 14, 2011

farewell the greatest player i ever witnessed :proud:

this is my fav jersey ever three versions 1998 2002 and 2006

manutd fan said:
Just read a small story. Apparently at WC 98 Ronaldo walked into the press room and was hounded by about 100 people asking for interviews, pictures, autographs ect. He ignored every single one of them until at the end of the room he saw Sir Bobby Robson. He walked over, gave him a hug + had a long conversation with him.

was his mentor at barca even he had a book on ronaldo i read it on the book shop itself , very small but i liked it :d

even the oh my god look on robson after that epic goal

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