I have nothing against baggio, was a great guy, but this just sounds ridiculous.zZ[-_-]Zz said:
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I didn't follow his career at all... not to the extend that I've become a mindless masturbator over everything 'Robby' at leastgaizka22 said:
Savicevic not a 'fantasista' ? And what was with Tabarez + Sacchi ? Did he fall out with them also ? I went to dig out stats, seems BottlinBaggio did actually accumulate a bit of playing time during his oh-so-unlucky spell @ Milan, aside from bench time, of course, he just didn't score many goals. If he had had a professional attitude + had been in top form, no coach would have ignored him, wouldn't you at least partially agree ? I mean, he was B's darling, wasn't he ? A gifted player, I won't deny that, but not getting on with Capello, Tabarez, Sacchi AND Lippi reeks of clashing egos more than anything…gaizka22 said:
You've always overestimated yourself. I think I didn't do too shabby considering English isn't my first language + I don't study creative writing... The only edge you ever had over me was probably the eloquence of your... insults. But that you had to resort to insults in pretty much every post, means I touched a nerve pretty often, you ran out of counter arguments pretty often + pretty often had nothing valid to say.savicevic10 said:I've always been able to slap you in any direction I've wanted to around here
Mindless masturbator? Let's just say I (and some of us here) know more about Baggio (not only in Milan but all his career) than you do and not having to resort to facts in web to get my point (there are others you will never learn from the web and can only get from watching the game). That is clear for all to see here.Passion for *9* said:I didn't follow his career at all... not to the extend that I've become a mindless masturbator over everything 'Robby' at least
It's clear for all to see that you + a bunch of others have put 'Roby' on a pedestal + can't accept opinions that dare to stray a little from your own. But, you don't own the truth, nor do you know 'everything' + what you know is 2nd hand crap from 2nd hand sources too + don't even try to tell me you watched all his games live in your neck of the woods + are therefore the authority on Baggio.…gaizka22 said:
If you want a retreat to worship your guru, start a Church of Baggio website. This thread is open to everyone, also to those who aren't into personalitycultish narrowmindedness. I'll have more to say on Baggio once I'm fit again. Whether you wannabe elitist punks consider my comments educated or pointless crap doesn't bother me in the least + has never stopped me from having an opiniongaizka22 said:
Of course we haven't read it. First because it's not available in my country, second because I don't know how to speak ItalianPassion for *9* said:
The book is not available here either, btw, but I know s.o. who knows s.o. who collects all kinds of football-related 'items' incl. books + just tried my luck + will hopefully find a copy in the mail next week. Oh, I have to read it with a dictionary within easy reach, my Italian isn't all that... I thought for true fans the language barrier would be such a minor annoyance, what was I thinking ?gaizka22 said:Of course we haven't read it. First because it's not available in my country, second because I don't know how to speak Italian
Make no mistake, I may have played.. not with dolls but with a tennis racket... when you were 'big enough boys' already to follow his career, but it doesn't mean I'm totally clueless. Your overall arrogant attitude towards s.o. whose fault it is to be a bit younger than you old farts isn't too becoming of a mod, esp. of a mod who I thought was a moderate mod... Furthermore, what makes you think my intention is to trash him ? Oh, I said pathetic book, right, well, publishing an autobiography before the end of one's career is a bit pathetic in my books.gaizka22 said:
That's the whole point that I am trying to make here, we should not judge a player when we only see some portion of his playing career or not really following his career even if we do watch football when he was around. You make a judgement based on your observation when it is clear that you haven't followed his whole career.Passion for *9* said:
Well, let's just say we are so used to your style and modus operandi.Passion for *9* said:
If not mistaken the book was published sometime before the WC 02 (correct me if I'm wrong here). In the book Baggio was trashing his previous coaches (Lippi and Capello in particular) but he refrained from saying anything on Trappatoni because he was still hoping to get into the WC squad. True, publishing a book before his playing career ends is pathetic but publishing a book if you're a player with skills and achievement like Baggio after more than 15 years of playing in high level soccer is justifiable.Passion for *9* said:
He published a follow-up called "Una porta nel cielo" - Il sogno dopo" or sth in 03 + this is hopefully the edition I'll be getting my hands on because it contains "Una porta nel cielo" AND a 'new' post-WC chapter blasting Trapattoni (after all the sucking up he had done before... sweetgaizka22 said:
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