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ShevaDaniel · Jul 29, 2014

he took nets to 2 finals.and he was named coach of the year.

Redman10 · Jul 30, 2014

Scott brooks took OKC to a finals and he isn't any good either.

Ashish · Jul 30, 2014

Rose hype begins what's wrong in trading rose for love :conf:

Spurs opening at Cleveland fuck Adam silver. Pop please sit the starting and second team

Senatore_M84 · Jul 30, 2014

ShevaDaniel said:
he took nets to 2 finals.and he was named coach of the year.

That was all jkidd, a weak east and a big market bias

See rose mvp

Senatore_M84 · Jul 30, 2014

Ashish said:
Rose hype begins what's wrong in trading rose for love

Spurs opening at Cleveland fuck Adam silver. Pop please sit the starting and second team

In theory I agree with you

Except problem is chi has 4 starting quality bigs and no pg lol

Not to mention rose is Chicagos local son. It'd be mutiny

Ashish · Jul 30, 2014

Yay a point guard winning a MVP. NBA should be slapped what cock was that.

Senatore_M84 · Jul 30, 2014

There's a chance NYK will start a lineup where Melo is the best defender

Truly impressive

Zen master

Madridista · Jul 30, 2014

dying of laugher

G.Costanza · Aug 1, 2014

A question for Ashish: How much do you love Boris Diaw

Senatore_M84 · Aug 1, 2014

MarioReality · Aug 2, 2014

How's Paul George's leg w the bone sticking out?

Fucks sakes... brutal.

jawz10 · Aug 2, 2014

FUUUUUUUUUCK.

Feel so bad for PG. Pacers are screwed this year.

Senatore_M84 · Aug 2, 2014

Feel for PG.

The worst part of that Paul George injury. It was a full effort defensive play. What every coach loves and what makes him great. Not fair

Like that was a play only a handful of people can or even try to make. And a piece of equipment just wrong place, wrong time

The Black Pearl · Aug 2, 2014

Too bad. The best perimeter defender in the league imo. I hope he will come back soon.

AndreiX · Aug 2, 2014

That hurt to watch, shit....
That leg is fucked...

G.Costanza · Aug 2, 2014

Feel shitty for PG, hope he gets better soon. Indiana don't deserve him and he don't deserve this shitty injury.

Senatore_M84 · Aug 2, 2014

Tim S. Grover @ATTACKATHLETICS · 29m
Probable Paul George timetable: 3-4 months:cast. Walk: 6mos. Run: 9mos. Plyo:11mos. Bball activities: 12mos. Mental return? No timetable.

Grover is famous trainer...worked /w MJ, Wade, Kobe.

The silver lining is bones breaking>tendon tears. It's just a long road. But much less chance of complication of decline in terms of athleticism/mobility.

Senatore_M84 · Aug 2, 2014

The Black Pearl said:
Too bad. The best perimeter defender in the league imo. I hope he will come back soon.

He's up there. He's a monster on D and a good offensive player.

What's F'd is i was texting my close friend about him 2-5 mins before he tore it. Playing that hypothetical would you trade Klay and Iguodala for PG game

The Black Pearl · Aug 4, 2014

I would trade klay and iggy for pg who is 24 years old. Iggy isnt so young anymore. Pg is great, among the best defensivley and very good in offense, just like u said. But on the other hand gsw have barnescas well. Maybe i need to think that trade some more lol. Awful injury i was shocked when i saw it.

Ashish · Aug 4, 2014

http://www.csnne.com/page/exclusive-im-coming-home-brian-scalabrine-0

Ashish · Aug 4, 2014

Alan Shore said:
A question for Ashish: How much do you love Boris Diaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkrccHEAqg&t=0m16s

“When I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven in the age of the romantics.”

Redman10 · Aug 4, 2014

PG for Klay and Iggy isn't a good deal. I take PG over both players individually but unless another decent piece goes to Golden State, I wouldn't pull the trigger.

The Black Pearl · Aug 5, 2014

Ashish said:
http://www.csnne.com/page/exclusive-im-coming-home-brian-scalabrine-0

Scalabrine, my favorite cheerleader of all the time. Whenever i turned the game on and saw scalabrine on court, i knew celtics were up by 20, without looking the scoreboard lol. He s a symbol of good news for me.

#vanillagodzila

Senatore_M84 · Aug 5, 2014

Redman10 said:
PG for Klay and Iggy isn't a good deal. I take PG over both players individually but unless another decent piece goes to Golden State, I wouldn't pull the trigger.

i mean it's that total hypothetical discussed amount friends.

You could say GSW having Barnes (who' been at best inconsistent), Draymond Green (Savior/hero), Shaun Livingston and Brandon Rush (who is he plays anything like he did pre-injury is possibnly our best bench wing) have more than enough wing depth to cover a 2 for 1 trade.

Weirdly PG is the youngest player of the 3, even if it's only by 3 months v. klay

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It's all moot, but consistent PG and Iguodala are hands down league's best defensive wings. Both are closest things i've seen to Pippen in terms of versitility and ability.

when motivated LBJ is in that category, but considering load he carried last 2 years on offense yeah.

Obviously Butler, Tony Allen, Deng, Kawhi and others are great too. But i would say outside Kawhi (who might be PG/Iguodala level defensively)they are a little more limited

Ashish · Aug 5, 2014

Whats your starting five + 2 man rotation senatore?

Does shaun spare curry from all the ball handling responsibilities ?

Do you have any other alternative than Lee at 4?

Barnes seems like a bust Now

Senatore_M84 · Aug 5, 2014

By the way, i wish i could find complete sequence to this play but i can't. It shows 2 things to me....

1. Why Curry is probably 3rd best offensive impact in nba and 2. Why he isn't.

Curry was killing indy till they searched George onto him. George's size, speed and defensive instincts rendered curry shut down because he's a good 6-7 inches taller and longer.

HOWEVER... they HAD to put George on him cause no point an guard curry.

This forced George hill (a great defender but still 6ft2) to guarD Klay thompson. Klay took him to town because of size edge.

Curry can embarass a lot of people bigger than him and damn good defenders. Shawn Marion etc. BUT he still does have legit size limitations, stuff you wouldn't see be an issue for LBj, Kobe and wings who you can't really deny a look cause of their size/strength.

That's why i put curry in Nash category of he could theoretically be best player on a title team or atleast driving force, but he can't really be only one cause of physical limitations. He can't do what lbj or dirk or someone can. He sort of needs to be a 1a w/ a 1b.

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In a sense i get why GSW didn't trade Klay but not giving upo Klay for Love is also stupid cause Love could potentially be the 1a/b guy with him and form the core of a title contender for years to come.

At same time....you o that you're stuck. And not doing it gave GSW options over next year to make a move.

Senatore_M84 · Aug 5, 2014

Ashish said:
Whats your starting five + 2 man rotation senatore?

Does shaun spare curry from all the ball handling responsibilities ?

Do you have any other alternative than Lee at 4?

Barnes seems like a bust Now

I'm optimistic in a new system Barnes will find a level of production. What that level is, im not sure (is he just a nice 15-20 minute bench player? Is he more? We'll see)

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Rotation will likely go like this when healthy minute distribution wise (give or take):

Curry- 35 mpg
Klay- 34 mpg,
Iguodala- 32 mpg
Lee- 30 mpg
Bogut- 26 mpg

(Bogut will be on a leash to stay healthy for playoffs.)
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Livingston will get probably 21 or so mpg, he'll spell curry and because of his size/versitility will play SOME next to him). He is 6ft7 w/ a 6ft11 wingspan and started at SG in brooklyn.

Draymond Green will see backup PF mins, where i prefer him. He was a big reason GSw almost beat clippers. in 4 games he started he really got to blake. in 3 games Lee guarded Griffin, 27.7 ppg, 61.6%, in 4 games draymond did, 20 ppg, 46.4%.

Lee will pop to C for some mins w/ Draymond at 4 in a small ball lineup v. smaller back up units.

Festus Ezeli is back and will give us 10-15 mpg at back up C. Solid defensive player. Limited otherwise. If he expangs game we'll see more of him but i'm not hopeful.

Barnes will eat back upwing mins w/ potentially rush depending on how he looks too.

my guess is bench distribution will be:

Livingston- 21mpg,
Barnes- 22 mpg
Draymond- 26 mpg
Festus- 14 mpg

Rush- 3 and D potential depending how his knee is now.

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I like our depth, but Kerr and co. need to mix and match better than jackson. We lost SO MANY GAMES by bad substitution patters. I can't even begin. We had worst bench +/- and he never though to use lee or klay w/ them like say how spurs use manu or someone more talented to help second unit.

We are thin upfront imo because of Bogut's concenrs

Ashish · Aug 5, 2014

what about playoffs? are you guys going to play david lee for 30 minutes :lol:

If somebody put a bigger guard on curry can klay offset currys offense? maybe iggy can be better as an attacker

Senatore_M84 · Aug 5, 2014

Ashish said:
what about playoffs? are you guys going to play david lee for 30 minutes

If somebody put a bigger guard on curry can klay offset currys offense? maybe iggy can be better as an attacker

i wouldn't mind it to be honest.

I wrote some stuff on how we need to move Lee to 6th man ala manu for 2 seasons.

1. Age is slowly setting in. He is in great shape b ut wear and tear os eason, 36 mpg is not possible way it was 2 years ago.

bigger reason:
2. He's ONLY guy on GSW who doesn't take a complete f'n nose dive efficiency wise w/o Curry. Everyone else is fodder w/o Steph setting them up. He gets his points at same pace w/ or w/o steph.

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Iggy and SDot can handle and attack. Klay si improving.

The idea is more ball movement and getting ball out of Curry's hands like Gentry did w/ Nash and CP3. Basically make us less predictable

here's a good look at basis of kerr's offense from summer league:

I liked most of it, except for big's shooting

Ashish · Aug 5, 2014

Senatore_M84 said:
i wouldn't mind it to be honest.

I wrote some stuff on how we need to move Lee to 6th man ala manu for 2 seasons.

1. Age is slowly setting in. He is in great shape b ut wear and tear os eason, 36 mpg is not possible way it was 2 years ago.

bigger reason:
2. He's ONLY guy on GSW who doesn't take a complete f'n nose dive efficiency wise w/o Curry. Everyone else is fodder w/o Steph setting them up. He gets his points at same pace w/ or w/o steph.

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Iggy and SDot can handle and attack. Klay si improving.

The idea is more ball movement and getting ball out of Curry's hands like Gentry did w/ Nash and CP3. Basically make us less predictable

here's a good look at basis of kerr's offense from summer league:

I liked most of it, except for big's shooting

Irony

why wouldnt anybody trade for Love? :eek:

nice video

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