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YUP! lets hope we win the scudetto.
At least Sheva won't be out for too long,the only good news from this game!Cescania said:Nothing Serious For Injured Shevchenko
1/31/2005 3:18:00 PM www.goal.com
Good news for AC Milan as they will only have to do without their superstar striker Andriy Shevchenko for two weeks.
The diagnosis was confirmed by Rossonero team doctor Massimilano Sala after he performed an MRI on Shevchenko’s right tibia, that suffered a small hole in its muscle following a harsh tackle by Bologna defender Gamberini during yesterday’s clash between the two Serie A sides.
Shevchenko is expected to return for the Reggina-Milan clash set to played on February 13th.
A sigh of relief~
Get well soon, our best striker.
savicevic10 said:No offence, but do you not think you're being a bit of a baby.
Kyara said:Another Sunday, another disappointment, another idiot in a referee's disguise and another 3 points to break our hearts ... But the ultimate heart break is Sheva's injury ...
If Livorno's match wasn't shocking enough for Milan, I think yesterday was a great slap to our "winning ways" Honestly I'm tired of continuous accusations with no real analysis to what the problem is, so I'll stop the finger-pointing right here and go back 2 years in time ...
- 2002-2003:
We had a strong team, though ironically not strong enough against small teams in the league, so what was our problem? No wingers ... We didn't have neither an LB nor a RB who can create chances from the flanks, our attempts were all concentrated in the centre and that's obvioulsy not the brightest way to break through the 10 man defenses in Serie A ... That year we were close, but we could not win the scudetto ...
- 2003-2004:
Milan bring in Pancaro and Cafu, two experienced wingers whom the management trusted to solve our frustrations on the sides ... The season started and along started Cafu and Pancaro to impress, especially with the arrival of Kaká whose 1 on 1 passes with Cafu seemed to be the heavenly solution for Milan's previously paralized midfield ... With Sheva upfront bombing the opponents' nets, Kaká's magical assists and Maldini-Nesta at the back, Milan seemed to be the dream team for every fan and every coach and were able to win the title with a one-in-a-lifetime points record ...
-2004-2005:
"We are the champions", "we fear no one", season started with we this, we that, a Super Coppa win and God bless the days of humility
- First match, disappointment? Third match, disappointment? 4 defeats, 6 draws and 12 wins doesn't sound very normal now for a team that was once called a dream team ... Take a look at these numbers and it won't sound too disastrous, but the fact that it is when you're trying to catch up with Capello's Juve ...
Who made the difference last year? Was it Cafu, Kaká, Pancaro or them all? Was it the strong determination and spirit we saw in every match, whose absence in one match against Depor costed us the Champions League?
I don't think a player will grow 'too old' in 2-3 months time and his age will all of the sudden start to affect his performance ... If they were able to pull out that performance last year then they'd definitely be able to do it this year as well, only if they have the strong will and desire to ... I no longer see the 1 on 1 passing between Kaká and Cafu, I no longer see Trilly's clever long chippers, I no longer see Kaká's long rocket-like shots which saved us many times last year, I no longer see Rino's die hard defense and I no longer see the Milan I saw last year ... As ironic as this may seem, the only one who seems to be desperate to prove himself is Dhorasoo and who undoubtedly deserves a starting position from now on ...
I don't think it's too late to wake up from the "we are the champions" comma and realize that there's a problem ... I don't think it's too late to stop Gobbi from yet another trophy to add to their endless titles ... I don't think 8 points is too much as we still have 17 weeks to go ... But let it be known that if we REALLY want this year's title, we ought to begin working this very minute, starting from management to coach and players ... They can achieve something if they want it from their hearts and work on it accordingly, but only IF ...
And who said that Sheva will be out for the rest of the season? Sheva will be fine En Sha Allah, just keep the faith ...
FORZA MILAN!!!
FORZA SHEVA!!!
Great post, but I would also like to know your opinion about our "transfers" of Stam and Crespo. I personally think that Stam will never fit in Milan's defence and I can't really say anything about Crespo because I don't know if Milan will buy him or not.Kyara said:-2004-2005:
"We are the champions", "we fear no one"
That's something I was discussing with my bro a few days ago, the teams are accustomed to our style ... It takes an extensive defense with extra fast counter attacks and continuous smart fouls to break the mentality of our team ... Against Bologna, with Serginho on the left, their job became a lot easier to start their attempts from our left flank ... One thing I like about Sergio is his crossing, it seems to me Cafu and Pirlo haven't played a decent cross for ages, whereas last year we found the net so many times through headers ... Even set pieces aren't taken advantage of, corners easily wasted and Pirlo's freekicks not as accurate as before ...savicevic10 said:Like the 2003 team, it took one smallish team to stop us and everybody else got the hint and we ended that season terribly. I think it was Chievo in that season and this year it seems Palermo gave everybody else a lesson on how you stop us.
It just seems we've left nothing as a surprise now. People have grown accustomed to Kaka and Pirlo especially, we always start with two forwards, last year we played great with one up front and just as that was looking predictable, the Lecce game and the first half of the derby, we went back with two.
Against MU we ought to be very careful with set pieces and headers, that's their strength and our weakness it seems ...savicevic10 said:The ManU game which comes at the end of the month, I am getting a sense that we should not play Pirlo at Old Trafford. He is a huge strength to our game, but when we play a team of pace and fire from England away from home, I fear a Depor with him. Ambrosini at Old Trafford and Pirlo at the San Siro.
Stam's adaption with the rest of the defenders was unfortunately affected by his injury ... His performances in the very few matches before his absence were actually starting to impress me, but sadly the injury stopped him ... To be honest, I can't state a final judgement on a player after about 4 appearances in the league ... All I can say that he's not super, but he's not too bad either and needs some more time and confidence to adapt to the defense, 'cause in the last match I felt that him and Capitano weren't that comfortable together in the centre ...r3dman said:Great post, but I would also like to know your opinion about our "transfers" of Stam and Crespo. I personally think that Stam will never fit in Milan's defence and I can't really say anything about Crespo because I don't know if Milan will buy him or not.
17 weeks left, where's your spirit?YUGOSLAVIAN said:Arivederrcci scudetto !!!
Ciaooooo Carlo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kyara said:17 weeks left, where's your spirit?
FORZA MILAN!!!
YUGOSLAVIAN said:Arivederrcci scudetto !!!
Ciaooooo Carlo!!!!!!!!!!!!
you mean a football team only wins footbal when they have a surprise.okey next game play brocchiIt just seems we've left nothing as a surprise now. People have grown accustomed to Kaka and Pirlo especially
redondo, u are incomparableredondo said:like my old friend savicvicec10 said
YUGOSLAVIAN said:Arivederrcci scudetto !!!
Ciaooooo Carlo!!!!!!!!!!!!
we have big chances nowYUGOSLAVIAN said:Arivederrcci scudetto !!!
Ciaooooo Carlo!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, all polemics about retirement homes + deals aside for a bit - isn't all that 'analysis' old news ? I recall many discussions of Milan's lack of width back then, of Milan's slow, strictly central buildup (the name Jankulovski was first tossed into our discussions in 2003), the ups + downs of Rui's form (will he ever score ? etc) etc. And I can't help but being surprised how little has been done in the meantime to address + mend said weakness. Sure, we have Kaka' as our 'prodigy' + heir to Rui, we have Pancaro and Cafu, 2 players in the twilight of their career who have certainly done their utmost in adding a new dimension to our play. Notwithstanding their success last season I had my doubts regarding their longevity, they would serve as temporary patch ups at best, for 1 season, maybe 2. It's their 2nd season with us, + the worries of us doubters have proven justified + valid - we already seem back at square one (Cafu has had quite a few off matches this season + Pancaro is a joke) + the issue of width will have to be addressed again in the summer. Should we really land Jankulovski he will be 29 by then... Ok, I stop alreadykyara said:Honestly I'm tired of continuous accusations with no real analysis to what the problem is, so I'll stop the finger-pointing right here and go back 2 years in time …
I think that's a bit of 'naïve thinking' by people our age Losing the touch can happen dramatically fast, literally overnight, once s.o. has hit the wrong side of 30, or even earlier. Zizou, Rivaldo, del Piero, our very own Pancaro (maybe as a result of his injury/surgery) + also Stam come to mind...kyara said:I don't think a player will grow 'too old' in 2-3 months time and his age will all of the sudden start to affect his performance ... If they were able to pull out that performance last year then they'd definitely be able to do it this year as well, only if they have the strong will and desire to …
Lil off-topic: I'm always slightly amused when forum members scold other forum members for their lack of hope + support. Critical comments, completely justified after a bad match, IMO are motivating, not discouraging.kyara said:I don't think it's too late to wake up from the "we are the champions" comma and realize that there's a problem ... I don't think it's too late to stop Gobbi from yet another trophy to add to their endless titles ... I don't think 8 points is too much as we still have 17 weeks to go ... But let it be known that if we REALLY want this year's title, we ought to begin working this very minute, starting from management to coach and players ... They can achieve something if they want it from their hearts and work on it accordingly, but only IF …
He is, and that's sad enough. Sad enough for more than one reason:savicevic10 said:Cafu's form is certainly a major factor. He IS our width.
I'm certainly with you regarding adding some young blood to our team, especially for LB and RB positions and Marek MUST be in our squad this summer ... What I was talking about in the post above, however, is the current time after the transfer markets closed its doors ... Right now those are our only players, regardless of how old they are, and the ones we should trust and depend on if we don't wanna let this title slip yet again ... I'm not really sure about Pancaro with the injuries as you mentioned, but as far as Cafu's concerned I think that he still has a lot to offer and that was obvious against Messina and the minutes he played against Lazio ... With Carletto's new 3-4-1-2 formation, which could and should be used against small teams in my opinion, Cafu will not have to go to the far back as much as he does in the 4-3-1-2 formation because there will be 3 covering at the back ... He will still be helping with the defense on the right flank of course, but it would not require the so-much effort he makes going back and forth all the time ... Sergio can take over the left flank instead of Seedorf in this case, although Sergio himself is rather moody as well, but against the boring defensive tactics, this could be pretty useful ...Passion for *9* said:OK, all polemics about retirement homes + deals aside for a bit - isn't all that 'analysis' old news ? I recall many discussions of Milan's lack of width back then, of Milan's slow, strictly central buildup (the name Jankulovski was first tossed into our discussions in 2003), the ups + downs of Rui's form (will he ever score ? etc) etc. And I can't help but being surprised how little has been done in the meantime to address + mend said weakness. Sure, we have Kaka' as our 'prodigy' + heir to Rui, we have Pancaro and Cafu, 2 players in the twilight of their career who have certainly done their utmost in adding a new dimension to our play. Notwithstanding their success last season I had my doubts regarding their longevity, they would serve as temporary patch ups at best, for 1 season, maybe 2. It's their 2nd season with us, + the worries of us doubters have proven justified + valid - we already seem back at square one (Cafu has had quite a few off matches this season + Pancaro is a joke) + the issue of width will have to be addressed again in the summer. Should we really land Jankulovski he will be 29 by then... Ok, I stop already
I think that's a bit of 'naïve thinking' by people our age Losing the touch can happen dramatically fast, literally overnight, once s.o. has hit the wrong side of 30, or even earlier. Zizou, Rivaldo, del Piero, our very own Pancaro (maybe as a result of his injury/surgery) + also Stam come to mind...
With this in mind, + also taking into account that Pancaro's and Cafu's scope isn't as limited as that of a static central defender, the form slump doesn't appear so inexplicably surprising anymore.
I'm cautiously optimistic both will manage to retrieve last years form temporarily (Cafu at least had a good match again against Messina), but we should be prepared to find their in-form intervals to become shorter.
Another aspect that tends to be overlooked in this context is how the wear + tear due to injuries + lengthy recuperation affects s.o. physically as well as mentally. Not only does your body's capacity to regenerate decrease, you also become more aware and protective of your body + maybe avoid situations as simple as the proverbial wrong step that could put an abrupt end to your career. Some 20 or 25-year old wouldn't even waste a single thought on this and go for the kamikaze tackle or bicycle kick acrobatics, you hardly ever see a 35-year old equally daring
So if our senior players are in need of a break to recharge their battery + regain their form they should be provided by the club with an opportunity to do so while our capable + well-balanced 2nd string should take over. Unfortunately the management has given little thought to all the eventualities that can be encountered throughout a season, that's why we find our 2nd string in a state of imbalance or even non-existence (right flank).
Milan's current policy of extending contracts of 34-year olds is really hard to fathom. You might not win trophies with a team full of 20-year olds, but a team of 30somethings won't win anything either. You can't forever compensate decreasing fitness, sharpness, velocity etc with experience or willpower.