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Because in 433 you need wingers... pacey ones especially.. tell me a single top team in world football who have two slow wingers in their starting 11?.
We need suso back up AND a starting LW + CM, LB you name it

We won´t be a top team next season, but I would not mind a LW and a RW.

A player who is a bit more of a central player can be beneficial at LW too, Serie A is more allowing to slow play and rewards presence in the box.
Especially Bonaventura with his strong heading and good instincts excels at shifting into a CF-position.

We should not make too many transfers, no need to ruin another season that way.
 

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sell silva=buy reus
sell kalinic+niang=buy belotti
sell bonaventura=buy a lcm
take money out of your ass and buy chiesa who can play both rw, lw
sell antonelli+abate=bring in a new lb

team set, team upgraded
Sounds good except that Bonaventura part. Upgrading him? If we have the money why not. But selling him? He's doing very good these days, wins a lot of balls back in midfield (actually more than Kessie if you look at stats of past few weeks), he makes clever runs into the box and scores. I even think he upgraded his dribbling a lot and uses them more efficiently. And then it's very difficult to take him the ball away without fouling him.

And he's an Italian and seems to have establisged himself as one of our leaders.

Atm, I see very little reason for selling him.

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Sounds good except that Bonaventura part. Upgrading him? If we have the money why not. But selling him? He's doing very good these days, wins a lot of balls back in midfield (actually more than Kessie if you look at stats of past few weeks), he makes clever runs into the box and scores. I even think he upgraded his dribbling a lot and uses them more efficiently. And then it's very difficult to take him the ball away without fouling him.

And he's an Italian and seems to have establisged himself as one of our leaders.

Atm, I see very little reason for selling him.

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Bona would probably bring like 20m or so on the market, he is not really a hyped player. Replacing him would cost like 30-40m and upgrading him like 40-60m, makes no sense to to sell him + there are many worse players in our starting XI.
 

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What's with the Reus posting? Seriously? Man has played 1 game this entire season. How about we look for people with working legs instead of walking medical studies?
 

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Sounds good except that Bonaventura part. Upgrading him? If we have the money why not. But selling him? He's doing very good these days, wins a lot of balls back in midfield (actually more than Kessie if you look at stats of past few weeks), he makes clever runs into the box and scores. I even think he upgraded his dribbling a lot and uses them more efficiently. And then it's very difficult to take him the ball away without fouling him.

And he's an Italian and seems to have establisged himself as one of our leaders.

Atm, I see very little reason for selling him.

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all these are good reasons to raise his price
i hope managers from other teams take notice on that.
 

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iturbe for lw plz mirabelli
 

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Happy birthday Lucas Biglia


He looks so young for a 36 y/old.
 

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Milan cant spent so much man...

Selling Gomez (4), Antonelli (3), Abate (3), Montolivo (2), Mauri (2), Silva/Kalinic 40/25), Berto (10), Bacca (15), Niang (12) will give us between 80 and 100 m. Not saying this is going to happen, but the spending would be no more than 50-60 m from our own budget. Also, some of these have huge salaries that will free more room for spending.
 

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Selling Gomez (4), Antonelli (3), Abate (3), Montolivo (2), Mauri (2), Silva/Kalinic 40/25), Berto (10), Bacca (15), Niang (12) will give us between 80 and 100 m. Not saying this is going to happen, but the spending would be no more than 50-60 m from our own budget. Also, some of these have huge salaries that will free more room for spending.

Who would pay for Abate, Antonelli or Monto? The best offer we would get is that someone takes them for free and we don´t have to pay compensation for the wages.

Also this type of thinking fucked us over in summer, if we change 7 players agains the drama will likely start again.
 

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no we ll sell 7 players
we ll bring in 3
4 maximum
we are overcrowded

We have

3 GK
5 FBs
5 CBs (+Gabbia?)
5,5 CM-ish players
1.5 LW/LAMs
1 RW/RAM
3 CF
1 Allrounder

Depth in defense is perfect in terms of the number of players we have, depth in attack is thin.
Instead of reducing the squad size we should actually add 1-2 players in total.
 

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Squad size

Milan: 29
Inter: 23
Juve: 25
Napoli: 24
Roma: 24
 

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I think we do not need that much to be able to reach the title for next season.
We literally need:
Big name coach
LW - Fekir (50 m)
CF - Belotti (50 m)
DM - Torreira (30 m)
LB for rotation with RR (10 m)
2 bench players for 10 m total

LW and a CM should be the priorities for the starting XI. Maybe a CF to pair up with Cutrone should both Silva and Kalinic get sold. Then we will need some smaller depth signings like a reserve RW, a few mids and a few CBs (should guys like Musacchio, Zapata, Gomez leave).
 

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Squad size

Milan: 29
Inter: 23
Juve: 25
Napoli: 24
Roma: 24

29 includes the not registered players like Vhergara and Oduamadi or Mastour whos contract ends in summer.

The official squad has 26 players: https://www.acmilan.com/it/squadre/prima-squadra

We always had like 27 players and with our history of our FBs being injured we need that size, other teams might plan with 1-2 FBs less.
 
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Who would pay for Abate, Antonelli or Monto? The best offer we would get is that someone takes them for free and we don´t have to pay compensation for the wages.

Also this type of thinking fucked us over in summer, if we change 7 players agains the drama will likely start again.

The majority of money from sales would come from possible names being rumored to leave: Silva, Donnarumma, Suso or Kalinic. Then the money from the obligation of Niang from Torino and Villarreal will probably redeem Bacca. Everyone else is close to worthless in a sale.
 

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What's with the Reus posting? Seriously? Man has played 1 game this entire season. How about we look for people with working legs instead of walking medical studies?

Has to be some sort of elaborate troll. Or maybe he's still healthy in FIFA.
 

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GEOTUS as our RW would be interesting. Suso is one bad hombre, don't get me wrong, but with Trump we'd have the nuclear option. Not to mention building a wall to prevent crosses at our Southern border.

Maybe our backline might be a little vulnerable to CSKA and other Russian attacks but we'll more than make up for it with the increased spending on defense.....that is provided of course, that F&M are not part of a Chinese hoax :head:

I'm here all day guys :tongue:
 

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GEOTUS as our RW would be interesting. Suso is one bad hombre, don't get me wrong, but with Trump we'd have the nuclear option. Not to mention building a wall to prevent crosses at our Southern border.

Maybe our backline might be a little vulnerable to CSKA and other Russian attacks but we'll more than make up for it with the increased spending on defense.....that is provided of course, that F&M are not part of a Chinese hoax :head:

I'm here all day guys :tongue:

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We have

3 GK
5 FBs
5 CBs (+Gabbia?)
5,5 CM-ish players
1.5 LW/LAMs
1 RW/RAM
3 CF
1 Allrounder

Depth in defense is perfect in terms of the number of players we have, depth in attack is thin.
Instead of reducing the squad size we should actually add 1-2 players in total.

man city has 21 players in total....just saying

all top teams have 21-24 players..

ofc we need to downsize squad
 

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man city has 21 players in total....just saying

all top teams have 21-24 players..

ofc we need to downsize squad

But where should we downsize it?

In theory we could do with less FBs but they are always injured.

Mauri should be replaced with a better CM but the total number of midfielders is not high.

3 CFs are also kinda normal, selling one and replacing him with someone who can play on the wings could be an option. Some top teams like Real or Bayern have a low number of CFs in the squad but I don´t think that´s necessarily a good decision and they have attackers who can fill in central which Suso or Hakan can´t.

If Gabbia stays one CB should leave, we don´t need 6 CBs but having 5 CBs is quite normal, it´s a position where you don´t want to improvise and we have no DM who is able to play CB.
 
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But where should we downsize it?

In theory we could do with less FBs but they are always injured.

Mauri should be replaced with a better CM but the total number of midfielders is not high.

3 CFs are also kinda normal, selling one and replacing him with someone who can play on the wings could be an option. Some top teams like Real or Bayern have a low number of CFs in the squad but I don´t think that´s necessarily a good decision and they have attackers who can fill in central which Suso or Hakan can´t.

If Gabbia stays one CB should leave, we don´t need 6 CBs but 5 CBs is quite normal, it´s a position where you don´t want to improvise and we have no DM who is able to play CB.

we need to downsize gks
cbs
have 4 fbs(the other if needed during season coming from primavera, its ridiculous to pay abate 2.5m/year to be third option for rb...)
sell botth mauri and bonaventura and buy one efficient lcm
sell one of 3 strikers and buy one winger/inside forward
 

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But where should we downsize it?

In theory we could do with less FBs but they are always injured.

Mauri should be replaced with a better CM but the total number of midfielders is not high.

3 CFs are also kinda normal, selling one and replacing him with someone who can play on the wings could be an option. Some top teams like Real or Bayern have a low number of CFs in the squad but I don´t think that´s necessarily a good decision and they have attackers who can fill in central which Suso or Hakan can´t.

If Gabbia stays one CB should leave, we don´t need 6 CBs but 5 CBs is quite normal, it´s a position where you don´t want to improvise and we have no DM who is able to play CB.

We dont need 3 gks. We need 2 + primavera for sub or in case of bigger injury we buy in next transfer market or sign free agent.

We need max 4 CB's. One for rotation and another for sub if someone gets injured.

We need 4 FB's. One left, one right, one who can rotate on both wings and another one either left or right. In case of injury those few minutes a primavera player should take.

In center midfield we need 4 strong players (atm Kess, Bigli, Jack and Loca, which mean Montoleavo is surplus and Mauri is just a bench warmer) who would rotate. Maybe one more for the bench. Again in case of injuries we have primavera.

Attack is different. Should have at least 3 wingers and 2 complete forwards. Maybe another forward who can play everything up front (something like Borini, but better).

So that sums up about 20 players.

We have too many players atm.
 

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we need to downsize gks
cbs
have 4 fbs(the other if needed during season coming from primavera, its ridiculous to pay abate 2.5m/year to be third option for rb...)
sell botth mauri and bonaventura and buy one efficient lcm
sell one of 3 strikers and buy one winger/inside forward

What do you have against Bonaventura, he is one of the few players who can actually cover multiple positions, if you want less players he is the last one I´d sell.

Reducing the number of FBs for the sake of having less players while needing the current number for several years now isn´t really tempting. I think we have to agree to disagree here.

Winger/inside forward would be a good idea, especially if Silva leaves as he is our more technical option.

GK depends. I rather pay Storari than having a talent as 3rd option where he has almost no chances to get minutes.
If Plizzari can realistically challenge the reserve keepers for 2nd releasing one would make sense in my opinion.
 

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Why would anyone want to sell bonaventura?
Sign a better lcm and let him rotate with that player. He is a valuable to us.
 

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storari1m
abate 2.5m
antonelli 1.5m
gomez 1m
jose mauri 1.4m
montolivo 2.5m
kalinic 3.5m or a silva 2m
we pay way too much wages for players who are surplus and many of them rarely even play.
 

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What do you have against Bonaventura, he is one of the few players who can actually cover multiple positions, if you want less players he is the last one I´d sell.

Reducing the number of FBs for the sake of having less players while needing the current number for several years now isn´t really tempting. I think we have to agree to disagree here.

Winger/inside forward would be a good idea, especially if Silva leaves as he is our more technical option.

GK depends. I rather pay Storari than having a talent as 3rd option where he has almost no chances to get minutes.
If Plizzari can realistically challenge the reserve keepers for 2nd releasing one would make sense in my opinion.

nothing personal against him
he is one of the best in terms of skill (that says a lot about our squad though...) but like menez in the past when he was the most skilled player in the squad he doesnt help the team...
also he is one of the few that can bring in a good amount of money if we sell him, and considering that we dont have infinite money we ll need that money to cover other needs. he has certain ceiling and we need a far better player in his position.

also from your way of thinking i can see you are way too influenced from :g: era
many many top teams, which actually competed on all fronts managed to finish seasons with less back ups that what we have all these seasons and what you mentioned...we need to raise the quality of our squad not the number...

having players like antonelli who is unprofessional and is available 20% of the games(though paying him 1.5m...) doesnt make us better covered than having a primavera backup

edit: f+m started a good job offloading deadwood.i hope they continue like this and have a squad willing to play and not just grape their fat wages..
 
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