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Old 14-07-2020, 08:58   #581
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how much money we spent?? 35-38?
add piatek
leo great SD.
both looked as great deals initially and per their performance in the first 6 months


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Old 14-07-2020, 10:17   #582
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both looked as great deals initially and per their performance in the first 6 months
Piatek? Sure. Even a bargain.

Paqueta was a very welcomed addition because we finally had someone to replace an injured Bona.
The expectations were also low because he had just arrived to a new team, new league, new country, new continent from a full season in the Brazilian league. Excuses were made for his pace, stamina and passing tempo issues, which 19 months later hasn't improved one bit.

Still he was alright in his first games, filling Bona's void, allowing Rino to move Hakan back to the attack and he even scored a goal, which is his first and only goal in the Milan shirt.
However the shitshow began way before Giampaolo. People seem to have forgotten how useless he was for Rino after February.
He missed a few games due to an injury, but even more games due to suspensions. The team broke out of the slump and finished the season on a high without him.


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Old 14-07-2020, 11:03   #583
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both looked as great deals initially and per their performance in the first 6 months
i remember well piatek goals against napoli in coppa that give us some boost
and even more important 2 goals (magic one especially) vs atalanta that keep us mentally in the run for top4 till the end

point is we are wasting money on the players and next year we are in position where we look for next because previous were not good enough - we just wasting so much time on attack department and each time looks like we are in same year zero position.
same goes to rcb...


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Old 14-07-2020, 15:37   #584
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Piatek was a good buy.
- He just believed he arrived when he put the 9 on and slept from there on in. Cant see into a man's heart.

Paqueta - he has vision but seems to lack most everything else. He knows the cutting ball passes to play in the final third but most of the time he cant hit them well if he doesnt have a huge amount of time. His shooting is woeful; the worst in all the first team - I have yet to see him connect well with a strike. Then his decision making to dribble deep in our half where he doesnt have the agility or pace to lose defenders is just shocking, after 3 months of losing the ball in that half you would think he would know better.

Its hard to see him coming good.
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Old 14-07-2020, 16:44   #585
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Just hope for a redemption arc under Rangnick, he is worth only peanuts rn.
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Old 14-07-2020, 17:15   #586
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Sadly He doesnt fit in the 4222
I think its good for us and specially for him if he finds a club that will build around him.

He will at some point reach or get closer to his potential.. I just dont see it being at milan
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Old 14-07-2020, 19:17   #587
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Sadly He doesnt fit in the 4222
I think its good for us and specially for him if he finds a club that will build around him.

He will at some point reach or get closer to his potential.. I just dont see it being at milan
A Loan is the best option for him... we bought him for 35m right ?
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Old 29-07-2020, 20:52   #588
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Pretty good showing.
Feel bad for this dude....
Clearly he has the talent but is far from a finished product...

It really doesn't help that fucking Giampaolo played him in midfield and everytime he's played under pioli he's been played out of position (like taking saladmakekers place on the right vs Napoli)....

He needs game time...
1) He could be the first choice for the EL games next season
2) Maybe him and Hakan behind a striker (or two) for some games could work.
3) He could also take up the Bonaventura role (1st choice sub) but don't know if that will give him enough game time.
3) A loan like the Suso Genoa one to a Fiorentina or La Liga club could be the best option...


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Old 29-07-2020, 21:01   #589
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Pretty good showing.
Feel bad for this dude....
Clearly he has the talent but is far from a finished product...

It really doesn't help that fucking Giampaolo played him in midfield and everytime he's played under pioli he's been played out of position (like taking saladmakekers place on the right vs Napoli)....

He needs game time...
1) He could be the first choice for the EL games next season
2) Maybe him and Hakan behind a striker (or two) for some games could work.
3) He could also take up the Bonaventura role (1st choice sub) but don't know if that will give him enough game time.
3) A loan like the Suso Genoa one to a Fiorentina or La Liga club could be the best option...
Swap loans with Benfica's Luis. Paqueta will flourish in Portugal, like Bruno Fernandes
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Old 29-07-2020, 21:58   #590
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Can't forget Giampaolo publicly slating him when he was doing horrendously himself.

Giampaolo, worst manager in Milan history - "Paqueta is shit"

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Old 30-07-2020, 00:38   #591
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and everytime he's played under pioli he's been played out of position (like taking saladmakekers place on the right vs Napoli)....
Nope. Just away against Napoli.


CAM of 4231 against SPAL.

The most advanced mid of a 433/3241 in Pioli's first 6 games.


If those are not his real positions then I don't know what is..



0 goals, 0 assists.
33 attempts. Thousands of touches.


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Old 30-07-2020, 00:57   #592
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Can't forget Giampaolo publicly slating him when he was doing horrendously himself.

Giampaolo, worst manager in Milan history - "Paqueta is shit"

Only thing Giampaolo got right in his tenure


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Old 30-07-2020, 01:55   #593
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just hope for a redemption arc under rangnick, he is worth only peanuts rn.


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Old 30-07-2020, 04:42   #594
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Yeah and Hakan had exactly 1 assist Pre covid. Surely we should have sold him to some bundesfodder club for peanuts because he performed badly during our horrible run before the break right?


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Old 30-07-2020, 05:23   #595
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Yeah and Hakan had exactly 1 assist Pre covid.
and 5 goals.

Paqueta hasn't scored since February 10, 2019.

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Surely we should have sold him to some bundesfodder club for peanuts because he performed badly during our horrible run before the break right?
Hakan had been inconsistent, mixing great performances with poor ones.

Paqueta hasn't had a genuinely great game, with no buts and ifs, since March or February 2019.


I don't think Paqueta is a bad player per se, but his style looks out of place in this team.
We need the CAM to release the ball quicker, interchange positions and roles frequently with Ibra and the wingers, make off-ball runs, cover a lot of ground and to have an end product.
Paqueta is lacking in most of these aspects.


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Old 30-07-2020, 05:41   #596
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We actually paid 45m for this clown


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Bertolacci may very well be a must sign player, considering everything. He could be to us for the next five years, what Marchisio is to Juve.
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Old 30-07-2020, 06:46   #597
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and 5 goals.

Paqueta hasn't scored since February 10, 2019.



Hakan had been inconsistent, mixing great performances with poor ones.

Paqueta hasn't had a genuinely great game, with no buts and ifs, since March or February 2019.


I don't think Paqueta is a bad player per se, but his style looks out of place in this team.
We need the CAM to release the ball quicker, interchange positions and roles frequently with Ibra and the wingers, make off-ball runs, cover a lot of ground and to have an end product.
Paqueta is lacking in most of these aspects.
This I can agree with. I'm not opposed to selling him for equal or more money than we spent...or making him part of a package for a great player we need..

But assuming he's gonna be here how do we get the best out of a player with obvious potential?

Something like a good loan spell in Portugal or Spain could skyrocket his value again for us to sell even if he still doesn't fit our system...


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