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Old 04-07-2010, 12:32   #41
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Although I always found Van Bommel really disgusting et cetera, at this point it's De Jong who is the disgusting one by far at Oranje.

Seriously, how in earth does he still haven't gotten a red card? (I am also talking about pre-WC friendlies, et cetera.)

Anyway, I really really really hope to see De Zeeuw. He's awesome.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:04   #42
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de Jong was awesome against Brazil, and he played a clean match.


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Old 04-07-2010, 16:40   #43
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Although I agree with you that v Bommel and Robben (& vd Wiel once, but he got yellow) dived a number of times and it's not the kind of game I'd like to see holland play.

However, in the case of Robben I can understand it, as he got kicked the whole time since the start of the match.
Robben dived and tried to won the Oscar and didn't get a single yellow card. Felipe Melo did a little stomp and got a red card. Is it fair?

Robben was being marked in the right way. If he wants space to do the only move he knows, he should be limiting himself of playing against Spain and Barcelona.

Melo is obviously stupid and Dunga was very naive to not try to control his stupid instincts. Maybe because Dunga is still learning and the best way to do it is commiting mistakes. Brazilian NT is strong enough to hide some mistakes that refrained Dunga to learn more even though he did a nice job.

Probably the best manager to Brazil now would be Muricy Ramalho. He's a tough guy and put the team to play very hard but always controlling the instinct of the team to not be crossing boundaries. In brazilian national league he put the team to be playing more ease since the referees are pussies that swallow every diving while in Libertadores he let the team playing harder.

Leonardo is also a great manager but Milan payed for his lack of discipline and toughness. It's time to Brazil to find experienced managers. In 2002 Brazil had Felipão that already had won Libertadores for 2 times.

Smart managers know how to win pussy teams without being injuried by red cards.
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Old 04-07-2010, 18:48   #44
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Uruguay players will be swotting up on the Netherlands ahead of their SA2010 semi-final




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While Germany and Spain are familiar foes in Wednesday's last-four clash, the Netherlands and Uruguay last played each other at the 1974 World Cup.

The Oranje won that game 2-0, and will be hoping for a repeat in 2010 on Tuesday.

Uruguay will be desperate to make it to their first final since 1950 - when they lifted the Jules Rimet Trophy - and will spend the next few days doing their homework.

"Oscar Tabarez has asked us to concentrate fully, not just in the matches, but also in training," said Sebastian Abreu, who scored the winning spot-kick in the South American's penalty-shootout win over Ghana with a cheeky chip down the middle.

"He is very satisfied with our work.

"Looking at Holland, we have watched a lot of videos on their team because we don't know too much about them.

"Holland and Uruguay play very similar football, but they have very good potential in their attack with very clever players like (Wesley) Sneijder and (Arjen) Robben.

"Tabarez has been talking to us about Robben and how to stop a player like him from going forward, but it's always different when you are on the field.

"So we know how to do it, but whether the actual execution actually comes off is another thing."
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Old 04-07-2010, 18:59   #45
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Lugano may play against Netherlands. He's working hard and I know him very well. He always come back from his injuries before of what's predicted.

I'm just afraid that he lies to the doctors about his pain just to sacrifice himself to the team.
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Old 04-07-2010, 19:01   #46
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is lugano gonna play???

I love suarez but he's most replaceable. Lugano + Fucile will be REALLY hard. Fucile alone would be a huge blow BUT if Lugano can't get fit... I mean as much as i'll root for uruguay it doesntl ook good


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Old 04-07-2010, 19:02   #47
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Oh BTW, i fucking hate robben.... i've lost most respect for him. Sneijder may be a merda dick, but he's an amazing player.


robben....? He's undefendable because if u so much as touch him he dives. Grow up you bald asshole. Theres a difference between going down easy and just going down period.


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Old 04-07-2010, 19:11   #48
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is lugano gonna play???

I love suarez but he's most replaceable. Lugano + Fucile will be REALLY hard. Fucile alone would be a huge blow BUT if Lugano can't get fit... I mean as much as i'll root for uruguay it doesntl ook good
Lugano said during an interview that he trainned with the team without feeling pains on his knees and just stopped the physiotherapy to talk with the journalists.

Lugano had a smile on his face but he never looks upset. He always look happy out of the games and pissed off during the games so I don't know if that's a good sign.

I think Suarez is a great lost. He's scoring important goals and his ball control helps Uruguay to keep the ball on the attack. Forlán will need to be even more hero than in the last game.

Anyway, I don't know if Netherlands will be harder than Ghana. The ghanians are fucking strong and they NEVER get tired. What makes me most worried in Netherlands are Sneijder and Kuyt.


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Oh BTW, i fucking hate robben.... i've lost most respect for him. Sneijder may be a merda dick, but he's an amazing player.


robben....? He's undefendable because if u so much as touch him he dives. Grow up you bald asshole. Theres a difference between going down easy and just going down period.
I agree.
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Old 04-07-2010, 19:52   #49
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Still think Fucile suspension is worst thing for uruguay....guy is awesome and v. Robben he'd kill him (which i wanna see)

i gotta say uruguay backline is so refreshing. Fucile, Perriera, Lugno, Godin..... fucking awesomeness.


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Old 04-07-2010, 19:55   #50
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Fucile is a fucking warrior. One more player that Berlu could buy but wont. He's was facing those badass huge black guys from Ghana the whole game.

This Uruguay is making myself miss an uruguaian in São Paulo.
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Old 04-07-2010, 19:57   #51
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Any way to find those statistics of how much players run during the course of a match? Suarez was everywhere against Ghana. I don't think I've ever seen a striker run that much in a match. That's what is irreplaceable.
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Old 04-07-2010, 19:58   #52
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Fucile is a fucking warrior. One more player that Berlu could buy but wont. He's was facing those badass huge black guys from Ghana the whole game.

This Uruguay is making myself miss an uruguaian in São Paulo.
the way they play..... i dunno how to describe it other than, if Uruguay lose, i can safely say, they did there best and be happy for them. Left it all on the field. No quit.

And in many ways thats so refreshing.....


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Old 04-07-2010, 20:08   #53
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Oh BTW, i fucking hate robben.... i've lost most respect for him. Sneijder may be a merda dick, but he's an amazing player.


robben....? He's undefendable because if u so much as touch him he dives. Grow up you bald asshole. Theres a difference between going down easy and just going down period.
I think it's the CR9 argument all over again....which is better to get the rep as a diving pussy or to get your ass injured all the time. I begin to wonder how much of his diving is to win favours from the ref and how much of it is just straight up protecting yourself. The guy is glass and sometimes it's better for him to go to ground himself than to let someone take him there. Not defending him (even though I kinda like him tbh) just a different perspective.
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Old 04-07-2010, 20:23   #54
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I think it's the CR9 argument all over again....which is better to get the rep as a diving pussy or to get your ass injured all the time. I begin to wonder how much of his diving is to win favours from the ref and how much of it is just straight up protecting yourself. The guy is glass and sometimes it's better for him to go to ground himself than to let someone take him there. Not defending him (even though I kinda like him tbh) just a different perspective.
I see what you're saying, and maybe i'm being bias... but IMO robben v. brazil was worse than anything i've seen CR9 or Drogba or even Kaka do....

Those guys will go down easy but also fight thru and get a 50/50 balls quite often. People say CR9 is a diver, and he is, but how many times have u seen him push a defender off to chase down a ball??? Robben went down at ANY contact ever. I realize it's hard to rate levels of diving but way i saw it.... i thought Robben was literally saying "DONT TOUCH ME" whole game.


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Old 04-07-2010, 21:16   #55
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Did any of the Dutch people here experienced the final of 1988? Or even the World Cup finals in '74 and 78. I'm so nervous right now that we have this possibilty to get in to the World Cup final! It would be so special to expierence such a thing. Hopefully we don't screw up this chance, i'm convinced we won't!

ps. (again to the Dutch fans) where do you guys watch the matches. Pub, home, open air + big screen? I think i'll watch it from the Museumplein this time, and if we will make the final probably as well


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Old 04-07-2010, 21:24   #56
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the way they play..... i dunno how to describe it other than, if Uruguay lose, i can safely say, they did there best and be happy for them. Left it all on the field. No quit.

And in many ways thats so refreshing.....
Thats what we call garra charrua lol

Now the world knows again what the uruguayan football is all about - determination and bravery. They don't lose without fight, they never give up.

BTW, I think the preassure is all on the orange side. Uruguay has won a world cup already, they can lose and will go home like heroes anyway.
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Old 04-07-2010, 21:41   #57
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BTW, I think the preassure is all on the orange side. Uruguay has won a world cup already, they can lose and will go home like heroes anyway.
Could be an advantage for us just as easily. When i saw the interviews of the Dutch press with the Uruguayan players they gave me the impression theye were already happy with their semi-final.


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I see what you're saying, and maybe i'm being bias... but IMO robben v. brazil was worse than anything i've seen CR9 or Drogba or even Kaka do....

Those guys will go down easy but also fight thru and get a 50/50 balls quite often. People say CR9 is a diver, and he is, but how many times have u seen him push a defender off to chase down a ball??? Robben went down at ANY contact ever. I realize it's hard to rate levels of diving but way i saw it.... i thought Robben was literally saying "DONT TOUCH ME" whole game.
See I've got this theory...players dive in proportion to how much of their career gets f**ked by injury . Think about it. Kaka while healthy wasn't much of a diver till he kept getting raped every time he touched the ball and kept getting injured for longer spells. Messi was worse than any of 'em when if was injured all the time. He cooled down when his situation stabilized. Now out of the whole group I'm sure you'll agree the Robben got it the worse. CR7 AND drogba are certified c**ts so on excuse for them.

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Screw Urugay and Suarfag for what they did to Ghana, i hope the dutch rape them big time.. Please 10 - 0
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Screw Urugay and Suarfag for what they did to Ghana, i hope the dutch rape them big time.. Please 10 - 0
what he did....?

you mean gift a PK to win the game? I'm sick of this crap... what suarez did was a red card and he got it. Don't be bitter cause gyan choked then ghana choked


what suarez did was smart ad right play. He took a bullet, got his punishment. It's no different than when a defender takes a red for fouling a player on a sure goal (Wide open net)


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