European Coefficients Watch feat. Dr Galliani & co dominating the corridors of power

Dawn · Aug 24, 2016

UEFA should just take away that 3rd spot :lol:

Jasper · Aug 24, 2016

If I could just point a powershift :monto:

Hitman · Aug 24, 2016

Dawn said:
And no this is not simple math as you claimed. Things will be very different for England this season considering how their top teams had strengthen their squads. I predict this year could be their best year in the last 6-7 years with MU might go all the way to win EL. Thus I won't be so sure that Italy could still rely on 1 season wonder 2014-45 to overtake them in 2019.

Wanna do a sig bet on this?

sig bets are for people like you. not for me.

It actually is very simple math. It's only adding and subtracting. I guess I may have been right in that you didn't pass elementary maths.

The UEFA coefficients rank teams based on their performance over the last 5 years not just one season. That 'one season wonder' along with the other bad years around it put us only 2.5 points behind them. If Italy was poor according to you, then what does that say about England's performances then? And even if England have that great season you're talking about this year, it may not be enough. If you understood numbers this would be quite straight-forward, as you can see everyone here gets it but you.

I'll give you a few days to try to wrap your head around this.

Jasper said:
I'm dying here

what's funny to you? you're going to come here and claim forza italy when Sassuolo win but come here and laugh at Italy every time someone fucks up?

go hold hands with sage, i'm sure you guys would get along well.

Jasper · Aug 24, 2016

Hitman said:
what's funny to you?

You

Hitman said:
you're going to come here and claim forza italy when Sassuolo win but come here and laugh at Italy every time someone fucks up?

Hitman said:
go hold hands with sage, i'm sure you guys would get along well.

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Dawn · Aug 24, 2016

Hitman said:
as you can see everyone here gets it but you.

Doubt it!

And yeah sig bet is not for people like you. I'm done talking to you. Let's wait and see how things unfold at the end of this season. It's not looking good for Italy obviously

Jasper · Aug 25, 2016

Napoli in pot 2 :thumbsup:

Jasper · Aug 25, 2016

Sassuolo through, West Ham out.

Good draws for gobbi and Napoli too. (Tottenham maybe only English side that could finish bottom ... probably won't)

Polotelli · Aug 25, 2016

West Ham out :thumbsup:

Qaas · Aug 25, 2016

West ham out?.... For real? :lol:

But.. But the new stadium... I mean dimitri payet :eek:

Sovilhelm · Aug 25, 2016

Roma needs to fk off CL, does horse shit every year :fp:

Polotelli · Aug 25, 2016

Sovilhelm said:
Roma needs to fk off CL, does horse shit every year

well they kinda just did

Jasper · Aug 25, 2016

Sovilhelm said:
Roma needs to fk off CL, does horse shit every year

4 guaranteed group stage places with the new deal to be announced tomorrow ... (for 2018)

dcfcfan1 · Aug 25, 2016

Jasper said:
4 guaranteed group stage places with the new deal to be announced tomorrow ... (for 2018)

really?

Dawn · Aug 26, 2016

West Ham

So happy for them and their fans. Bacca is probably laughing right now

Vms · Aug 26, 2016

Evolution of UEFA club competitions from 2018

Champions League: Europe's top four leagues to each get four group-stage spots

Fuck coefficients,we got that 4th cl spot :lol:

necromancer · Aug 26, 2016

Close thread?

Vms · Aug 26, 2016

necromancer said:
Close thread?

Maybe we should rename it to italy's battle to keep the 4th CL spot

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

necromancer said:
Close thread?

Nah, the joke will keep on running till coefficient formula changes.

Vms said:
Evolution of UEFA club competitions from 2018
Champions League: Europe's top four leagues to each get four group-stage spots

Fuck coefficients,we got that 4th cl spot

Galliani boiz did it again :proud:

b@D~HorsiE · Aug 26, 2016

Yup, 4 places for Italy
http://www.football-italia.net/90404/official-italy-get-four-cl-teams

scarecrows · Aug 26, 2016

Now all against portuguese teams?

Tadej · Aug 26, 2016

Speaking of top 4 clubs from top 4 leagues goes to CL group stage.

That could be decisive against superliga thing. UEFA :thumbsup:

Ceferin for president

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

scarecrows said:
Now all against portuguese teams?

And France.

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

Tadej said:
That could be decisive against superliga thing. UEFA

Superliga was a threat to get these terms. Uefa yielded.

Goodfella · Aug 26, 2016

Goodfella said:
There'll be a format change in 2018 regardless of the outcome of this coefficients race. It will probably add more spots for big leagues, including Serie A.
Calcio invincibile

Tfat said:
Those format changes are focused on ensuring that the Barca's and the Munichs play each other more often and teams like united and Chelsea get their due. No one is sitting in uefa hq thinking about how to get Florentine into champions league

Told you

You can beat Calcio on the pitch, but you can never beat Calcio off the pitch.

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

Goodfella said:
Told you

You can beat Calcio on the pitch, but you can never beat Calcio off the pitch.

Oooh. tfatness getting helicoptered in the face with :g:

Is he a true hater tho? That post is mostly trolling. I'd think he's intelligent enough to know Il Dottore's influence.

Goodfella · Aug 26, 2016

Jasper said:
Oooh. tfatness getting helicoptered in the face with

Is he a true hater tho? That post is mostly trolling. I'd think he's intelligent enough to know Il Dottore's influence.

He seems to give his honest opinion in this one:

Tfat said:
I am reading the number of teams in the final competition won' be changed (32). Which it shouldn't , since these euros have been an absolute borefest.
So they will take away spots from some existing league? I would like to see how they manage that. At best, I see another qualifier rounds to enter ucl which may include more teams and subsequently teams from bigger leagues. If that's the case, then I'm all up for it.
Fodder A can't put 3 teams in, I doubt they will manage 4 even if they were given a spot.
It will only help la liga, bundesliga, and EPL.

tbf 4 guaranteed spots for the 4th placed league sounded too good to be true....but nothing is impossible with Calcio. :b:

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

Goodfella said:
He seems to give his honest opinion in this one:

tbf 4 guaranteed spots for the 4th placed league sounded too good to be true....but nothing is impossible with Calcio.

That doesn't seem like judging the pull of :g:

as opposed to judging Serie A competitive quality.

Goodfella · Aug 26, 2016

Jasper said:
That doesn't seem like judging the pull of as opposed to judging Serie A competitive quality.

"At best, I see another qualifier rounds to enter ucl which may include more teams and subsequently teams from bigger leagues."

^ Clearly underestimating off pitch Calcio.

"We need to get back to Top 3 to get the 3+1 spots back, huh?
How about this solution: we stay as fourth and get 4 guaranteed spots?" :g:

Hitman · Aug 26, 2016

Polotelli said:
West Ham out

this is a heavier loss than Roma's elimination from the qualifiers based on the current coefficient system

Jasper said:
Nah, the joke will keep on running till coefficient formula changes.

I believe there are changes. They are awarding points now to teams based on their history, so Milan is one of the teams that will be rewarded the most in this aspect.

It is good news for Italy that we won't have to compete against the top 3 because we seem to often crumble under pressure (Juve, Roma, Napoli) when it matters most. We were climbing back and we cut the deficit by a huge margin only for them now to change the rules as they started to notice Italy were breathing behind England's neck.

Imagine even after giving the top 4 clubs from top 4 nations entry to the CL, Italy fall to fifth in 5-6 years :lol:

Jasper · Aug 26, 2016

Hitman said:
I believe there are changes. They are awarding points now to teams based on their history, so Milan is one of the teams that will be rewarded the most in this aspect.

Yeah, atm club get league points but 2018 changes it to history points.

The full details of the access list for both competitions will be finalised by the end of the year.
A new system for the club coefficients: clubs will be judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient).
Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles)
Financial distribution to clubs will be increased significantly for both competitions.

A new four-pillar financial distribution system (starting fee, performance in the competition, individual club coefficient and market pool) will see sporting performances better rewarded, while market pool share will decrease.

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsle...ml#evolution+uefa+club+competitions+from+2018

Italy and France (Germany in the past) enjoyed large cuts of the pie because of TV deals. Now England was about to clean the house with a new deal (remember this from way back ... what's the current situation), but seems Gallianiboyz got their hands on thsoe pockets as well. Rightly too. (don't think they'll get more than English ... just a cut)

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