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Old 26-04-2019, 20:21   #21
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^I think it's because Suso does not have the tactical intelligence nor composure to play in a system. He's a soloist, and a limited period effective soloist over the course of a season.

His hesitation and cluelessness annoyed me even more when watching from the stadium. Piatek's frustration was so obvious on multiple occasions when Suso simply couldn't understand that a pass ahead would work better than just skipping horizontally with the ball.
Even though it's not an ideal pairing but i'd rather we play with Cutrone and Piatek up front and keep Suso on the bench. They won't play good football but at least they'll be unpredictable and the defense will be challenged a lot more. With Suso doing his thing and Piatek all alone the defenders can stop us pretty much on autopilot. Make sure Suso doesn't cut inside with space to shoot, and keep two defenders tight on Piatek and you're good. It's ridiculous how easy teams have managed to shut us down. We need unpredictability in the final third, and Paqueta has that. That's why i'd like to see him further forward somehow. What Suso does is great but it's too easily countered and nullified, and Piatek needs space and if he's suffocated he's useless.

I'm getting tired of us doing the same thing over and over again. Even when he played 343 he persisted with Suso on the right (even though he hoped he'd stay central but that was never going to happen) and Piatek stayed isolated. I think I finally lost patience with Suso. He needs to be benched for Cutrone and for us to play two up top.
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Old 27-04-2019, 09:26   #22
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Even though it's not an ideal pairing but i'd rather we play with Cutrone and Piatek up front and keep Suso on the bench. They won't play good football but at least they'll be unpredictable and the defense will be challenged a lot more. With Suso doing his thing and Piatek all alone the defenders can stop us pretty much on autopilot. Make sure Suso doesn't cut inside with space to shoot, and keep two defenders tight on Piatek and you're good. It's ridiculous how easy teams have managed to shut us down. We need unpredictability in the final third, and Paqueta has that. That's why i'd like to see him further forward somehow. What Suso does is great but it's too easily countered and nullified, and Piatek needs space and if he's suffocated he's useless.

I'm getting tired of us doing the same thing over and over again. Even when he played 343 he persisted with Suso on the right (even though he hoped he'd stay central but that was never going to happen) and Piatek stayed isolated. I think I finally lost patience with Suso. He needs to be benched for Cutrone and for us to play two up top.
I'd like to see that also. Especially now we're forced to play with Conti. Suso seems totally unable, or at least unwilling to use Conti when he overlaps so if Suso gets the ball then Conti is stuck by the sideline and we're effectively attacking with 1 less player.

Since Conti will always bomb forward and RR is strong in a 3 man defence we could switch to more of a 3 man defence when moving forward, or when Conti is forward, especially if Caldara is there to organize. Cutrone will make more space for Piatek, and also find space himself and then we would have Hakan, Paqueta and Conti in advanced positions to try to find them with Kessie coming through the middle too.
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Old 27-04-2019, 11:52   #23
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I want to see Paqueta closer to goal, more like SS where he could use his trickery to unsettle the defense, open spaces for Piatek who is normally isolated. Paqueta should not waste his energy with all the defensive work in a deeper role when he could be more potent closer to the opponent's goal.


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Another option is to move Hakan to Laxalt's role, Paqueta as a playmaker and Cutrone pairing Piatek.


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Old 27-04-2019, 12:05   #24
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I want to see Paqueta closer to goal, more like SS where he could use his trickery to unsettle the defense, open spaces for Piatek who is normally isolated. Paqueta should not waste his energy with all the defensive work in a deeper role when he could be more potent closer to the opponent's goal.
I think Paqueta should be played behind Piatek and Cutrone. You're on point with Paqueta creating problems with his trickery unsettling the defense and freeing up Piatek. We need to get him scoring going into these last games.
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Old 27-04-2019, 12:34   #25
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Gattuso: "Can Milan defend the fourth place to the end? Seeing the last games I would say no, we thought we were out of the crisis after the games with Juve and Lazio, we must do everything to stay together. We have to close to hedgehog "

Gattuso: "Team without soul guilt of the players? I am disappointed in myself, because I expected to get better in the head of the players, you can go wrong at the technical level but should never miss the desire to know how to suffer. Disappointed more than myself than the players "
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Old 27-04-2019, 12:36   #26
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Sorry, old news.
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Old 27-04-2019, 12:38   #27
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“Tomorrow we will play for the shirt, the careers of the players and the entire Milan universe,” said Gattuso at the start of his Press conference.

“We have a lot to play for. We’re coming off a negative moment and the criticism we have received is justified. Tomorrow we’re up against a Torino side that has similar characteristics to Atalanta, so we need physical strength and sharpness. It is our duty to do better.

“In moments of difficulty, we have always shown soul, but at the moment that is lacking. You can play badly, but get out of the situation with heart and suffering. We seem to have got ourselves stuck in this situation now and absolutely need to find our soul again.

“I am not punching anyone, we just need to make sure everyone understands the importance of being united and doing something more. We have to think with one mind, not just look at our own little patch of land, but the bigger picture.

“I hear too much chatter about my future and that of the players, but enough is enough. We must think only of the future of Milan. We’ve got to prove it all out there on the pitch.

“At this moment, we seem to have switched off in every respect. Talking is meaningless at this stage, we need action and results. It’s not a physical issue, as we do still run, but it’s the mentality that has to change.

“Everyone knows what is at stake, nobody plays badly on purpose. Milan hadn’t been challenging for a Champions League spot for years, instead I hear people suggest we’re worthless. That’s not true.

“We have strengths and weaknesses, but these lads deserve respect and a negative period can happen. You can’t purchase leadership at the supermarket, go in and ask for €10 worth of leadership. It takes time, a journey and everyone is bringing their piece of the puzzle.”

It’s a battle royal for that fourth place, as Milan are level on points with Atalanta (ahead due to a superior head-to-head record), one point clear of Roma and two in front of Torino.

“Everyone will struggle in these final rounds and the Champions League spot will go to whoever doesn’t let go. Looking at recent performances and results, I’d say Milan are not favourites for fourth place, but football is a strange sport. We’ll do everything to remain united, clam up and do our duty. Then we’ll judge at the end of the season.

“We need to play Torino with guts, hunger and mentality.”
Gattuso also had little patience for the continuing questions over his future on the bench.

“You’ve been telling me since July that I am no longer the Milan Coach, it’s a different name every day in my job. At this moment we are not playing good football, we are struggling mentally and the results aren’t coming, but the team hears this sort of gossip every day and is now accustomed to it.

“I am disappointed with myself, because I expected to make more of an impact in the minds of my players. You can make technical mistakes, but motivation must never be lacking. I am more disappointed by myself than by my players.”


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Old 27-04-2019, 12:49   #28
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I agree with the immediate and desperate need to drop Suso. He brings absolutely nothing to the table and it's pretty much like playing with 10 men.

With Suso out of the picture, the only worthwhile way to play is with Paqueta behind two strikers. It looked quite good against Udinese until the injury, and is a worthwhile gamble.


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Old 27-04-2019, 13:45   #29
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Gattuso: "Can Milan defend the fourth place to the end? Seeing the last games I would say no"
Brilliant.
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Old 27-04-2019, 14:26   #30
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Brilliant.
That's just admitting we've been shit.

He says words means nothing now and only actions counts. I like that. Time to wake the fuck up, Rino!
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Old 27-04-2019, 14:27   #31
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Brilliant.
I think he's trying something different than saying the usual. Trying to provoke a sense that the team is failing - in part to him - to keep onto 4th and unless there's a drastic turn around in results we'll lose 4th. It's true but to hear Gattuso say it means he's trying to trigger the players into action.
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Old 27-04-2019, 14:32   #32
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Old 27-04-2019, 14:41   #33
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I never really pay attention to what coaches/managers say in press conferences, especially when they are so poorly translated. “we have to close to hedgehog” should be the next commode name.
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Old 27-04-2019, 14:46   #34
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I think he's trying something different than saying the usual. Trying to provoke a sense that the team is failing - in part to him - to keep onto 4th and unless there's a drastic turn around in results we'll lose 4th. It's true but to hear Gattuso say it means he's trying to trigger the players into action.
Yes I'm sure he is. He was very negative, really laid into himself and said we're not favourites for fourth and that everyone is playing for the shirt and their career.

Definitely a shock tactic and wake-up call. Let's hope it works.
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Old 27-04-2019, 16:07   #35
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"Tomorrow we’re up against a Torino side that has similar characteristics to Atalanta, so we need physical strength and sharpness"

This is nonsense. Atalanta are an attacking team, Torino just parks the bus and wins 1-0.
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Old 27-04-2019, 16:31   #36
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I thought this was today for some reason.

I also thought the Lazio match was on a Tuesday until a few hours before.

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Torino are as similar to Atalanta, as we are to Barcelona.


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“Tomorrow we will play for the shirt, the careers of the players and the entire Milan universe,” said Gattuso at the start of his Press conference.

“We have a lot to play for. We’re coming off a negative moment and the criticism we have received is justified. Tomorrow we’re up against a Torino side that has similar characteristics to Atalanta, so we need physical strength and sharpness. It is our duty to do better.

“In moments of difficulty, we have always shown soul, but at the moment that is lacking. You can play badly, but get out of the situation with heart and suffering. We seem to have got ourselves stuck in this situation now and absolutely need to find our soul again.

“I am not punching anyone, we just need to make sure everyone understands the importance of being united and doing something more. We have to think with one mind, not just look at our own little patch of land, but the bigger picture.

“I hear too much chatter about my future and that of the players, but enough is enough. We must think only of the future of Milan. We’ve got to prove it all out there on the pitch.

“At this moment, we seem to have switched off in every respect. Talking is meaningless at this stage, we need action and results. It’s not a physical issue, as we do still run, but it’s the mentality that has to change.

“Everyone knows what is at stake, nobody plays badly on purpose. Milan hadn’t been challenging for a Champions League spot for years, instead I hear people suggest we’re worthless. That’s not true.

“We have strengths and weaknesses, but these lads deserve respect and a negative period can happen. You can’t purchase leadership at the supermarket, go in and ask for €10 worth of leadership. It takes time, a journey and everyone is bringing their piece of the puzzle.”

It’s a battle royal for that fourth place, as Milan are level on points with Atalanta (ahead due to a superior head-to-head record), one point clear of Roma and two in front of Torino.

“Everyone will struggle in these final rounds and the Champions League spot will go to whoever doesn’t let go. Looking at recent performances and results, I’d say Milan are not favourites for fourth place, but football is a strange sport. We’ll do everything to remain united, clam up and do our duty. Then we’ll judge at the end of the season.

“We need to play Torino with guts, hunger and mentality.”
Gattuso also had little patience for the continuing questions over his future on the bench.

“You’ve been telling me since July that I am no longer the Milan Coach, it’s a different name every day in my job. At this moment we are not playing good football, we are struggling mentally and the results aren’t coming, but the team hears this sort of gossip every day and is now accustomed to it.

“I am disappointed with myself, because I expected to make more of an impact in the minds of my players. You can make technical mistakes, but motivation must never be lacking. I am more disappointed by myself than by my players.”


Enough whining, start winning!
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Old 27-04-2019, 18:14   #39
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We are now in 5th place. Must win.
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This is nonsense. Atalanta are an attacking team, Torino just parks the bus and wins 1-0.


Not at all. They are very physical, very aggressive down the wings and constantly shoots on goal. They don’t have Atalanta’s great interplay, but they are as aggressive and with a similar work-rate.


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