Chiko
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Yea, I been hearing about this kid a lot. Seems overrated from what I have seen. His a good player no doubt, but his price tag.
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Yea, I been hearing about this kid a lot. Seems overrated from what I have seen. His a good player no doubt, but his price tag.
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Just because we were good at neutralising him doesn’t mean he is only a midfielder with a physical presence and good passing. He is more than that. He is clearly not worth 100million let alone 80.. but that if that is what you have to pay for players like him, then we should do it.
He has 9 goals in serie a btw.. and 2 assists. Pogbas beastly 2015/16 season he scored 8 and had 12 assists.
This. His task was clearly to mark sms.. he only pressed another player after making sure sms was marked closely by some of the other players (biglia for instance)
Just because we were good at neutralising him doesn’t mean he is only a midfielder with a physical presence and good passing. He is more than that. He is clearly not worth 100million let alone 80.. but that if that is what you have to pay for players like him, then we should do it.
He has 9 goals in serie a btw.. and 2 assists. Pogbas beastly 2015/16 season he scored 8 and had 12 assists.
This. His task was clearly to mark sms.. he only pressed another player after making sure sms was marked closely by some of the other players (biglia for instance)
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Good call.
But keep in mind SMS just turned 23 two days ago. And look what beast he already is. The only difference between him an dPogba in 2015/2016 is that Pogba played in a well-oiled machinery surrounded by Pirlos, Vidals and Tevez'. I'd bet my left ball if I could that if you'd put SMS in a time-capsule and insert him instead of Pogba in that Juve side he'd do as good as him.
What I want to say: He's only going to improve. And in todays market the valutation of players has reached heights where it's not worth debating if the price is justified or not. I mean Coutinho for 180M says it all.
SMS is going to be huge. Very huge. He would already take our midfield to a new level now while he still has 10 years of highest niveau seasons in his legs. What ever the price is it would pay back I'm sure of it. Yes sure we can also buy Kroos or Modric for half the price but in 3-4 years we'll be back at square one.
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SMS is the most important signing we can make this summer. Nr 2 is Pulisic. Nr 3 is absolutely irrelevant.
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Is this kid that good, his good but the way people describe him, its like his the next big thing.
If he is then there is no chance we get him anyway.
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A striker is our biggest need, there's no good leftback in the squad, and you want 2 midfielders as the only signing?
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SMS is not a midfielder. I will say what I said before....his passing is too poor to play in midfield (pass completion 67.3% against us for eg), and he is dangerous due to physicality and good ball control. His decision making is not great and he gives the ball away constantly. Not a big enough upgrade on Jack to warrant spending the crazy money that it would take to get him, and I am not a huge fan of Jack. He is the type of player that the EPL hype machine loves, only when they sign him they will be pissed off, similar to the Bakayoko case at Chelsea.
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Yes, a striker. This time a good one.
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High motor, desire to take the game on his shoulders coupled with very well developed physique. He moves very well for a big guy and is a danger on goal. He can work defensively too and has incredible room to grow. It's always a special thing when you see a big player move well and fluid. He's already very well rounded player with the right mindset.
Btw @ Colossus - his overall pass% is 81,3%, he has 1.5 key passes per game and plays a decently high amount of passes per game. His passing stats seem absolutely tolerable.
I want us to sign two future worldclass players. Pulisic is a winger with pace - exactly what we've been clamoring for. SMS is the next piece in the puzzle to add to Kessie. We'd be set for a decade at least.
Rodriguez is not setting the world on fire but he's okay. Before we sign a new striker we need to move at least one of our current ones. I also don't think Silva is done yet and Cutrone is already Serie A level.
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why did rino gattuso call on kalinic7 before andre silva..even though kalinic7 had "a problem with his thigh muscle" and had to "grit his teeth to play" ?
this guy?
seems a little soy
this guy?
seems a little soy
Every year there is a player in Serie A who is hyped like he is the next Messi.
And in most cases nothing comes out of them.
Example from last year: Belotti.
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SMS has been garnering attention for quite a while. He was already interesting last season. I mean, what's your point? Not follow players who seem very promising just because some fall through? That's the nature of the game. Not every prediction and not every try will be the right one. It doesn't invalidate all possibilities. By the same token you could argue that we shouldn't have signed Kessie, because there's always a strong mid getting hyped that ends up not making the jump.
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Every year there is a player in Serie A who is hyped like he is the next Messi.
And in most cases nothing comes out of them.
Example from last year: Belotti.
Yup...every year there's some guy who's hyped to the stars....some of whom we actually ended up getting.
Zapata (mentioned alongside Nesta)
Fabio Santacroce (see above)
Belotti - To be fair, Capello called him the next Batigol
Amelia - "He'll be sooo much better than Dida you guys"
Cavani - Actually turned out to be world class
Gilardino - ppl were actually happy that we chose him over Crespo
I'm sure there are many more forum hyped players...I can't remember any atm. There were also a lot of "next great" things like Foggia, Paloschi (I think he's pretty good...not Pippo good), Cristante and even Merkel.
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When did belotti become a flop...a couple injuries and poor form hasn't ruined his career at all.
Every league has talented players who don't make it, who cares anyway. SMS is absolutely a ridiculous talent btw, that's nonsense to think because the great frank kessie shut him down in a damn semi final has anything to do with him actually being good or not
Every league has talented players who don't make it, who cares anyway. SMS is absolutely a ridiculous talent btw, that's nonsense to think because the great frank kessie shut him down in a damn semi final has anything to do with him actually being good or not
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Why would ladri sell Rugani if hes good???
This team needs a winger that can rotate, cf and a play who is not Biglia.
When Biglia is to make a forward pass he calls you on the phone, you wait...everyone knows...then maybe he is ready to pass. Looses 5 times the ball 25m from the goal.
But Bonucci, Roma, Calabra...spectacle...
This team needs a winger that can rotate, cf and a play who is not Biglia.
When Biglia is to make a forward pass he calls you on the phone, you wait...everyone knows...then maybe he is ready to pass. Looses 5 times the ball 25m from the goal.
But Bonucci, Roma, Calabra...spectacle...
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Every year there is a player in Serie A who is hyped like he is the next Messi.
And in most cases nothing comes out of them.
Example from last year: Belotti.
Belotti has taken some very poor decisions in summer and even before by getting that 100M clause in his contract. All those transfer-talks spoiled his mind, and then the injuries came exactely when it was time to confirm what good things he did.
Doesn't mean he's a flop. There is plenty of time to show his worth.
Yup...every year there's some guy who's hyped to the stars....some of whom we actually ended up getting.
Zapata (mentioned alongside Nesta)
Fabio Santacroce (see above)
Belotti - To be fair, Capello called him the next Batigol
Amelia - "He'll be sooo much better than Dida you guys"
Cavani - Actually turned out to be world class
Gilardino - ppl were actually happy that we chose him over Crespo
I'm sure there are many more forum hyped players...I can't remember any atm. There were also a lot of "next great" things like Foggia, Paloschi (I think he's pretty good...not Pippo good), Cristante and even Merkel.
I like you leaf but this kind of reasoning doesn't lead anywhere.
And then you call Belotti a flop way too soon. Robben, Sneijder, Pirlo, Davids, hell even Zlatan or Seedorf... a lot of great players who made history at some point in their career flopped hard and then they succeeded at another place.
Thank you.
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Yup...every year there's some guy who's hyped to the stars....some of whom we actually ended up getting.
Zapata (mentioned alongside Nesta)
Fabio Santacroce (see above)
Belotti - To be fair, Capello called him the next Batigol
Amelia - "He'll be sooo much better than Dida you guys"
Cavani - Actually turned out to be world class
Gilardino - ppl were actually happy that we chose him over Crespo
I'm sure there are many more forum hyped players...I can't remember any atm. There were also a lot of "next great" things like Foggia, Paloschi (I think he's pretty good...not Pippo good), Cristante and even Merkel.
what e x a c t l y is your point
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your hate for biglia is starting to get old .. we get it .. you wanted badelj .. move on
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Every year there is a player in Serie A who is hyped like he is the next Messi.
And in most cases nothing comes out of them.
Example from last year: Belotti.
I wouldn’t quite write Belotti off as yet. He has suffered with injury problems and plays in a shit Toro team. He has almost all of the tools to be a complete CF (can finish with both feet, good in the air, holds the ball up, decently fast, can run with the ball decelty well, good movement off the ball).
In fact, I would sell Kalinic and Silva and for that money sign Belotti on a huge discount to what he was available for last year. I think he is the best of the currently available options, unless a WC a player suddenly becomes available.
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Belotti has taken some very poor decisions in summer and even before by getting that 100M clause in his contract. All those transfer-talks spoiled his mind, and then the injuries came exactely when it was time to confirm what good things he did.
Doesn't mean he's a flop. There is plenty of time to show his worth.
I like you leaf but this kind of reasoning doesn't lead anywhere.
And then you call Belotti a flop way too soon. Robben, Sneijder, Pirlo, Davids, hell even Zlatan or Seedorf... a lot of great players who made history at some point in their career flopped hard and then they succeeded at another place.
Thank you.
I just think we shouldn't get dogmatic about any one player who isn't in red and black yet
There are so many heated arguments about who should come and why Player X would be our saviour....but in reality we got no fuckin clue.
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More potential than Kessie you think?
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nah kessie is the tankest of them all
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