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Old 10-12-2018, 17:40   #681
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Two CM midfield vs their midfield was the biggest reason to this horrible display. Especially when Hakan and Suso played so bad.
True. The problem is that we only have 2 CMs... Berto, Mauri and Monto don't count as players. Although, Mauri did show some promise against Dudelange, but would've been eaten by this physical Torino.


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Old 10-12-2018, 17:58   #682
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True. The problem is that we only have 2 CMs... Berto, Mauri and Monto don't count as players. Although, Mauri did show some promise against Dudelange, but would've been eaten by this physical Torino.
Samu Higuain Suso
Hakan Baka Kessie

Why are we not playing like this? Wouldn't have been worse that what we saw yesterday.

We've seen Hakan at LCM and he's done well, on par with Jack's performances there. And since he's basically useless on the wing right now we should try him in a more central role. Suso is also horrible in 442 so one stone...


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Old 10-12-2018, 18:01   #683
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Bakayoko would also be freed that way. Vs Torino, Mazzari made a smart move by basically man making him and since he was our playmaking outlet in our own half we looked like shit in the build up.


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Old 10-12-2018, 18:24   #684
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You guys saying Suso was horrible because we played a 4-4-2 Suso was bad yesterday because Torino defenders constantly, 100% of the time, showed him to his right foot. It was merely about the quality of the defence. We played Juve and Torino in the last 3 weeks, the two best defensively organized sides in the league. Suso and Higuain are both great against say, 12 of the 19 other teams in the league, but both of them aren't good enough to overcome the best organized defences.

It has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with the lineup. That's FM talk.


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Old 10-12-2018, 19:23   #685
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Omg what a tactical geniusness, show him to the right foot, we're so lucky no one else thought of that ever before. We're also so lucky that they didn't double up on the defender for support as well. Oh wait, they all do that

Problem with 442 for Suso is that his base/start position when we recover the ball is further down the pitch than in a 433. He have to transport the ball into their final third every time and he's not really good at that.


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Old 10-12-2018, 20:31   #686
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Samu Higuain Suso
Hakan Baka Kessie

Why are we not playing like this? Wouldn't have been worse that what we saw yesterday.

We've seen Hakan at LCM and he's done well, on par with Jack's performances there. And since he's basically useless on the wing right now we should try him in a more central role. Suso is also horrible in 442 so one stone...
When was that? I thought everyone agreed that Hakan at should not play LCM last season. Do we start this again?))

Also, remember Rino's words from a couple of weeks ago - we have sacrificed what we have done well at the beginning of the season (attacking) to get better at defending. So, this is a conscious choice that he's making. He's gonna try and stabilize the defensive part, before going back to attractive football.

If were to go 4-3-3, it would be best to play Cutrone and have Higuain as impact sub, but we know that's not gonna happen. If you bench him, you lose him.


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Old 10-12-2018, 20:32   #687
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Suso has played well in 4-4-2 before. The problem right now is that only the right wing is producing anything. Hakan and Rodriguez are pretty useless, so these teams just focus on blocking Suso/Calabria.


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Old 10-12-2018, 23:36   #688
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I never agreed that Hakan shouldn't play LCM

Suso played well in 442 before, but he's most dangerous when plays higher up the pitch. Kessie's work (runs) at RCM shouldn't be underestimated either, it frees up at least one player from the opposition and gives him an player to pass. Also Abate as CB, as great as he's been, is because Calabria (and Kessie) for example have been forced to play more defensively to help him out, giving Suso less options to pass.

I was always curious to see how the right side of Conti, Kessie and Suso would work - I hope we'll realize that potential during this season.


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