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Old 30-03-2010, 13:40   #61
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What the hell are going with you people? I thought first that it was reactions from result frustration "even though i'm not supporting that behave", but it seems that you trying to criticise a player with his first appearance with Bad MILAN team that can't build a proper clear chances or even cross the ball and over that, against a team that park the buss and give no chances to score, even Borie and SP or Seedo didn't go through it.

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Old 30-03-2010, 13:44   #62
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Milan fans are spoiled b/c Pato made an instant impact on his debut the expectation that every other youngster should do the same is ridiculous.
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Old 30-03-2010, 13:49   #63
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I think the problem is that most people just want to have something to whine about...

"Oh no, one of our primavera players got 15 minutes playing time in a though game, he didn't make a great impact."

You hear how stupid that sounds? Not to mention our experienced attackers couldn't do SHITE.

People need to learn the difference between wonderkids and talented youth.


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Old 30-03-2010, 13:50   #64
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Milan fans are spoiled b/c Pato made an instant impact on his debut the expectation that every other youngster should do the same is ridiculous.
Pato made his first debut with a proper Milan team and the result was in wining mode with Zero Pressures.
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Old 30-03-2010, 13:53   #65
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i think the problem is that most people just want to have something to whine about...

"oh no, one of our primavera players got 15 minutes playing time in a though game, he didn't make a great impact."

you hear how stupid that sounds? Not to mention our experienced attackers couldn't do shite.

People need to learn the difference between wonderkids and talented youth.
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Old 30-03-2010, 14:17   #66
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What the hell are going with you people? I thought first that it was reactions from result frustration "even though i'm not supporting that behave", but it seems that you trying to criticise a player with his first appearance with Bad MILAN team that can't build a proper clear chances or even cross the ball and over that, against a team that park the buss and give no chances to score, even Borie and SP or Seedo didn't go through it.

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yeah agreed... some are acting like Pippo and Borriello were getting chances left and right, and then Zigoni came on and we didnt get anymore. If we had put him on 5 or so minutes earlier, we really could have used him when we had those couple of corners... his height is an asset. I think it is more than a little crazy to be able to determine that he doesnt have the mentality to play for Milan after those 15 minutes


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Old 30-03-2010, 14:21   #67
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Pato made his first debut with a proper Milan team and the result was in wining mode with Zero Pressures.
yeah not to mention, Pato also plays more than 15 minutes .. people should get a grip
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Old 30-03-2010, 15:30   #68
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yeah agreed... some are acting like Pippo and Borriello were getting chances left and right, and then Zigoni came on and we didnt get anymore. If we had put him on 5 or so minutes earlier, we really could have used him when we had those couple of corners... his height is an asset. I think it is more than a little crazy to be able to determine that he doesnt have the mentality to play for Milan after those 15 minutes
Right, it can't be expected that a youngster comes into a game soon before the end and changes the outcome, or score a hattrick. It's normal that it didn't happen, it was tough at the end with the opponent defending, so we shouldn't only judge him by that one performance.
He should get other chances and then we will see if he can do more. He's doing well in the Primavera imo, so in the future he could also do well in the first team.
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Old 30-03-2010, 15:57   #69
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why are you blaming zigoni, he hardly had any service and actually tried to jump for lost causes etc. he was thrown in at the deep end and failed unlike paloschi and pato. but this was different. pato played a full game and has unlimited potential. paloschi was thrown on against an atacking siena and he got a wonderful pass from seedorf which he took well. if zigoni was given a pass like that on sunday, we would have won.
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Old 30-03-2010, 16:25   #70
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glad to see that some milan fans have a brain. i would like to see zigoni play a full game without Borriello next to him. Borriello, for me at least, seems to get in the way of a lot of potential goals.
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Old 30-03-2010, 16:55   #71
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wow I think I was misunderstood here. All I was sayin was since we're letting the kids play let's see who else looks more able to play in the first team. I maintained from the start that I'm not sayin he's shit. If beretta/adiyah comes on and looks more dangerous or scores isn't that better than playing someone who looks not ready yet. If they look even worse than Zigoni then Zigoni's probably the best of the worst and we could try him again until...whenever
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Old 31-03-2010, 09:37   #72
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it's not the first time that zigoni played with 1st milan squad.
i see him for around 3 times in squad like this. and allways was apatic, not fast, not interested in game...

just better to see smaller paloschi to fight & run like lion and worked hard his ass of than another static borriello.

just my thought...
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Old 31-03-2010, 10:15   #73
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it's not the first time that zigoni played with 1st milan squad.
i see him for around 3 times in squad like this. and allways was apatic, not fast, not interested in game...

just better to see smaller paloschi to fight & run like lion and worked hard his ass of than another static borriello.

just my thought...
Please, state the matches and date that Zigoni played with First Team, as far I know this was the First appearing in SA.
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Old 31-03-2010, 10:29   #74
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Please, state the matches and date that Zigoni played with First Team, as far I know this was the First appearing in SA.
in serie a was first, but playing with 1st squad was not the first time.
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Old 31-03-2010, 10:35   #75
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in serie a was first, but playing with 1st squad was not the first time.
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Old 31-03-2010, 11:10   #76
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in serie a was first, but playing with 1st squad was not the first time.
read carefully.
That was my point, I want you to spell it from your mouth


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Old 31-03-2010, 15:04   #77
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it's not the first time that zigoni played with 1st milan squad.
i see him for around 3 times in squad like this. and allways was apatic, not fast, not interested in game...

just better to see smaller paloschi to fight & run like lion and worked hard his ass of than another static borriello.

just my thought...
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Paloschi was definitely 100 times better. I won't go so far to say that zigoni was apathetic but he looked seriously off pace. If he moved like Borri I'd be happy to see him the very next match. Sue me if I'm not impressed but I saw nothing on his debut. This is also not his debut with the first team but his SerieA debut. People talk about Palo and Pato playing before but this kid featured in a lot of our prereason games and looked exactly the same in each of them didn't score either. He must be talented to scope so many with his peers and I'm all for trying kids ready to make the leap. But The key word there is READY and it's no knock or disrespect but I'm pretty sure that we have other kids with more to offer at this time
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Old 03-04-2010, 20:15   #78
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Then Galli reveals a background of market "Zigoni? Knew that there was Palermo, but also Genoa and Inter, but we managed to arrive early to buy it. He made his debut last Sunday in Serie A against Palermo has found flicker of race of the attacker and managed to make a beautiful goal. I do not know if it is ready for the big stage Series A, is a very professional guy and posed. "
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Old 03-04-2010, 23:37   #79
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it's not the first time that zigoni played with 1st milan squad.
i see him for around 3 times in squad like this. and allways was apatic, not fast, not interested in game...

just better to see smaller paloschi to fight & run like lion and worked hard his ass of than another static borriello.

just my thought...
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Paloschi was definitely 100 times better. I won't go so far to say that zigoni was apathetic but he looked seriously off pace. If he moved like Borri I'd be happy to see him the very next match. Sue me if I'm not impressed but I saw nothing on his debut. This is also not his debut with the first team but his SerieA debut. People talk about Palo and Pato playing before but this kid featured in a lot of our prereason games and looked exactly the same in each of them didn't score either. He must be talented to scope so many with his peers and I'm all for trying kids ready to make the leap. But The key word there is READY and it's no knock or disrespect but I'm pretty sure that we have other kids with more to offer at this time
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Paloschi impressed me also more than Zigoni.
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Old 04-04-2010, 00:22   #80
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Not giving enough? Seriously???


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