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Old 19-08-2015, 09:48   #41
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Parma was a competitive team but not a BIG team.
they were similar to today's Roma
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Old 19-08-2015, 15:19   #42
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Should loaned out to Serie B just like Gabriel. I hope him & Gabriel is the future of goalkeeper in next 5 years.
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Old 19-08-2015, 16:26   #43
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Nah he should stay unless you really want to see agazzi as 3rd goalie
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Old 19-08-2015, 16:38   #44
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Nah he should stay unless you really want to see agazzi as 3rd goalie
Ofc he's staying, Milan will benefit from him not being counted in the rule of 25.


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Old 20-08-2015, 00:39   #45
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they were similar to today's Roma
More than that, they actually won few European titles


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Old 20-08-2015, 00:42   #46
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More than that, they actually won few European titles
yeah + they were able to defeat the league's top teams.
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Old 20-08-2015, 01:42   #47
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I think comparing him with Buffon is just asinine. Plus do not forget Buffon started in Parma which it was not a BIG team at all.

I think a fair comparison could be with Scuffet that came out of nowhere. I think Donnaruma could start as long as there is a team that believes on him and has an option to buy him.
Parma was a big team, probably bigger than what Napoli is today, every year she was an automatic challenger for the title (hence the "seven sisters" title) and if I recall correctly Buffon had his first game against Milan which at the time was a vital scudetto game. That same year Parma won the Uefa cup against Juventus. The bad luck of Parma is that it had its peak during the golden years of Milan and Juventus.

That said, it was easier for Buffon to be considered due to the 3 foreign players rule. Today, he'd have to compete with youngsters from all over the world. Plus he had Villiam Vecchi as his GK coach.
Scuffet had a similar start, but he had a lot less pressure and was in a lot less affirmed club (probably worse training environment as well). I liked some of the things, but I'm afraid he was a lot less complete and some of his defects were originally harder to spot due to Udinese team concealing them.
In Italy, you can have a great first season, but in the second season everything you do will be analyzed very well to find your weak points.
Probably Perin has so far been the better new version of Buffon especially in terms of consistency.

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Old 20-08-2015, 20:59   #48
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Parma was a big team, probably bigger than what Napoli is today, every year she was an automatic challenger for the title (hence the "seven sisters" title) and if I recall correctly Buffon had his first game against Milan which at the time was a vital scudetto game. That same year Parma won the Uefa cup against Juventus. The bad luck of Parma is that it had its peak during the golden years of Milan and Juventus.

That said, it was easier for Buffon to be considered due to the 3 foreign players rule. Today, he'd have to compete with youngsters from all over the world. Plus he had Villiam Vecchi as his GK coach.
Scuffet had a similar start, but he had a lot less pressure and was in a lot less affirmed club (probably worse training environment as well). I liked some of the things, but I'm afraid he was a lot less complete and some of his defects were originally harder to spot due to Udinese team concealing them.
In Italy, you can have a great first season, but in the second season everything you do will be analyzed very well to find your weak points.
Probably Perin has so far been the better new version of Buffon especially in terms of consistency.
Sorry but IMO a big team is considered BIG because they are always in the mix or conversation for challengers to the title. Just because Parma had a nice period, it does not mean that they are big.

Is Deportivo La Coruna a BIG team in Spain? No, they are not. EOD.


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Old 21-08-2015, 00:48   #49
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Sorry but IMO a big team is considered BIG because they are always in the mix or conversation for challengers to the title. Just because Parma had a nice period, it does not mean that they are big.

Is Deportivo La Coruna a BIG team in Spain? No, they are not. EOD.
Parma had money and big players. They wouldn't have started a 18 years old keeper if he wasn't already able to perform like a star.


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Old 21-08-2015, 03:43   #50
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Sorry but IMO a big team is considered BIG because they are always in the mix or conversation for challengers to the title. Just because Parma had a nice period, it does not mean that they are big.

Is Deportivo La Coruna a BIG team in Spain? No, they are not. EOD.
LoL.. that's what I said, they WERE always in the mix and always challenging for the title.
A team that won 2 Uefa Cups, 1 Winners Cup in 4-5 years under no measure can be considered a small team. This is a team that had Buffon, Cannavaro, Thuram, Dino Baggio, Veron, Crespo, Chiesa, Sensini ALL in the same team. I don't know how much more superstar can you get. They bitch slapped us 2-0 when we were under the first Capello in the European Super Cup final in San Siro.

IIRC Deportivo La Coruna won the title in La Liga when we were under Zaccheroni ahead of Real Madrid and Barcelona. Is Valencia big, they are not as big now, but in 2000 they were huge.
Is Atletico Madrid a big team. I mean they won one La Liga in 20 years?
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Old 21-08-2015, 04:26   #51
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Parma was the Chelsea of the 90s, except in a tougher league. So they didn't win much.


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Old 21-08-2015, 04:39   #52
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This 'Big' discussion is not attacking it from the right angles

A 'Big' team... They have titles/history, they have resources- currently and they haven't fallen out of the discussion of league/European champion contenders for too long of a time.

Milan will always have big history
They still have resources but have waned
They have fallen out of contention for championship football

So they were a big club who can be big again

Parma are not even close to being called a big club... Maybe even ever.
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Old 21-08-2015, 09:38   #53
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The only "angle" i care about, is how strong they were in that period, because it's the only one that says how much they espected from a 18 years old keeper performances, which is the only thing related to the thread topic.


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Old 21-08-2015, 17:16   #54
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'Big' is a nonsense word. 'Storied' is a good word.. In Serie A, that would include basically the Sette Sorelle clubs. Milan, Juve, Inter, Roma, Lazio, Fiorentina, Parma.

One could debate whether to add Napoli or not. Largely a Maradona thing really. But I think they qualify too.


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Old 21-08-2015, 18:42   #55
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They bitch slapped us 2-0 when we were under the first Capello in the European Super Cup final in San Siro.
Just checked this on wiki

>No Savicevic in return leg

Goddamit Capello
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Old 21-08-2015, 19:22   #56
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Small... Big... What's the deal here?


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Old 25-10-2015, 06:43   #57
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Big day for the big man. Hope it goes well.


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Old 25-10-2015, 14:55   #58
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congratz for the debut ... still i don't think he deserve 1st choice whereas Lopez and Abbiati don't get injured

but whatever, hope he can do well
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Old 25-10-2015, 14:58   #59
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Old 25-10-2015, 17:04   #60
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Should've saved that shot and is already 16, sell.


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