English Premier League Thread II - Page 3

OneUnited · 12-07-2011, 22:21

I actually forget that they sponsor the league. Capitalist pigs.

Ashish · 12-07-2011, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

I have a different theory on it. Serie A is stone age cause of finances mostly. Today the van basten's desailley's of there time would go to epl cause of money.

Serie A teams have been forced to try to find players otherways....
be it finding a steal like players from regions less scouted, take advantage of market opportunitieS (like zlatan/robinho... or etoo/sneijder or... huntelaar

), or using older players with class and attempting to scheme a way to make up for there declining physical nature.

It's all tied back to money

agree but not completely

talent mehhhh
shit laws
shit administration
cheaters all around
mad bosses
and then stupid marketing strategy
Fetish for geriatric players

he can play till he dies rule

exemplifying lippis lattest team
stupid fans ... napoli fans going berserk in a train station

Serie A is shit .. god if only they took Milan to another league

Senatore_M84 · 12-07-2011, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Ashish

agree but not completely

talent mehhhh
shit laws
shit administration
cheaters all around
mad bosses
and then stupid marketing strategy
Fetish for geriatric players

he can play till he dies rule

exemplifying lippis lattest team
stupid fans ... napoli fans going berserk in a train station

Serie A is shit .. god if only they took Milan to another league

true the system of developing sucks when you compare to germany who have found how to build a higlhy competitive league without heavy spending.

unfortunately, italy hasn't because until recently they were the big spenders, so they just bought what they needed.

it comes down mostly to money. 10 years ago a kid like Sanchez would have been bought up by milan, inter or jube.

Today he's going to epl.

teams like arsenal, man utd can take gambles on big time prospect players like ronaldo, nani, nasri (all who showed themselves in smaller leagues) for fees in 16-20 euro realm.

Milan has to pull its teeth to pay that much for anyone, and when they do, they better be proven.

Now that italy doesn't have the money they need to find different ways, like german model.

TheWire · 13-07-2011, 02:04

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Originally Posted by Ashish

agree but not completely

talent mehhhh
shit laws
shit administration
cheaters all around
mad bosses
and then stupid marketing strategy
Fetish for geriatric players

he can play till he dies rule

exemplifying lippis lattest team
stupid fans ... napoli fans going berserk in a train station

Serie A is shit .. god if only they took Milan to another league

Arsenal most expensive signing is only 13m, rather miniscule compared to Chelsea,ManU,Pool etc.

PL is a brillant comp for developing foreign talent, bit of a shame the local lads are overrated and appalling. "It's not as if we have an incredible group of players coming through. Whoever takes over will have a tough job." Harry Redknapp on the U21 squad. Don't understand why Harry has been lambasted in the media for making such comments, is he making it up? English football excel at mediocrity

The Serie A has the legacy and the talent to overcome all challenges and will one day reclaim the top of the throne. Clear as day the Brits are lacking emotionally, physically, and mentally. Haye and Murray are perfect recent examples of this. The Brits are great at the arts, but terrible at sports.

Senatore_M84 · 13-07-2011, 02:09

nasri cost 14 mil pounds (17.8 mil euros).

Arshavin cost 16.5 mil pounds ?

TheWire · 13-07-2011, 02:31

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

nasri cost 14 mil pounds (17.8 mil euros).

Arshavin cost 16.5 mil pounds ?

I thought Arshavin was 12mil with add ons. Hard to believe that Arshavin is more expensive than Henry, Fabregas, Vieira,Bergkamp etc. like a transfer from bizarro world.

Consider Villa and Spurs have traditionally spent more in recent years, i think Le Arse have done a stellar job

manutd fan · 13-07-2011, 02:42

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Originally Posted by TheWire

I thought Arshavin was 12mil with add ons. Hard to believe that Arshavin is more expensive than Henry, Fabregas, Vieira,Bergkamp etc. like a transfer from bizarro world.

Consider Villa and Spurs have traditionally spent more in recent years, i think Le Arse have done a stellar job

Different market to be fair. 12M now worth much more than now than it was15 years ago.

neutral · 13-07-2011, 10:19

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Originally Posted by manutd fan

Different market to be fair. 12M now worth much more than now than it was15 years ago.

Other way around? 12M now worth much less than it was 15 years ago?

Footiefan · 13-07-2011, 11:33

Obviously. 3.5Million got you Keane 20 years back and it can get you 1/5th of Henderson now

Ash · 13-07-2011, 11:35

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Originally Posted by neutral

Other way around? 12M now worth much less than it was 15 years ago?

I think what ManUtd fan meant is that the market is way more inflated now. 12m 15 years back would get you someone like Kaka or Ronaldo. Now that amount wont even get you a Witsel....

neutral · 13-07-2011, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Ash

I think what ManUtd fan meant is that the market is way more inflated now. 12m 15 years back would get you someone like Kaka or Ronaldo. Now that amount wont even get you a Witsel....

Yes so he did write it the wrong way around. Thats what i thought

Edit : Lol @ Ac Milan for being an option to win the PL..

Footiefan · 13-07-2011, 12:58

Riise signed for Fulham..

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Fulham confirm the signing of former Liverpool defender John Arne Riise on a three-year deal.

Sage · 13-07-2011, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Footiefan

Riise signed for Fulham..

great signing for them, quality LB.

Roma are idiots.

Ash · 13-07-2011, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Sage

great signing for them, quality LB.

Roma are idiots.

Honestly!

Do those idiots really expect some kid who just had his first full season in La Liga last year to tear it up in Serie A?

Atleast could have kept Riise as a backup

And is Didac more highly rated than Jose Angel?

Sage · 13-07-2011, 13:27

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Originally Posted by Ash

Honestly!

Do those idiots really expect some kid who just had his first full season in La Liga last year to tear it up in Serie A?

Atleast could have kept Riise as a backup

And is Didac more highly rated than Jose Angel?

who the fuck is jose angel?

Ash · 13-07-2011, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Sage

who the fuck is jose angel?

Roma's new LB and Riise's replacement. Signed from Sporting for 4m euros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%...el_Vald%C3%A9s

Barcelona were after him also...

And he is backup to Didac in the Spanish U21 team...

Sage · 13-07-2011, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Ash

Roma's new LB and Riise's replacement. Signed from Sporting for 4m euros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%...el_Vald%C3%A9s

Barcelona were after him also...

And he is backup to Didac in the Spanish U21 team...

Never seen him play, but both ways its stupid to let riise go, hes only 30 and its very hard to find a proper FB these days.

Sabatini is a good sporting director though, so angel might have the right qualities.

Ash · 13-07-2011, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Sage

Never seen him play, but both ways its stupid to let riise go, hes only 30 and its very hard to find a proper FB these days.

Sabatini is a good sporting director though, so angel might have the right qualities.

I think he is more of a Luis Enrique signing...

KujaIX · 13-07-2011, 14:16

He's pretty good on FM, I hear.

acmilan4ever · 13-07-2011, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Ash

Honestly!

Do those idiots really expect some kid who just had his first full season in La Liga last year to tear it up in Serie A?

Atleast could have kept Riise as a backup

And is Didac more highly rated than Jose Angel?

Angel is more highly rated than Vila, whether he actually is better than him or not in the serie A remain to be seen.

Riise was so damn awful for them, specially in the CL.

They also signed Loic Nego [20] who is a highly rated RB in France.

It will be interesting to see Enrique's back up plan should Angel flop...

Edit: Just read that they've agreed for and with Carlos Kameni as their new GK. Another import from Spain.

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OneUnited 1878 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England	I actually forget that they sponsor the league. Capitalist pigs.

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