German Bundesliga Thread

Passion for *9* · Jul 26, 2007

-- Bundesliga clubs are selling record numbers of season tickets, Borussia Dortmund topping the list @ 50.000

-- Schalke + Bayern will play the league cup final on Saturday

-- Werder Bremen update :

have signed Sanogo from HSV

lost 4 consecutive pre-season matches

injury scare for Frings who was feared to have torn his cruciate ligament but after more thorough checks rupture has been ruled out + he's said to be out of action 6 weeks rather than 6 months

Tsar · Jul 26, 2007

Passion for *9* said:
-- Bundesliga clubs are selling record numbers of season tickets, Borussia Dortmund topping the list @ 50.000

Was Galliani not boasting how Milan had sold 35,000 or something? Its really quite pathetic when you see those kind of figures coming from a "lesser" league and far lesser club.

Is the German League Cup like the Charity Shield or Super Coppa? I guess it can't be as Stuttgart aren't in it, but it just seems too early to be anything else.

Jasper · Jul 26, 2007

Tsar said:
Was Galliani not boasting how Milan had sold 35,000 or something? Its really quite pathetic when you see those kind of figures coming from a "lesser" league and far lesser club.

Is the German League Cup like the Charity Shield or Super Coppa? I guess it can't be as Stuttgart aren't in it, but it just seems too early to be anything else.

Not exactly. Dortmund is no way a lesser club when it comes to ticket sales. They've been topping the world like 3 years from what I've gathered. Germany as a league too.

Passion for *9* · Jul 26, 2007

Tsar said:
Is the German League Cup like the Charity Shield or Super Coppa? I guess it can't be as Stuttgart aren't in it, but it just seems too early to be anything else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiere_Ligapokal

Tsar · Jul 26, 2007

Jasper said:
Not exactly. Dortmund is no way a lesser club when it comes to ticket sales. They've been topping the world like 3 years from what I've gathered. Germany as a league too.

Yes I know ticket sales are far higher in Germany than anywhere else, and Dortmund is always high because they have a huge stadium. But by lesser club I mean in support, income, squad, everthing. But the question you have to ask is why can Dortmund shift 15,000 more season tickets than Milan - one of the biggest clubs in the World? Its not that Milan don't have the room - the Sansa is infact a good bit bigger than the Westfallen. Its not that there isn't the fans - Milan is the 2nd biggest supported club in Italy, and play in its most populated city. And its not about cost, Italy is overall far cheaper than Germany, and certainly England and Spain. So whats the problem in Italy then, I say Italy as Milan is actually doing better than any other club in serie A last I checked.

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I see, its nothing like the Scottish & English League Cups then, thats what threw me off, I knew of this competition only by its German name.

Matmil04 · Jul 26, 2007

Tsar said:
Yes I know ticket sales are far higher in Germany than anywhere else, and Dortmund is always high because they have a huge stadium. But by lesser club I mean in support, income, squad, everthing. But the question you have to ask is why can Dortmund shift 15,000 more season tickets than Milan - one of the biggest clubs in the World? Its not that Milan don't have the room - the Sansa is infact a good bit bigger than the Westfallen. Its not that there isn't the fans - Milan is the 2nd biggest supported club in Italy, and play in its most populated city. And its not about cost, Italy is overall far cheaper than Germany, and certainly England and Spain. So whats the problem in Italy then, I say Italy as Milan is actually doing better than any other club in serie A last I checked.

The reason is 1-that the annual rate of normal italian worker is way too inferior than the germen ones 2-there is still the shadow of the "Calciopoli" that made the people disinterested in football,actually in the last month i've heard that Football isnt anymore the more practised sport in italy that gives another point why there isnt much interest in football here in italy nowadays

Passion for *9* · Jul 26, 2007

Matmil04 said:
The reason is 1-that the annual rate of normal italian worker is way too inferior than the germen ones (...)

I don't think Italian + German average income is that far apart, German clubs are simply less greedy, i.e. tickets are reasonably priced + income structure is taken into account (discounts for children, students, retired folks 65+, handicapped etc with free public transport included for all ticket holders)

Example season ticket :

Stuttgart HT Mitte Unterrang : EUR 571,20 for full-paying non-members
AC Milan Tier 1 Red (comparable seating + view) : EUR 1350

Borussia Dortmund Kat. 1 : EUR 526
AC Milan Tier 1 Orange : EUR 780

edika_kaka · Jul 28, 2007

bayern munich will win this time..
so watch out

Rex · Jul 30, 2007

Nicely done by the Bavarians to face this season. Get ready to kick ass!!

GreatKalu · Aug 3, 2007

Watched a Werder friendly as well. Carlos Alberto isn't playing as a forward or striker as expected as he seemed to slot in midfield at times behind Diego. Interesting to see what Thomas is conjuring up.

Rex · Aug 4, 2007

Carlos Alberto is indeed a midfielder. As I said previously...

GreatKalu · Aug 4, 2007

So Klose's replacement hasn't arrived yet? Or am I just not seeing something ...

GW · Aug 4, 2007

So far two teams form 1. Bundesliga lost in 1. round of German cup.

Leverkusen and Cotbuss are out. Leverkusen lost against St. Pauli 1-0, Cotbuss lost against Essen after penalty shootout.

Rest of the teams including Bremen and Stuttgart are through.

GreatKalu · Aug 6, 2007

Oh my ... Bayern in bit of a delicate situation.

Klose strikes to level proceedings. Lucio goes close.

FT 1-1. Burghausen's keeper, if I heard correctly, 19 years of age, had an exceptional game.

Big chance for Van Buyten, just brought on as a forward.

AET 1-1. Penalties. So its Kahn vs Reemann

Bayern wins 4-3 though it took seven penalties each to separate the sides. Reemann scored Burghausen's fifth penalty

He and a Lithuanian central defender impressed.

GW · Aug 10, 2007

Today is the first game of the new Bundesliga season.
And what a game to start with.
Stuttgart against Schalke. First and second team from last season.

Tommorow two other candidates for title are playing their games. Bayern is playing against Hansa Rostock at Alianz Arena.
Bremen has much tougher job. They are playing away against Bochum.

dino-diavolo · Aug 10, 2007

Schalke will win, they must win

i hoper bayern will crash and burn :mad:

dino-diavolo · Aug 10, 2007

ok it ended 2:2
kobiashvili and rakitic for schalke
khedira and pardo for stuttgart

Matmil04 · Aug 10, 2007

Great goal by Raktic.

great game to start the Bundesliga.

INsider · Aug 10, 2007

guess i missed all the action as i only saw the 1st half

bummer

does any1 know how long gomez will be out?

vani_pirlo_21 · Aug 10, 2007

dino-diavolo said:
ok it ended 2:2
kobiashvili and rakitic for schalke
khedira and pardo for stuttgart

nice to see Pardo scoring

keep on like that

how did Osorio play?

Matmil04 · Aug 11, 2007

Luca Toni scored ....1-0 to Bayern

Aapert · Aug 11, 2007

I watched bayern vs. rostock and I have to say that bayern now has a team wich is going to be hard to beat. They were very good. And Ribery played absolutely stunning game.

dino-diavolo · Aug 11, 2007

Aapert said:
I watched bayern vs. rokstock and I have to say that bayern now has a team wich is going to be hard to beat. They were very good. And Ribery played absolutely stunning game.

rostock isn't the team to test te limits of Bayern...let's wait till te big games come... Go Schalke!

Matmil04 · Aug 11, 2007

I have to say that the Toni-Klose attacking power is there to see. you're right it was predicted that Bayern would have won the game but their attacking movement is just formidable, Ribery, Ze Roberto has already adapted nicely

dino-diavolo · Aug 11, 2007

Matmil04 said:
I have to say that the Toni-Klose attacking power is there to see. you're right it was predicted that Bayern would have won the game but their attacking movement is just formidable, Ribery, Ze Roberto has already adapted nicely

Toni and Ribery are new comers, and they adapted just great, ze roberto and klose have experience in the bundesliga ...
ribery is for me already the best player in the bundesliga...great pace, dribilings, pasing, inteligence...great! :star:

Dora · Aug 11, 2007

i'm impressed with how rakitić adapted in schalke, and that he already scored, i'm excited to see him playing for the nt, and he'll already get a chance in the coming friendly with Bosnia&Herzegovina cause Kranjčar is injured

albion tifo · Aug 13, 2007

Im impressed with Bayern start, they just will be No:1 this year in Bundesliga and fur sure Uefa cup.

crazy4milan · Aug 13, 2007

albion tifo said:
Im impressed with Bayern start, they just will be No:1 this year in Bundesliga and fur sure Uefa cup.

They have to win both, with that team and all the investement, they have to win both.

GreatKalu · Aug 13, 2007

Interesting to see how far they've progressed will be the friendly against Barca on Wednesday.

Gatorbasu · Aug 14, 2007

Interesting the UEFA cup team has a better attacking option than the CL winner. Compare TONI_RIBERA combo as oppose to RONALDO_GILA option !!

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