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Old 09-01-2017, 04:27   #7101
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Torino sporting director said Arsenal has bid 65 million euros for belotti. Makes no sense and if wenger heard this, he would have heart attack by those numbers. Seriously is he any good and what type of player is he?
No he is a 15 mil striker at best. He would struggle in epl.
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Old 09-01-2017, 18:48   #7102
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No he is a 15 mil striker at best. He would struggle in epl.
Would you guys stop with the EPL nonsense? They're only a little better than current Serie A and that is because they got shitloads of money and Serie A teams got a terrible management for the last 10 years.

A close-to-retirement Zlatan is top scorer. Juventus of 2 years ago would be champion by now, if it played in EPL.

Even Bojan Krkic is doing much better there than he did in Serie A and that guy is the epitome of fragility.


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Old 11-01-2017, 09:42   #7103
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Old 11-01-2017, 12:47   #7104
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Would you guys stop with the EPL nonsense? They're only a little better than current Serie A and that is because they got shitloads of money and Serie A teams got a terrible management for the last 10 years.

A close-to-retirement Zlatan is top scorer. Juventus of 2 years ago would be champion by now, if it played in EPL.

Even Bojan Krkic is doing much better there than he did in Serie A and that guy is the epitome of fragility.
Given his style of play, he wont be successful in epl. He just isnt suited to the epl game. He is alright in a slow tempo league. I am not saying that epl is better than serie a in terms of level of play but italian players generally dont do well in england. Vice versa with players from epl. Totally different setup and takes years to get acclimatized to the league and top clubs cannot afford to be patient. They expect immediate results.
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Old 11-01-2017, 13:26   #7105
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Given his style of play, he wont be successful in epl. He just isnt suited to the epl game. He is alright in a slow tempo league. I am not saying that epl is better than serie a in terms of level of play but italian players generally dont do well in england. Vice versa with players from epl. Totally different setup and takes years to get acclimatized to the league and top clubs cannot afford to be patient. They expect immediate results.
I don't think you've seen Belotti play.

He is strong, fast, quick feet, good movement, clinical in front of goal. In short, he has all the attributes needed in a modern CF. I don't see how his style of play isn't suited to the PL. Even an average CF like Pelle was reasonably successful in the PL.

It could take him some time to adjust to a new environment. Also, it remains to be be seen whether he can handle the pressure of playing for a big club. But I think he would do well in England.
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Old 11-01-2017, 14:45   #7106
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I don't think you've seen Belotti play.

He is strong, fast, quick feet, good movement, clinical in front of goal. In short, he has all the attributes needed in a modern CF. I don't see how his style of play isn't suited to the PL. Even an average CF like Pelle was reasonably successful in the PL.

It could take him some time to adjust to a new environment. Also, it remains to be be seen whether he can handle the pressure of playing for a big club. But I think he would do well in England.
In the PL there has been many players who had good spells like Pelle and Bojan. But both of them failed. Pelle after one season became benched and really poor and Bojan hasnt been a starter for stoke for a long time and is about to leave them for lack of playing time. Historically Italian players has struggled in England. its just not what they are used to.....In England you dont think when you play. You just run and play. This isnt natural for someone educated with Italian football.
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I don't think you've seen Belotti play.

He is strong, fast, quick feet, good movement, clinical in front of goal. In short, he has all the attributes needed in a modern CF. I don't see how his style of play isn't suited to the PL. Even an average CF like Pelle was reasonably successful in the PL.

It could take him some time to adjust to a new environment. Also, it remains to be be seen whether he can handle the pressure of playing for a big club. But I think he would do well in England.
Pelle was good for one season. So was bojan. Look at both of them now. They got found at. Bad examples. They are simply not good enough and neither is belotti. He is far too overrated. He is decent at best. He relies too much on his physique and lacks the skill to hold up and link up play. Yes he has those tools mentioned above but it is not at an adequate level to perform well for top tier clubs.
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Old 11-01-2017, 17:22   #7108
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As long as you are athletic and can be your man one on one you can score a decent amount in the premier league. The only adjustment whatsoever is the speed of play, players who don't think quick will suck. But belotti has everything to be awesome in the epl, the same league where an aging Defoe and Charlie Austin are usually toward the top of the scoring charts
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Old 11-01-2017, 17:59   #7109
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Would you guys stop with the EPL nonsense? They're only a little better than current Serie A and that is because they got shitloads of money and Serie A teams got a terrible management for the last 10 years.

A close-to-retirement Zlatan is top scorer. Juventus of 2 years ago would be champion by now, if it played in EPL.

Even Bojan Krkic is doing much better there than he did in Serie A and that guy is the epitome of fragility.
Thats not a valid argument though. It pisses me off when PL fanboys say "but look at x, hes doing so well in Serie A, it MUST be a horrible league". Yet you guys do the exact same thing in reverse situations.

Each league has it's own characteristics and certain players thrive while others don't. It's also team specific IN that league.

Almost all the English players though are the epitome of average and overhyped. But the foreign talent in the PL is very much real and thats the main difference between the two leagues. Aguero, Silva, Coutihno, Ibra, Costa, Hazard etc. But it's not a massive discrepancy but one worth noting.
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In the PL there has been many players who had good spells like Pelle and Bojan. But both of them failed. Pelle after one season became benched and really poor and Bojan hasnt been a starter for stoke for a long time and is about to leave them for lack of playing time. Historically Italian players has struggled in England. its just not what they are used to.....In England you dont think when you play. You just run and play. This isnt natural for someone educated with Italian football.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

Historically the PL has never been a popular destination for top Italian footballers. In recent years, we have seen average Italians like Borini, Aquilani, Zaza, etc move to England. De Rossi, Marchisio for example could've done well there.

The current bunch of young Italians seem very talented and I think players like Belotti, Bernardeschi, Romagnoli etc. could do well in the PL. I think Belotti going to Arsenal is very unlikely, but I'm sure Conte will sign some top Italian player if he stays in Chelsea for a few seasons.
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Old 11-01-2017, 18:34   #7111
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Pelle was good for one season. So was bojan. Look at both of them now. They got found at. Bad examples. They are simply not good enough and neither is belotti. He is far too overrated. He is decent at best. He relies too much on his physique and lacks the skill to hold up and link up play. Yes he has those tools mentioned above but it is not at an adequate level to perform well for top tier clubs.
Pelle started declining in his second season, but still got 11 goals and 6 assists in the limited opportunities he got. I didn't use Bojan's example. Anyway, the discussion is not about Pelle or Bojan. Belotti is much more talented than them.

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Old 12-01-2017, 00:03   #7112
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Arsenal have denied making a club record 55million bid for Italy international Andrea Belotti.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/09/arsena...#ixzz4VUsaLQqw


LMAO... why go for some turin fodder. when you can get world class players for that amount of money.


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Old 12-01-2017, 08:01   #7113
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Pelle started declining in his second season, but still got 11 goals and 6 assists in the limited opportunities he got. I didn't use Bojan's example. Anyway, the discussion is not about Pelle or Bojan. Belotti is much more talented than them.
Pelle still got found out. Thats the point. No one rates him. He is average and belotti really isnt much better. I just dont see any world class qualities in him to warrant above 20 mil for his services. He is average to good at a lot of things but not great in any attribute.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:04   #7114
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LMAO... why go for some turin fodder. when you can get world class players for that amount of money.
Even gilardino was better than him when he played for parma.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic.



Historically the PL has never been a popular destination for top Italian footballers. In recent years, we have seen average Italians like Borini, Aquilani, Zaza, etc move to England. De Rossi, Marchisio for example could've done well there.



The current bunch of young Italians seem very talented and I think players like Belotti, Bernardeschi, Romagnoli etc. could do well in the PL. I think Belotti going to Arsenal is very unlikely, but I'm sure Conte will sign some top Italian player if he stays in Chelsea for a few seasons.


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I don't know why they are using the italians don't do well in epl, when in fact only the average ones went there like you mentioned. Zaza, borini, pelle etc are players we never wanted at Milan even when we had so many mediocre players. Darmian is the only "good" Italian player to somehow flop in the epl in recent seasons.

Verratti is currently the best italian player, would he flop in the epl? no faking way!.
As for belotti, he actually has all the qualities to do well in epl (hard worker, strong, decent pace etc.). He is imo better than harry kane at everything except shooting/finishing.
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harry kane is far more technical compared to belotti. Its not even close.
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harry kane is far more technical compared to belotti. Its not even close.
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Arsenal have denied making a club record 55million bid for Italy international Andrea Belotti.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/09/arsena...#ixzz4VUsaLQqw


LMAO... why go for some turin fodder. when you can get world class players for that amount of money.
like who? from CFs


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Torino sporting director said Arsenal has bid 65 million euros for belotti. Makes no sense and if wenger heard this, he would have heart attack by those numbers. Seriously is he any good and what type of player is he?
James Richardson said on Football Weekly that Torino didn't report who were the club ... believable.


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Swagger is so stubborn. Apparently Belotti is the only striker in Europes top 5 leagues to have scored 5 goals with his left, right and head. He's young, has great personality and winning mentality, he gives Milan a headache and is rated by all professionals, but nvm he's average.


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