Lionel Messi Thread - Page 4

Kuzimoto · 23-03-2010, 10:07

from the purest idea to have a thread for Messi it become a place for a f@cking cocaine and drugs discussions.
you guys are something.

Edi · 23-03-2010, 10:08

Kuzimoto · 23-03-2010, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Edi

Jesus Christ,he was born that way!!!!!!!!
I just can't believe it!!!

Madridista · 23-03-2010, 12:17

lol. He hasn't learned a new move since the age of 7.

MilanMB · 23-03-2010, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Madridista

lol. He hasn't learned a new move since the age of 7.

lol you really don't like this guy... but admit you're a little biased

he is good

Madridista · 23-03-2010, 12:53

Oh he's good, but the best? Not really, it just shows you how overrated he is when the whole world goes crazy over him destroying an amateur team like Zaragoza.

MilanMB · 23-03-2010, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Madridista

Oh he's good, but the best? Not really, it just shows you how overrated he is when the whole world goes crazy over him destroying an amateur team like Zaragoza.

Well, he have destroyed other teams as well...

It's really hard to call him overrated right now, 11 goals in 5 games? 25 goals in 24 games?

We have 3 players right now that can call themselves the best player in the world; Messo, CR and Rooney. Almost impossible to tell who is the best, but messis form right now makes him the best in my book.

Wet Ones · 23-03-2010, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Madridista

Oh he's good, but the best? Not really, it just shows you how overrated he is when the whole world goes crazy over him destroying an amateur team like Zaragoza.

Exactly. And he has been marked out on quite a few occasions by the better teams.

Now Ronaldo up until his 1998 final incident. There was the best player the world had ever seen. IMHO.

Kuzimoto · 23-03-2010, 15:01

mind madridista,he's just looking for the attention.
poor boy.

Wild · 23-03-2010, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Madridista

Oh he's good, but the best? Not really, it just shows you how overrated he is when the whole world goes crazy over him destroying an amateur team like Zaragoza.

Its doable between him & CR7.
U r acting like Messi is just another good player , he isnt , he is massive same as CR7.
And what team did CR7 destroy ?
They r playin in the same league so how many goal did CR7 score ?
How many hatrick ?
They r playin in the same league & they both have good players around em but Messi is doing a lot better , individually , & his team is still in CL.

dev1L · 23-03-2010, 15:33

messi is unique player and with rooney this season he is true leader of his team but all that stuff with calling him the best in history is not normal..

Senatore_M84 · 23-03-2010, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Wet Ones

Exactly. And he has been marked out on quite a few occasions by the better teams.

Now Ronaldo up until his 1998 final incident. There was the best player the world had ever seen. IMHO.

better than maradonna/cruyff/van basten/pirlo/ Zidane?!?!?!?!

Jasper · 23-03-2010, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Wild

Its doable between him & CR7.
U r acting like Messi is just another good player , he isnt , he is massive same as CR7.
And what team did CR7 destroy ?
They r playin in the same league so how many goal did CR7 score ?
How many hatrick ?
They r playin in the same league & they both have good players around em but Messi is doing a lot better , individually , & his team is still in CL.

It's CR9 ... if you like those stupid abbreviations.

Senatore_M84 · 23-03-2010, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Wild

Its doable between him & CR7.
U r acting like Messi is just another good player , he isnt , he is massive same as CR7.
And what team did CR7 destroy ?
They r playin in the same league so how many goal did CR7 score ?
How many hatrick ?
They r playin in the same league & they both have good players around em but Messi is doing a lot better , individually , & his team is still in CL.

MAdridista + Wet ones r underselling Messi, no doubt BUT the one thing I don't agree with is Messi is shoulders above him:

LA Liga + UCL (I am not counting copa del rep and club world cup)
C.Ronaldo 24 games- 22 goals, 5 assists

L.Messi- 31 games, 29 goals, 9 assists

Both are phenomenal but everyone wants to discount fact Ronaldo 1) has been hurt and it hasn't effected him. 2) Came into a brand new team with 6 new faces in starting 11 and 3) with all the weight on his shoulders and delivers every game he has played.

On the opposite, messi has had same team (+ ibra) his whole career, particularly same tactic and midfield feeding him. We all know, continuity>all in football.

Messi is great and more exciting to watch but for me it's a no brainer on who i'd want more...(hint: The unstoppable force who wears alot more hair gel)

Wet Ones · 23-03-2010, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Milano84

better than maradonna/cruyff/van basten/pirlo/ Zidane?!?!?!?!

For me, yes. I have not seen that combination of ball control, speed, power, dribbling, intelligence etc. in ONE player. EVER.

He's had a ton of assists as well but it goes unnoticed because his goal scoring record is ridiculous. Plus the fact that he's been one of the top scorers in every single league he has ever played in. And if you look at most of his goals, he almost always wrong foots the keeper. And I don't think there's ever been a strike partner he's not adjusted to.

The guy was phenomenal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild

Its doable between him & CR7.
U r acting like Messi is just another good player , he isnt , he is massive same as CR7.
And what team did CR7 destroy ?
They r playin in the same league so how many goal did CR7 score ?
How many hatrick ?
They r playin in the same league & they both have good players around em but Messi is doing a lot better , individually , & his team is still in CL.

Messi 24 games / 25 goals (league) - 7 games / 4 goals (UCL)
CR 18 games / 15 goals (league) - 6 games / 7 goals (UCL)

But here's the thing. Messi has been playing with this team, in this league, for over 5 years. CR has come into a new league and is playing for a team that has a bulk of the players playing with each other for the first time. New coach as well. New everything for him in fact.

For me, CR >>>> Messi

Better freekicker. Better header. Can use both feet equally well. Stronger. Apart from being able to tackle, he's as complete as they get.

Edit: Took so long to finish this Milano already came up with something similar

dev1L · 23-03-2010, 16:04

CR also has guy like Higuain next to him who was a force last season and this season scored 20 goals from 21 game in la liga...CR in Real Madrid doesn't look like a guy who needs & wants to be top scorer in team, top scorer in la liga...i'm not saying Messi looks like he wants to but Real with Higuain have one option more and in Barcelona these days is everything about Messi so it's not weird that he scored so many goals.

ladro · 23-03-2010, 16:05

LEFT: Messi @ the age of 17
RIGHT: Messi @ the age of 21

Gimme them hormonez!

Wet Ones · 23-03-2010, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Illadro80

LEFT: Messi @ the age of 17
RIGHT: Messi @ the age of 21

Gimme them hormonez!

Is HGH all he took?

No similarities whatsoever!

Madridista · 23-03-2010, 16:13

How many goals Messi scored doesn't prove anything. If we go by that then Higuain is the second best player in the world. I just find it laughable that it took a hattrick against some minnows for people to start hailing Messi as the best in the world or even the best ever. But when Ronaldinho destroyed Siena people were like oh theyre crap. Messi will never be as good as Ronaldinho and right now Cristiano Ronaldo is miles better than that little gnome. And so are several other players.

Messi with Argentina=proof hes OVERRATED.

ladro · 23-03-2010, 16:19

Heres how he really looked around 16 or something:

Maybe 14 is more accurate.

23-03-2010, 10:08	#62
Edi AC Milan Legend Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Prague Fav. Players: Maldini,Nesta,Kaka,	I TOLD YOU HE WILL LEAD US TO GLORY AGAIN EAT YOUR WORDS NOW LOSERS

23-03-2010, 12:17	#64
Madridista Disco Join Date: Feb 2007 Fav. Players: Ronaldo, Pato, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Cassano, Drogba, Pandev, Balotelli, Benzema, Kaka, Isco	lol. He hasn't learned a new move since the age of 7. #ForeverMario

23-03-2010, 12:53	#66
Madridista Disco Join Date: Feb 2007 Fav. Players: Ronaldo, Pato, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Cassano, Drogba, Pandev, Balotelli, Benzema, Kaka, Isco	Oh he's good, but the best? Not really, it just shows you how overrated he is when the whole world goes crazy over him destroying an amateur team like Zaragoza. #ForeverMario

23-03-2010, 15:33	#71
dev1L AC Milan Icon Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Croatia	messi is unique player and with rooney this season he is true leader of his team but all that stuff with calling him the best in history is not normal.. Last edited by dev1L; 23-03-2010 at 15:36.

23-03-2010, 16:13	#79
Madridista Disco Join Date: Feb 2007 Fav. Players: Ronaldo, Pato, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Cassano, Drogba, Pandev, Balotelli, Benzema, Kaka, Isco	How many goals Messi scored doesn't prove anything. If we go by that then Higuain is the second best player in the world. I just find it laughable that it took a hattrick against some minnows for people to start hailing Messi as the best in the world or even the best ever. But when Ronaldinho destroyed Siena people were like oh theyre crap. Messi will never be as good as Ronaldinho and right now Cristiano Ronaldo is miles better than that little gnome. And so are several other players. Messi with Argentina=proof hes OVERRATED. #ForeverMario

23-03-2010, 10:07	#61
Kuzimoto Forza Milan!!!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milano Fav. Players: Ivan Gattuso, BOATENG, Maldini, Nesta, Sheva, Dida, Pippo, Pato, Borri, Silva, Ibra, Cassano	from the purest idea to have a thread for Messi it become a place for a f@cking cocaine and drugs discussions. you guys are something.

23-03-2010, 15:01	#69
Kuzimoto Forza Milan!!!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milano Fav. Players: Ivan Gattuso, BOATENG, Maldini, Nesta, Sheva, Dida, Pippo, Pato, Borri, Silva, Ibra, Cassano	mind madridista,he's just looking for the attention. poor boy.

23-03-2010, 16:04	#76
dev1L AC Milan Icon Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Croatia	CR also has guy like Higuain next to him who was a force last season and this season scored 20 goals from 21 game in la liga...CR in Real Madrid doesn't look like a guy who needs & wants to be top scorer in team, top scorer in la liga...i'm not saying Messi looks like he wants to but Real with Higuain have one option more and in Barcelona these days is everything about Messi so it's not weird that he scored so many goals.

23-03-2010, 16:05	#77
ladro AC Milan Icon Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Slo	LEFT: Messi @ the age of 17 RIGHT: Messi @ the age of 21 Gimme them hormonez!

23-03-2010, 16:19	#80
ladro AC Milan Icon Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Slo	Heres how he really looked around 16 or something: Maybe 14 is more accurate.