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View Poll Results: Who will win the EPL title this year?
Manchester City 35 31.25%
Chelsea 49 43.75%
Arsenal 2 1.79%
Manchester United 12 10.71%
Liverpool 6 5.36%
Other 8 7.14%
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:43   #10161
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You've all bought success. You can't expect teams like City, Chelsea, Leeds, Liverpool, Milan, Madrid and Barcelona to have as much class and dignity as Manchester United. It's just not possible...
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:48   #10162
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It's not like Manutd don't spend.

And they're not even in the same bracket class-wise.


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Old 21-05-2012, 21:48   #10163
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Paddy Crerand( #MUFC reporter) just said on MUTV that Eden Hazard to Manchester City for 38 million is a done deal. #CFC #MUFC #MCFC

Who's this Paddy fellow? And is he reliable?
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:51   #10164
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Paddy Crerand( #MUFC reporter) just said on MUTV that Eden Hazard to Manchester City for 38 million is a done deal. #CFC #MUFC #MCFC

Who's this Paddy fellow? And is he reliable?
Played for United from 63-71. Good mates with a lot of ex City players from that period. He isn't going to lie, it's whether his 'sources' are the ones who're bullshitting.

He got Nasri wrong last year, but then it did seem like we were going to get him until City came in and threw an extra 0 on his contract.

Basically, fuck knows.

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It's not like Manutd don't spend.

And they're not even in the same bracket class-wise.
pffft

You wouldn't know anything about class anyway
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:55   #10165
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Paddy Crerand( #MUFC reporter) just said on MUTV that Eden Hazard to Manchester City for 38 million is a done deal. #CFC #MUFC #MCFC

Who's this Paddy fellow? And is he reliable?
Ex United player, and probably less reliable than Eden Hazard, who says he doesn't know where he's going yet.
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:56   #10166
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You wouldn't know anything about class anyway
Is that because I'm from Oxford and you're from Manchester?


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Old 21-05-2012, 21:56   #10167
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^Rudi Garcia, Lille manager said four clubs want him and right after Chelsea won the CL, Hazard seemed to have changed his mind. He didn't name the 4rth club but I'm sure that City are favs regardless.

Also heard that there is going to be a friendly between City and Lille.
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:57   #10168
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That's a bit elitist.

You're league positions in the the few seasons before Berlusconi came in were 8th, 5th, and 7th. Before that, you had been relegated to Serie B.

Aswell as some great players coming through, you also bought Papin, Rossi, Boban, Savicevic, Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Lentini, Desailly, Baggio, Laudrup, Weah, Ancelotti, Donadoni, within a 10 year period. Imagine the value of those players in today's market?

You basically did what City and Chelsea have done, and that is spend whatever was necessary to become a successful team, which over a period of time would be able to use that success to be able to financially sustain itself.

And the statement about class. :

What's classy about Totonero and Calciopoli? Sorry not trying to have a dig, but you can't just make throw away statements like that. It's like you think football only began to exist from the moment you started watching it.
When people have a go at City/Chelsea for buying success without realising Milan's history, it is a bit foolish, however whilst Milan also bought success, I think the difference is how many of the key players in the successes were brought through the ranks, the likes of Baresi, Maldini, Tassotti, for example. City don't have anything the likes of this in aid of their most recent titles. Especially the first two I mentioned were complete legacies in football and would walk into any historic world XI.


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Old 21-05-2012, 21:58   #10169
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Why does Man city have 3 stars on their crest? did they win a bunch of titles before 1950?
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:59   #10170
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^Rudi Garcia, Lille manager said four clubs want him and right after Chelsea won the CL, Hazard seemed to have changed his mind. He didn't name the 4rth club but I'm sure that City are favs regardless.

Also heard that there is going to be a friendly between City and Lille.
Yeah there's definitely a City vs Lille friendly.

I don't think he's changed his mind. He's just being a twat because we won't give him or his agent stupid money. Everything else was supposedly sorted.
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:59   #10171
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Tassotti wasn't our youth, but he was bought young and way before Berlu.


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Old 21-05-2012, 22:01   #10172
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Is that because I'm from Oxford and you're from Manchester?
Please don't quote me. You haven't earned the right.

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Because it looks pretty.
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Old 21-05-2012, 22:03   #10173
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When people have a go at City/Chelsea for buying success without realising Milan's history, it is a bit foolish, however whilst Milan also bought success, I think the difference is how many of the key players in the successes were brought through the ranks, the likes of Baresi, Maldini, Tassotti, for example. City don't have anything the likes of this in aid of their most recent titles. Especially the first two I mentioned were complete legacies in football and would walk into any historic world XI.
I agree with that, but on the flip side, showering your team with players likeRijkaard, Gullit, Van Basten, Papin, Savicevic, Boban etc allows players like Maldini to have the platform to become greats.


Just like Micah Richards looks much better now in a team with Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure, etc...in comparison to a team with Richard Dunne and Joey Barton.
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Old 21-05-2012, 22:05   #10174
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It's a star for everytime we've ruined football
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Old 21-05-2012, 22:05   #10175
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Please don't quote me. You haven't earned the right.



Because it looks pretty.
I do find it funny how much of a joke you are, tbh.

You're like the kid that David locked under the stairs.


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Old 21-05-2012, 22:06   #10176
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Tassotti wasn't our youth, but he was bought young and way before Berlu.
oh? i was under the impression he was brought through! my bad!


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I agree with that, but on the flip side, showering your team with players likeRijkaard, Gullit, Van Basten, Papin, Savicevic, Boban etc allows players like Maldini to have the platform to become greats.


Just like Micah Richards looks much better now in a team with Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure, etc...in comparison to a team with Richard Dunne and Joey Barton.
Yeah I was gonna allude to the fact that the players brought in raised the game of those around them. I mean seriously, Gareth Barry? No Toure and he looks Championship quality.


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Old 21-05-2012, 22:07   #10177
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I agree with that, but on the flip side, showering your team with players likeRijkaard, Gullit, Van Basten, Papin, Savicevic, Boban etc allows players like Maldini to have the platform to become greats.


Just like Micah Richards looks much better now in a team with Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure, etc...in comparison to a team with Richard Dunne and Joey Barton.
That reminds me...does Damocles still want the Arabs to resign over the sale of Dunne? That thousand word essay he sent to the club calling for their resignation was a real tearjerker.

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I do find it funny how much of a joke you are, tbh.

You're like the kid that David locked under the stairs.
I'm more like Harry Potter tbh. I'm magical. Now run along and count your spots

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Old 21-05-2012, 22:09   #10178
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It's like Milan fans crying over the sale of bonera


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Old 21-05-2012, 22:16   #10179
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It's like Milan fans crying over the sale of bonera
Hahaha Dunne was a phenom for 3 seasons at City. I kid you not.
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Old 21-05-2012, 22:19   #10180
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Hahaha Dunne was a phenom for 3 seasons at City. I kid you not.
He was the best CB in the league in his first season with Villa too. In the right system he's immense.
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