Vincenzo Montella Thread

acmilano84 · Sep 24, 2017

No reason to keep Montella. He cannot put up a stable formation and choice of players until now. Complete waste of time. F and M they have given the best possible player to him and Montella job is to blend them together asap. However he is so indecisive no matter on choosing his formation or on field decision. No choice but sack.

Sage · Sep 24, 2017

if milan dont beat roma and at least draw with inter, no chance for 4th.

this guy will be sacked by christmas

AC Kid · Sep 24, 2017

Bitchenzo Fucktella

CanUNoTouch · Sep 24, 2017

Sage said:
if milan dont beat roma and at least draw with inter, no chance for 4th.

this guy will be sacked by christmas

Just in time to play Santa for Christmas and beyond.

necromancer · Sep 24, 2017

I don't care if it's Silva or Cutrone but you need to play two proper strikers if you're going to play this formation dude. I liked Fassone's comments today though. Made it clear Montella and the team can't fuck around anymore.

Massaro94 · Sep 24, 2017

http://forum.acmilan-online.com/showpost.php?p=2759002&postcount=1144

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justhope · Sep 24, 2017

this game was disastrous and actually in Serie A we didnt actually had a good game yet.
Europa league competition was shit until this point and that;s why we dominated.

One thing though, when RnB complains, guys have no clue what their talking about.
The borini-abate change actually made sense at that point. noobs picking on borini sub just cause they like to bitch a lot

leaf · Sep 24, 2017

necromancer said:
I don't care if it's Silva or Cutrone but you need to play two proper strikers if you're going to play this formation dude. I liked Fassone's comments today though. Made it clear Montella and the team can't fuck around anymore.

Fabio · Sep 24, 2017

justhope said:
this game was disastrous and actually in Serie A we didnt actually had a good game yet.
Europa league competition was shit until this point and that;s why we dominated.

One thing though, when RnB complains, guys have no clue what their talking about.
The borini-abate change actually made sense at that point. noobs picking on borini sub just cause they like to bitch a lot

ibelongtomilan · Sep 24, 2017

A better milan need a better coach

voom · Sep 24, 2017

1 shots on goal against Doria.Montella out.Milan has no game,and no standard lineup.Every game new starting lineups.This was his golden chance to show that he is capable coach worth of club like Milan,but unfortunatly he is mediocre coach.

Massaro94 · Sep 24, 2017

ibelongtomilan said:
A better milan need a better coach

Tuchel

Goodfella · Sep 24, 2017

necromancer said:
I don't care if it's Silva or Cutrone but you need to play two proper strikers if you're going to play this formation dude.

Ideally one of them has fantasista qualities, like Dybala and previously Tevez for Juve. Our CFs don't.
Suso lacks "grinta", "stamina", "work rate", "humility" or whatever you want to call it, for this system.

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We lack WBs for 3-5-2 with Conti and Calabria out.
We lack mezz'ali and wide players for any variation of 4-3-something, including 4-3-1-2.

This is no excuse for Montella however, because he clearly had a lot of say on arrivals/departures.

justhope · Sep 24, 2017

3-4-3 lets goooo

Goodfella · Sep 25, 2017

justhope said:
3-4-3 lets goooo

We lack RWB for that as well, but a return to the 4-3-3/3-4-3 of last season might be the closest thing to a proper solution.

Hakan - Kal/Silv/Cut - Suso
Bona - Biglia - Kessie
RR - Rom?/Bon? - Bon?/Mus? - Abate

Hakan - Kal/Silv/Cut - Suso
Bona - Biglia - Kessie - Abate
RR - Bon - Mus?

Not sure if Bona and Hakan can coexist on the same flank though.
Not even sure if half of these players are good enough for an ambitious team.

Ash · Sep 25, 2017

we fucking lack players for every bloody formation

Down to some great team building by F&M :fp:

ibelongtomilan · Sep 25, 2017

Ash said:
we fucking lack players for every bloody formation

Down to some great team building by F&M

Blame F&M instead :fp:

Are you actually this much desperate? :lol:

Ash · Sep 25, 2017

ibelongtomilan said:
Blame F&M instead
Are you actually this much desperate?

4-3-3 - wheres the LW?
3-5-2 - Wheres the LCM/LWB/SS (RR is not a LW)
3-4-3 - wheres the LW?

What exactly is Hakan's role? Clearly isnt a CM and neither a LW
Why did we have to sell Niang (despite how average he is) if we dont have any other fuckin player who can play on that side?
Why sell Kucka when you cannot bother to buy any decent backup for Kessie? (who is being run into the ground)

Suso and Bona were our best players last season. But no, instead of buying players that could best utilize their qualities lets buy a gazillion players which requires a formation change and start from scratch.

What was the bigger priority? To get a top CF and LW or a glorified defensive leader who apparently cannot even defend?

The squad from last season just needed improvements in CF, LW, RCM, LCM, FBs. And depth players

We started well by buying RR, Kessie and Conti who were what we needed. After that everything went haywire and was just opportunistic signings reminiscent of Galliani albeit of better quality.

Really hope Silva comes through but the last thing this team needed was spending 38m on 'prospects'. Do that shit once you have qualified for the CL.

I am not absolving Montella of the blame. He has plenty to do with how shit we are playing but lets not pretend the squad was built with any cohesive plan either.

Mark18 · Sep 25, 2017

this is why conte bigger than Montella, he cant be above players (suso and Jack), if he could..he would benched both forever..sell him in january because doesnt fit his vision.

ibelongtomilan · Sep 25, 2017

No no
U just have to stop sucking his fucking piece of shit formation 4-3-3. I didnt blame 4-3-3 in general, i blamed montellas 4-3-3.
Do not pretend like we did something special last season with this formation. It was absolutely average, disappointed even. We had some good results vs big team but it was mostly individual plays and we were inconsistent af.
We are having a pretty good squad right now and montella has to deliver. He needs to find what's best for our team. Why are you so sure if we bought auba, belotti etc and wingers we play better than we do right now? In your dream? Or it's just because they are your favorite players?

milanator · Sep 25, 2017

voom said:
1 shots on goal against Doria.Montella out.Milan has no game,and no standard lineup.Every game new starting lineups.This was his golden chance to show that he is capable coach worth of club like Milan,but unfortunatly he is mediocre coach.

You do know we play every 3 days?

justhope said:
3-4-3 lets goooo

We played it in the second half today but like everything it will ned time.

ibelongtomilan said:
Blame F&M instead
Are you actually this much desperate?

They are clearly responsible? Of course bad luck played a huge part too but what you do is just scapegoating Montella.

Ronin · Sep 25, 2017

F&M just went and got what players the coach has requested. So how are they to blame? It's Montella all the way. He is also responsible for selling Kucka, who he never liked, without getting someone better for the bench.

It's all on him. No more excuses this year, he got 200m worth of gifts.

Andromeda · Sep 25, 2017

LOL .. it is to early to sack this man. But I to be honest I also a bit shocked when our board picked him as a coach. He isn't Milanista for first, and 2nd I never considered him as top class player when he used to play. Mediocre maybe but never top class player. I wonder why on earth that we didn't try another our ex players to become a coach.. we cant forget about Brocchi (say whattttt ...Brochhi .. everytime I hear he was coached I always feel goosebumps thinking about how that our board gambled so much

), Pippo and Seedorf's failure I always think that wasn't pure their fault .. it was the end of the era .. (all good players passed their peak performances and we didn't ready for the 2nd layer).

Goshhh .. I do really miss the scudetto..

Last time I think in Allegri's era
Let alone CL title .. I think Carletto the last one who brought that trophy to us.. *sigh* and that scumbag refused to took over this team again because he was completely understand that we didn't have any good players before this season coming.

Ash · Sep 25, 2017

Ronin said:
F&M just went and got what players the coach has requested. So how are they to blame? It's Montella all the way. He is also responsible for selling Kucka, who he never liked, without getting someone better for the bench.

It's all on him. No more excuses this year, he got 200m worth of gifts.

Pretty sure he asked for a LW and a LCM which he didnt get

Ronin · Sep 25, 2017

Andromeda said:
I never considered him as top class player when he used to play. Mediocre maybe but never top class player. .

Didn't he say he was better than Pippo?

Ash said:
Pretty sure he asked for a LW and a LCM which he didnt get

How are you sure about that? What's with the Hakan buy then?

Whatever the formation, this squad is not that bad to struggle so much with low to mid level teams.

Boban1982 · Sep 25, 2017

The new owners mean business so Montella has to improve quickly.

Colossus · Sep 25, 2017

Variations of 442 should also be considered. Borini/Suso at right mid and Hakan/jack at left mid. This way the lack of athleticism for two way work in our deeper midfielders (biglia, loca, monto) won't be as exposed and we could rest Kessie. Monto and Biglia could then play together to rest Kessie if needed. Still think the 352 should be the primary formation, but with the amount of injuries we have in the fullback areas we should also consider alternate shapes.

milanator · Sep 25, 2017

Ronin said:
F&M just went and got what players the coach has requested. So how are they to blame? It's Montella all the way. He is also responsible for selling Kucka, who he never liked, without getting someone better for the bench.

It's all on him. No more excuses this year, he got 200m worth of gifts.

-F&M have the final say in transfers so its ultimately their responsibility.
-Montella had a say in transfers but that they only followed his requests was never said, in contrary Borini for example was Mirabellis wish.
-Montella can´t get anybody, he can state his opinion about players but getting the player is the job of F&M

The squad clearly has holes but we can´t buy 20 players in one window, all parties did a good job so far, now we have to keep calm.

That he got so many new players is a damn good excuse.

Edit: We won against every small team so far, we only struggle against teams good enough to expose our natural lack of automatisms and make use of it.

mato · Sep 25, 2017

terrible tactic...

justhope · Sep 25, 2017

Goodfella said:
We lack RWB for that as well, but a return to the 4-3-3/3-4-3 of last season might be the closest thing to a proper solution.

Hakan - Kal/Silv/Cut - Suso
Bona - Biglia - Kessie
RR - Rom?/Bon? - Bon?/Mus? - Abate

Hakan - Kal/Silv/Cut - Suso
Bona - Biglia - Kessie - Abate
RR - Bon - Mus?

Not sure if Bona and Hakan can coexist on the same flank though.
Not even sure if half of these players are good enough for an ambitious team.

4-3-3 now maybe because the injury to conti. abate and calabria are absolutely 0 going forward so they wont work as RWB.
Maybe force borini there if he can show comitment to the defensive end, the work rate has already shown.

what is it against RR as WB? he s not the fastest man out there, but he s solid defensively and sends good crosses.

and I agree, hakan and bona are too slow and static to be played together, that's why the 3-4-3 will keep at least one of them on the bench.

bona- Kal/Silv/Cut - Suso
RR - Biglia - Kessie - Borini/Abate
Roma - Bon - Mus?

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