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Old 27-08-2020, 21:12   #28701
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Lol we really have no money huh, city disregarding ffp and offering 100m plus 100m salary and multiple playera while we are dry loaning brahim diaz and praying for a tonali loan when hes right there for the taking


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:12   #28702
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Looking at Juninho highlights... man, that guy's FKs were out of this world.

This takes me another thought - although the overall level of the players today has increased (more balanced I'd say), am I the only one who thinks that there are far less "special" players today? The type that have smth different than any other. There's no more Beckhams, Roberto Carlos, Juninhos, Maldinis
maybe its today 433/4231 and 442 variations problem
its just play wide, win oneonone and cross/shot ...


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:13   #28703
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I the last thing Maldini wants is a TV feud with Raiola.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:17   #28704
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I think Milan primavera has done a good, very good job. In fact I think that we could have earned much more money if the sales were right, or at right time.

Club lost Loca waaay too soon. It was obvious he has it to play in good level. Des situation made us sell him, but we coukd have earned a lot more in my books. Cutro ok, great business. Etc, etc.

I dont have a feeling Calabria can become a great fb. If he can be sold for 15 thats great! Or loaned, then they will see. He had flashes and I had hope, but Milan cant wait no more now.

They also fired a scout (Fassone fired him I think), guy who scouted Loca, Cristante, Donna, Cutro etc... Dont know why...money games.
Galliani's young Italian Milan proved to be good for Primavera.

Donnarumma, Locatelli, Cutrone, Pobega, Bellanova, Gabbia. This was the best Primavera team this century. Some of them are very good now (Donnarumma, Locatelli) others as good back-up material (Cutrone, Gabbia, Pobega?). Bellanova was a flop in Ligue 1 but has now joined Atalanta, he can still improve with Gasperini.

After the club was sold to the Chinese owners, I think they fired the scout, Bianchessi. He was doing a great job there.

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Old 27-08-2020, 21:21   #28705
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Fuck it. Ibra deserves 7m a year, GTFO. I don't mind someone asking for what they're worth and not budging. That's how everyone should be if you want to make a nice life for you and your family.


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:21   #28706
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I mean players who are very skilled and technical, this is what I wanted to say with "Brazilian"... it could be "African" today looking at "Leao type" talented youngsters

But this is missing in Italy. In attack they rarely bring some good players, Zaniolo is a rare case.


Even Balotelli and El Shaarawy before 2013 were great for Italy, considering what they had in attack or what they have now.


I always trusted defensive Italian players though. They are more intelligent.
Yeah, I totally get you. I mean, I can't see Italy producing someone like Salah, Mane, Sane, or Mbappe.

From what I've seen of Scamacca, he looks like the most promising young striker, but that was in Serie B, but he's not at the level of any of the players I mentioned above.

I don't see any electric players coming from Italy, no one has that flash of excitement, so I really agree with you--and I think the last great talent for Italy was Balotelli and SES. And both were handled really poorly. I think we should have had more patience with SES, and I think a lot of coaches took advantage of his hard-working nature which meant that he stopped trying to do daring things. He was so fixated on getting goals, and that ruined him.

Zaniolo is the rare case of Italy having some attacking talent, otherwise, you're right, Italy is just not producing anyone of the talent that it did 15-20 years ago.

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I think Milan primavera has done a good, very good job. In fact I think that we could have earned much more money if the sales were right, or at right time.

Club lost Loca waaay too soon. It was obvious he has it to play in good level. Des situation made us sell him, but we coukd have earned a lot more in my books. Cutro ok, great business. Etc, etc.

I dont have a feeling Calabria can become a great fb. If he can be sold for 15 thats great! Or loaned, then they will see. He had flashes and I had hope, but Milan cant wait no more now.

They also fired a scout (Fassone fired him I think), guy who scouted Loca, Cristante, Donna, Cutro etc... Dont know why...money games.

Azzuri lack real class players and they are too conservative at their approach.
I agree with you. I think the primavera has produced a lot of talent. I mean, if the comparison is Maldini, then no, but I think the primavera has produced a lot of useful players that we should have relied on more than what we have.

Locatelli should have been given Biglia's spot. DES got sold, but if Milan was functioning properly, he could have just been a Bonera-level player, who is useful and helps the squad.

I also think that the constant changes and problems at Milan has meant that our young players can't develop, and they have to leave in order to have a chance to do that.

Italy has major problems in producing attacking talents, there's no doubt about that.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:23   #28707
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@Samaldinho my friend...

Success of Croatia's development of the players in such small pool as u say, is not thanx to infrastructural base etc... but Im not sure God can answer how we did what we are doing ))

You think in a right and logical way but infrastructure, cro league, stadiums, camps etc in Croatia are....absimal, absurdly bad...we are faaaaar bahind modern western organisations.

But, we are super-extremely talented, it seems. Thats all, Croatians can play, thats all hahaha.

Azzuri just lack 3, 4 top forwards to accur. Del Piero, Vieri, Pippo level... Then they will be fine


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:23   #28708
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Italy, however, of the major superpowers in World Football, I think are doing the worst in terms of producing attacking talent. The fact that Italy rely on Ciro Immobile or Belotti for goals shows how poor Italy has become, in general. I mean, who is Italy's hyped up attacker these days? Chiesa? Lol. He's a nice player, I'd like him at Milan, but Italy don't even have some overhyped attacking youngster. Zaniolo is more of a CAM in my eyes, but as far as like an attacker (wingers, strikers, etc), Italy has produced nothing.
To be fair Italy has always been known more for its defense and midfield than its attackers. Can only think of Vieri, Rossi, Baggio, and Totti as the stand out talents for attackers.

But that's down to a cultural thing. The same can be said for Argentina who can produce massive amounts of attackers and very few stand out defenders and midfielders.

In short, every country specializes in producing specific types of talents.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:26   #28709
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I?ve had this argument with my friends, who are all EPL tossers. If you watched Italy and Milan growing up, then it?s extraordinarily difficult to not hold defenders to a higher standard... With Milan in particular, there was an added aesthetic to the way Nesta and Maldini played that I don?t think you can witness with any defender currently playing in Europe. Those guys seemed at times like they came down from a higher level.

I?d put Van Dijk where you said, a Stam level player that?s just below the status of legends like Nesta, Maldini, Baresi. A large part of my thinking is probably my bias toward Italian and Milan players and some level of nostalgia for my own youth influencing my thinking... Fine, sue me if I don?t consider Rio Ferdinand or Vidic to be elite all time defenders.
EPL fans are actual morons. My close friend is an Arsenal fan, and he is a better person than I am in every way (morals, ethics, friendship, etc) but when we talk about football, it's just... His incredible intelligence evaporates.

Nesta and Maldini played with art to their defending. You're talking about making defending into an art, with literally picture-perfect tackles, inch-perfect slides, they just... Those defenders don't exist anymore. I think Milan fans, when it comes to defenders, have a much higher bar for what constitutes the best in defense. What defender in the EPL comes to the level of Nesta, let alone Baresi or Maldini?

Van Dijk would be a Stam-level defender in the 2000's and late 90's. He's a great player, but he's levels below Maldini, Nesta, or even Cannavaro.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:26   #28710
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Just searched about Bianchessi, I see that he is Lazio's scout now.

Fucking Mirabelli fired him.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:28   #28711
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I think Vlašić coukd become a top pl top player, seriousely. CL levels top player. In 2, 3 years, with right coach, team etc.

Mikan should try, but shame Zvone is not here.


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:28   #28712
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Just searched about Bianchessi, I see that he is Lazio's scout now.

Fucking Mirabelli fired him.
And fired a lot of other guys too...merda bastard


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Old 27-08-2020, 21:31   #28713
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Sign Vida from Besiktas, better then Pezzella lol... fir few mln
Or Lovren better than Ramos.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:32   #28714
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This guy will be the theo of this upcoming season
Saelemaekers turned him upside down last training session.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:33   #28715
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:33   #28716
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There are quite a few reports coming out that Ibra might take over no.9 for the next season
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:33   #28717
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EPL fans are actual morons. My close friend is an Arsenal fan, and he is a better person than I am in every way (morals, ethics, friendship, etc) but when we talk about football, it's just... His incredible intelligence evaporates.

Nesta and Maldini played with art to their defending. You're talking about making defending into an art, with literally picture-perfect tackles, inch-perfect slides, they just... Those defenders don't exist anymore. I think Milan fans, when it comes to defenders, have a much higher bar for what constitutes the best in defense. What defender in the EPL comes to the level of Nesta, let alone Baresi or Maldini?

Van Dijk would be a Stam-level defender in the 2000's and late 90's. He's a great player, but he's levels below Maldini, Nesta, or even Cannavaro.
Agree with everything, except my Arsenal friend actually appreciates what you and I are discussing. The others are ManU and Chelsea fans and they do not understand.
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:34   #28718
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7m is too much but that just shows how Ibra loves this club. Not.



Btw, do you think that Ben and Tonali can play together in 4231 since they're similar?
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Old 27-08-2020, 21:35   #28719
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#Milan , tomorrow #Ibrahimovic lands in Milan. He will take the number 9 shirt

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Old 27-08-2020, 21:36   #28720
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7m is too much but that just shows how Ibra loves this club. Not.



Btw, do you think that Ben and Tonali can play together in 4231 since they're similar?
they can both play multiple roles its fine, either can slot further up or sit back


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