Hakan Çalhanoğlu Thread

Rossoneri97 · Apr 30, 2018

Colossus said:
Nope. Not saying 4312 CAM, which he does not have the dynamism or dribbling ability to play. Talking about putting him in a wide front 3 with freedom to get close to the striker. A completely different role than CAM in a 4312

so you mean a False 9??

Birsaforever · May 1, 2018

he will become a deep lying playmaker

Jasper · May 1, 2018

leaf · May 1, 2018

Birsaforever said:
he will become a deep lying playmaker

I prefer an honest playmaker

ikita · May 4, 2018

leaf said:
I prefer an honest playmaker

how about just an actual real playmaker instead?

MilanMB · May 5, 2018

Birsaforever said:
he will become a deep lying playmaker

Hmmm I don't see it

Birsaforever · May 5, 2018

MilanMB said:
Hmmm I don't see it

he's good at long passes, at long distance shot, and defending

his pace and dribbling are not that good, he will never be that good at LW ot CAM

MilanMB · May 5, 2018

Birsaforever said:
he's good at long passes, at long distance shot, and defending

his pace and dribbling are not that good, he will never be that good at LW ot CAM

he's too gritty in his defending

a pirlo type deep playmaker's best attributes are the football iq, short passing and technique. None of which Hakan excels at.

i don't don't long passes, a good distance shot and gritty defending is enough to lead the team from that position.

Ronin · May 5, 2018

Birsaforever said:
he's good at long passes, at long distance shot, and defending

his pace and dribbling are not that good, he will never be that good at LW ot CAM

I guess Rui Costa was a failure too.

You guys play too much FIFA.

Birsaforever · May 5, 2018

Ronin said:
I guess Rui Costa was a failure too.

You guys play too much FIFA.

you mean Rui Costa couldn't dribble?

i never play FIFA

joyrider · May 5, 2018

Great 1st half

very good match

joyrider · May 5, 2018

Birsaforever · May 5, 2018

MilanMB said:
he's too gritty in his defending

a pirlo type deep playmaker's best attributes are the football iq, short passing and technique. None of which Hakan excels at.

i don't don't long passes, a good distance shot and gritty defending is enough to lead the team from that position.

I think his passes and his decision making is one of the things that made him so important in the second half of this season.

Ronin · May 5, 2018

Birsaforever said:
you mean Rui Costa couldn't dribble?

i never play FIFA

I wouldn't say that was one of his main assets. Vision and passing were. If Hakan can develop that + continue improving his shot, he could be a good CAM. Not all wingers have to be super fast too.

It all depends on how the team is built and player skills emphasized. You wouldn't normally put a player like Pirlo as an anchor too.

Birsaforever · May 5, 2018

Ronin said:
I wouldn't say that was one of his main assets. Vision and passing were. If Hakan can develop that + continue improving his shot, he could be a good CAM. Not all wingers have to be super fast too.

It all depends on how the team is built and player skills emphasized. You wouldn't normally put a player like Pirlo as an anchor too.

Rui Costa was one of the finest dribbler in Serie A, he could defend the ball forever.

Not all wingers have to be super fast, but i don't see anything in Hakan that makes me think he will be great in that role. Suso is not fast, but he's very quick in the box at switching his plan between crossing or cutting inside, so that he can always find a way to do something dangerous even against multiple opponents.

Soldier_of_god · May 6, 2018

Overall pretty good season. Should keep him.

helloAgain · May 6, 2018

his decision making is quick. very good when we have switch from defense to attack. would do amazing with fast,strong and clinical attacking players.

Thenebra · May 6, 2018

Not even a debate, hakan is good enough!

Ronin · May 6, 2018

Birsaforever said:
Rui Costa was one of the finest dribbler in Serie A, he could defend the ball forever.

Not all wingers have to be super fast, but i don't see anything in Hakan that makes me think he will be great in that role. Suso is not fast, but he's very quick in the box at switching his plan between crossing or cutting inside, so that he can always find a way to do something dangerous even against multiple opponents.

I have seen him make some great through passes and, as mentioned above, he's quick at decision making, something that Bonaventura lacks. Considering this and his really good shot, I would like to see him as CAM in a 4-2-3-1, with Suso on the right, a fast technical winger on the left (someone like Insigne) and a good typical N.9 Striker like Dzeko. I can see him scoring and assisting a lot from that position.

We have the right people for the CM/DM positions, as well, in Biglia/Kessie/Loca.

Mario · May 6, 2018

love him

he just needed time and a good set up + trust shown to him

milanator · May 6, 2018

Ronin said:
I have seen him make some great through passes and, as mentioned above, he's quick at decision making, something that Bonaventura lacks. Considering this and his really good shot, I would like to see him as CAM in a 4-2-3-1, with Suso on the right, a fast technical winger on the left (someone like Insigne) and a good typical N.9 Striker like Dzeko. I can see him scoring and assisting a lot from that position.

We have the right people for the CM/DM positions, as well, in Biglia/Kessie/Loca.

4-2-3-1 is a little bit dated and never really did that well in Serie A.
I remember when we played it under Seedorf for a short period of time and the holes it caused in midfield where problematic.
Of course it can work but overall you don´t really gain much in attack (especially not a second striker) compared to a 4-3-3/4-1-4-1 but have to deal with a less compact midfield.

ChinaMilan · May 7, 2018

Ronin said:
I wouldn't say that was one of his main assets. Vision and passing were. If Hakan can develop that + continue improving his shot, he could be a good CAM. Not all wingers have to be super fast too.

It all depends on how the team is built and player skills emphasized. You wouldn't normally put a player like Pirlo as an anchor too.

probably you never watched him play.

KujaIX · May 7, 2018

He's clearly shit.

Sell back to Kebabland.

Ronin · May 7, 2018

ChinaMilan said:
probably you never watched him play.

I have. He's one of my favorite Milan players. I'm not saying he wasn't good at it, because he was indeed. I just don't think that he relied too much on it. Maybe I'm not expressing my thoughts right.

Anyway, Hakan will never be on Rui's level, but if he can achieve 70% of that level, that would be great... and I really think he's capable of doing so, but has to work hard at it.

Meriano · May 12, 2018

Ronin said:
I have. He's one of my favorite Milan players. I'm not saying he wasn't good at it, because he was indeed. I just don't think that he relied too much on it. Maybe I'm not expressing my thoughts right.

Anyway, Hakan will never be on Rui's level, but if he can achieve 70% of that level, that would be great... and I really think he's capable of doing so, but has to work hard at it.

He can get 99% of that level :lol:

Sorry but a player who always always always , prefer the selfish decision instead of playing with his teammates can change the job , soot shoot shooooooot , where is the playmaker , who thrive in passing , in vison , in shielding of the ball , where is the clever job , the clever pass , we can put hil in the basket , he exploses all our offensives , since the departure of Kaka we dont see a good playmaker , except Bona.

Ronin · May 12, 2018

Meriano said:
He can get 99% of that level

Sorry but a player who always always always , prefer the selfish decision instead of playing with his teammates can change the job , soot shoot shooooooot , where is the playmaker , who thrive in passing , in vison , in shielding of the ball , where is the clever job , the clever pass , we can put hil in the basket , he exploses all our offensives , since the departure of Kaka we dont see a good playmaker , except Bona.

You almost made a smart post and then you go and write that bold part :fp:

helloAgain · May 13, 2018

lol. hakan is 100 times better in passing than bona.

Pingu · May 20, 2018

Goal and 3 assists this game.

Has been an absolute star and pleasure to watch in the 2nd half of the season. Hopefully he can improve even more in his natural position and some better players around him too!

Fabio · May 20, 2018

He will be our main man next season. Finally showing the potential he has shown back in hamburg

WILL2K · May 20, 2018

Flawless game. With more freedom in the middle, he is going to be scary next season.

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