Massimiliano Allegri Thread II

Tantalis · Feb 13, 2016

allegri lacked in making subs, i wouldnt say he failed to adapt, against barcelona he had milan play something very similar to that of catenaccio.

Goodfella · Feb 13, 2016

They didn't exactly regress when they cashed in on Falcao without buying a replacement, but I think Simeone would love to have Costa back. They're yet to find a proper replacement.

Allan_Sombrero · Feb 13, 2016

milanicious said:
What ?

He felt cashing in on them would help improve his team and it did (the core of his team is very young and experienced) but Simeone needs a new RB and CF.

milanicious · Feb 13, 2016

Allan_Somewhere said:
He felt cashing in on them would help improve his team and it did (the core of his team is very young and experienced) but Simeone needs a new RB and CF.

Chelsea triggered the buy out clause for Costa and Luis. Atletico already brought one back and is trying to get the other back too. Atletico just had to deal with their departures by bringing replacements. They never thought that selling the best forward and best fullback on the team is a good idea.

Goodfella · Feb 13, 2016

Atletico is a weird club though.
All the money involved in their transfers in and out seem to belong to third party owners.

Allan_Sombrero · Feb 13, 2016

milanicious said:
Chelsea triggered the buy out clause for Costa and Luis. Atletico already brought one back and is trying to get the other back too. Atletico just had to deal with their departures by bringing replacements. They never thought that selling the best forward and best fullback on the team is a good idea.

Yeah they're a club that doesn't hesitate to sell if they get a good offer but they also know how to reinvest the money.

Goodfella said:
Atletico is a weird club though.
All the money involved in their transfers in and out seem to belong to third party owners.

Now that you mention it, isn't Doyen Sports heavily involved with them?

GreatKalu · Feb 13, 2016

I think the biggest question advocates for Allegri should answer is ... what made him pick Van Bomel over Pirlo? :lol:

Goodfella · Feb 13, 2016

Allan_Somewhere said:
Now that you mention it, isn't Doyen Sports heavily involved with them?

Not just them.
Qatari fund who owns Cerci, random South American investment groups, Mendes etc. Very shady club.

KujaIX · Feb 13, 2016

GreatKalu said:
I think the biggest question advocates for Allegri should answer is ... what made him pick Van Bomel over Pirlo?

Pirlo had literally been bang average for like 4 years, while MVB immediately gave the team a solid spine.

In truth, he picked Seedorf over Pirlo, as Seedorf was in great form when Pirlo was injured and Pirlo couldn't get back in the team.

He made the right choices. In hindsight, we know Pirlo did very well at Juventus but also that his heart wasn't in Milan and he'd have continued to be shit.

Plus, saying Allegri giving Pirlo to Juventus gave them the title is a bit fake as Juventus should have never won that first title.

GreatKalu · Feb 13, 2016

Uhm ... have we been witnessing the same turn of events?

Allegri convinced the Milan management that Pirlo was done. They weren't expecting him to compete at the highest levels for the next three years. That despite being fit for most his previous seasons until his last when he was out for half of the season ...

I think we know what level Pirlo played in for the ensuing three seasons ... not only for Juve but for Italy as well.

And where did the then called Boss lead us to? Well, thats for all to see ...

Mr Delicious · Feb 13, 2016

KujaIX said:
Pirlo had literally been bang average for like 4 years, while MVB immediately gave the team a solid spine.

In truth, he picked Seedorf over Pirlo, as Seedorf was in great form when Pirlo was injured and Pirlo couldn't get back in the team.

He made the right choices. In hindsight, we know Pirlo did very well at Juventus but also that his heart wasn't in Milan and he'd have continued to be shit.

Plus, saying Allegri giving Pirlo to Juventus gave them the title is a bit fake as Juventus should have never won that first title.

Apart from the blatantly absurd last sentence, good post. He just wasnt motivated to play for us. Should have cashed in to Madrid

Allan_Sombrero · Feb 13, 2016

Goodfella said:
Not just them.
Qatari fund who owns Cerci, random South American investment groups, Mendes etc. Very shady club.

The top 3 in Spain have some shady business going on (Barcelona, Real, and Atletico) but at least it's bringing success in the present. However, I do expect them to fall into hard times once their current squads grow old (both financially and football wise).

GreatKalu said:
Uhm ... have we been witnessing the same turn of events?

Allegri convinced the Milan management that Pirlo was done. They weren't expecting him to compete at the highest levels for the next three years. That despite being fit for most his previous seasons until his last when he was out for half of the season ...

I think we know what level Pirlo played in for the ensuing three seasons ... not only for Juve but for Italy as well.

And where did the then called Boss lead us to? Well, thats for all to see ...

You do know Pirlo would have been useless if he stayed with us right? Pirlo needs a mobile midfield in order to succeed. He wouldn't have had that in our 2011-12 Milan team and it's obvious why Allegri would choose van Bommel instead of Pirlo.

Our team needed an anchor more than a regista.

VultureSheva · Feb 13, 2016

Juventus' last 15 games in Serie A:
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Goals: 35
Conceded: 6
Clean sheets: 10
Top of the league!

The best coach in Europe. I'm happy that I was one from few fans against sacking him in January 2014.

Mr. Milanista · Feb 13, 2016

Congratulations to Allegri for winning yet another scudetto. Shame it is with Ladri, though.

Best coach in the world this season.

Mr Delicious · Feb 13, 2016

Jesus Christ, take your fap sessions elsewhere. Best coach in the world :lol:

Mr. Milanista · Feb 13, 2016

He is. I'm sorry that you are you and can't see that.

Mr Delicious · Feb 13, 2016

Mr. Milanista said:
He is. I'm sorry that you are you and can't see that.

I'm not blinded by fanboyism like you and Kuja are. Saying he's a better coach than Enrique this season or Ranieri who is pulling rainbows out of his ass with Leicester. All because he created a shit situation for himself beginning of the season (as he always does) only to finally meet expectations 6 months later.

Please.

Mr. Milanista · Feb 13, 2016

I will put a dead baboon at Barca and he would win the treble. Please don't bring up Enrique. Ranieri, yes, he's doing very great. Second best coach in the world this season.

General · Feb 13, 2016

Allegri does not suck.

Case closed!

New case opened:

How good is allegri? Top 5 in Europe atm?

maybe.

Mr. Milanista · Feb 13, 2016

Maybe? Bruh, 15 games won in a row. Please.

Goodfella · Feb 13, 2016

Mr Delicious said:
I'm not blinded by fanboyism like you and Kuja are. Saying he's a better coach than Enrique this season or Ranieri who is pulling rainbows out of his ass with Leicester. All because he created a shit situation for himself beginning of the season (as he always does) only to finally meet expectations 6 months later.

Please.

Enrique

VultureSheva · Feb 13, 2016

Mr Delicious said:
I'm not blinded by fanboyism like you and Kuja are. Saying he's a better coach than Enrique this season or Ranieri who is pulling rainbows out of his ass with Leicester. All because he created a shit situation for himself beginning of the season (as he always does) only to finally meet expectations 6 months later.

Please.

1. Enrique has not won 15 games in a row as I know.
2. Allegri is not playing with Messi and Neymar but with Dybala and Morata.
3. Ranieri is doing well in a league where there are no tactics at all, they started the season with fodders like Rodgers, Van Gaal, Pellegrini etc.

VultureSheva · Feb 14, 2016

Simeone, Allegri, Sarri, Ranieri.

The bests.

General · Feb 14, 2016

Should probably water down the allegri argument and say he's top 5 in form vs an overall career top 5 for active coaches

But...

Allegri has done this twice now- taken a team that had a shitty start and dramatically... No... Historically turned things around.

that counts for something. He's damn good.

I think it may be time for people to start eating some crow.

joyrider · Feb 14, 2016

VultureSheva said:
Simeone, Allegri, Sarri, Ranieri.

The bests.

very underated is pochettino

Ender · Feb 14, 2016

I'm not gonna talk about how good Allegri is, cause I'm too pissed right now

3 are the moments that made our last 5 years
-1- Not selling Pato
-2- Not investing one dime after getting to CL after the 2012-13 season despite passing the playoffs.
-3- Pushing out Allegri to replace him with Seedorf/Inzaghi :fp:

We could have built something and we fucked it up.

Grazie Presidente!!!

VultureSheva · Feb 14, 2016

Ronin said:
What I didn't like about him is that he is a bit limited and it shows when he doesn't have a very good squad or when he is losing a game. Rarely have I seen him turn the game around after losing the 1st half for example.

If he has the players he needs, then he's pretty good at creating a winning plan for the game. Only problem is when something unexpected happens...

Considering this, if Juve keep improving the squad or if he goes to a richer team, I think he can win the CL. But I wouldn't like him too much even then.

Are you serious?

In the last years I have seen Milan only with Allegri scoring goals in minutes 70-90 to get a draw or a win, many times 2 goals. It never happened with Mihajlovic or Inzaghi.

KujaIX · Feb 14, 2016

In his first season here, Allegri never came back from a losing position to win.

This changed with the Lecce game(I believe) and from then he was very good at saving results.

Ragamuffin · Feb 14, 2016

Ender said:
I'm not gonna talk about how good Allegri is, cause I'm too pissed right now

3 are the moments that made our last 5 years
-1- Not selling Pato
-2- Not investing one dime after getting to CL after the 2012-13 season despite passing the playoffs.
-3- Pushing out Allegri to replace him with Seedorf/Inzaghi

We could have built something and we fucked it up.

Grazie Presidente!!!

Hope you dont mind, i will add one of my own

Berlu dictating that the team play 4-3-1-2 after we made it to CL that season. Completely ruined everything they worked for during the season along with that horrible transfer campaign

Mr Delicious · Feb 15, 2016

VultureSheva said:
1. Enrique has not won 15 games in a row as I know.

Yeah, youre right. He went 28 in all competitions

2. Allegri is not playing with Messi and Neymar but with Dybala and Morata.

As if that makes a difference.

3. Ranieri is doing well in a league where there are no tactics at all, they started the season with fodders like Rodgers, Van Gaal, Pellegrini etc.

Honestly, is this even worth refuting? Ranieri has a subpar if not entirely mediocre squad bar like 3 players and consistently outperforming teams that have 10x their quality. Theyre still 1st for fuck sake. Pellegrini is not fodder and Van Gaal the same. Pellegrini coached madrid some years back and i believe the same for Van Gaal. Van Gaal did wonders with that Holland squad in the world cup. Pellegrini has won the league what, every other year since hes been at City.

At least attempt to conceal your fanboyism.

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