English Premier League Thread II - Page 52

Kalac#16 · 13-08-2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Ash

If RVP gets injured, they are truly fucked

This. He is literally the last player there you could consider world class. Rest are either too young (Walcott, Wilshere) or just not good enough.

Christian · 13-08-2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by acmilan4ever

Gervinho, what a player, hes been the best player out there so far.

Too bad Arsenal dont have players to slip him or RVP through, really missing a Cesc out there tonight.

Arshavin is trying his best but thats not his best quality and Rosicky is slowing down everything for them

Hoping for goals in the second half

RVP's been in good positions a couple of times, but he really didn't look sharp. Hoping for an Arsenal win

Btw, really liked Sessegnon for Sunderland earlier. The guys got excellent technique

necromancer · 13-08-2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by acmilan4ever

Gervinho, what a player, hes been the best player out there so far.

That's not saying much, to be honest. He has been decent - but they need far more than this to be in a serious title-hunt.

RvP will score. But Newcastle might also.

hdcantona · 13-08-2011, 19:37

Obertan on for Newcastle...

another United reject in the premiership

Ash · 13-08-2011, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Kalac#16

This. He is literally the last player there you could consider world class. Rest are either too young (Walcott, Wilshere) or just not good enough.

More than that, he is their only proper goalscorer. Rest of their options (Chamakh etc) are plain shit

acmilan4ever · 13-08-2011, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

you know how with certain teams (man utd, chelsea when on form, mourinho teams etc) when a team goes in 0-0 you just expect a goal to eventually come.

I feel opposite way with arsenal. The team lacks character until proven otherwise, IMO. I could be wrong but I think they will be in for some hard times this year with or without cesc/nasri.

Gervinho has been good though. Surprisingly good to me.

Nah, I watched him last year too, he will get better than this. He has the speed and dribbling ability to take on players with ease.

He will be one of the key players for them this season.

They will face hard times but it depends who they sign from here on. First mission is to get past Udinese and attract at least a few players. They look good in defense today but in the creative department they are lacking.

Players like RVP, Gervinho and Wilshere can carry this team forward but they will still be a cut below the top 3 imo. They will tussle with Pool for 4rth.

Kalac#16 · 13-08-2011, 19:45

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Originally Posted by acmilan4ever

Nah, I watched him last year too, he will get better than this. He has the speed and dribbling ability to take on players with ease.

He will be one of the key players for them this season.

They will face hard times but it depends who they sign from here on. First mission is to get past Udinese and attract at least a few players. They look good in defense today but in the creative department they are lacking.

Players like RVP, Gervinho and Wilshere can carry this team forward but they will still be a cut below the top 3 imo. They will tussle with Pool for 4rth.

They could end up finishing as low as 6th, quite easily.

hdcantona · 13-08-2011, 19:46

Obertan MOTM so far

Senatore_M84 · 13-08-2011, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Kalac#16

They could end up finishing as low as 6th, quite easily.

that's what im thinking even if cesc stays. He's a little overrated to be honest (still a class player) but honestly, he doesn't give a fuck, and it's obvious. That's what matters.

Just sell him and sign someone who is actually capable of leading

hdcantona · 13-08-2011, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

that's what im thinking even if cesc stays. He's a little overrated to be honest (still a class player) but honestly, he doesn't give a fuck, and it's obvious. That's what matters.

Just sell him and sign someone who is actually capable of leading

inb4kalac

Kalac#16 · 13-08-2011, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

Just sell him and sign someone who is actually capable of leading

They just need more wingers.

Edit: Thanks HD

Christian · 13-08-2011, 20:04

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Originally Posted by acmilan4ever

Gervinho, what a player, hes been the best player out there so far.

Too bad Arsenal dont have players to slip him or RVP through, really missing a Cesc out there tonight.

Arshavin is trying his best but thats not his best quality and Rosicky is slowing down everything for them

Hoping for goals in the second half

I think he's a bit frustrating tbh. He beats his man all the time, but his final ball is always poor

Christian · 13-08-2011, 20:10

ROFL

Joey Barton, haha

That's the biggest dick move I've ever seen. What a hypocrite

Senatore_M84 · 13-08-2011, 20:12

LOL JOEY BARTON!

God, if there is a hell, he's definitely going there

necromancer · 13-08-2011, 20:16

Joey Barton continuing to be a legend.

Ash · 13-08-2011, 20:33

I love Joey Barton

Can we sign him on a special contract? You know, for games against Merda?

p.s. - Gervinho did deserve to get sent off (even tho Barton did too)

acmilan4ever · 13-08-2011, 20:33

How Barton stayed on the pitch there was beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Christian

I think he's a bit frustrating tbh. He beats his man all the time, but his final ball is always poor

Yes, i've noticed that in this game.

In France, when he was playing for Lille, he used to get in behind his opponent with ease and would have more time. Here he didnt get that today and probably wont get that but its an area which he can improve and must if he is to be successful. He was unfortunate to get in that silly tussle but he will come good for them.

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Originally Posted by Kalac#16

They could end up finishing as low as 6th, quite easily.

Could happen, if Liverpool play well and a team like Spurs/AV/Everton play really well then anything is possible.

hdcantona · 13-08-2011, 20:34

Glad Barton wasn't sent off though since Song should have been sent off but wasn't. Balanced out in the end. Sort of.

USC · 13-08-2011, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Senatore_M84

BTW, USC will find this interesting but it's not surprising adam and downing were signed. Liverpool are owned by Boston Celtics/Red Sox owners. They are two franches known for being very statistically advanced. They have analytic departments, coming up with new ways to statistically analyze players. I know they've been looking into it with football both Adam and Downing, as unspectacular as they may be, create ALOT of chances.

Don't think they haven't started employing it with football too. Add a transfer guru like comolli, it's all about balance.

I hate the Red Sox more than any sporting franchise in the world. Actually, I hate the entire city of Boston and Theo Epstein is an enormous tool. I am a bigger baseball fan than football fan, so this hatred is quite deep.

I hope all of them just simultaneously explode; I now hate Liverpool because of John Henry.

But alas, they do use SABR and sabermetrics, which have been overlooked far too much in every sport.

Joey Barton is the biggest tool in the premiership. How he hasn't been absolutely destroyed yet is beyond me. I want to see City vs. Newcastle this year and Barton make a late tackle on Craig Bellamy and see what happens. I imagine Bellamy will take off his spike and ram it through Barton's jugular.

Senatore_M84 · 13-08-2011, 20:37

welp usc, i'm an oakland a's fan. Grew up it coliseum. Epstein is a tool. Wannabe billy beane. Give beane half his payroll and we win it all.

I assume you're a phils fan? I fucking hate the giants (and live in SF)

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Ash Swag Maestro Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia	I love Joey Barton Can we sign him on a special contract? You know, for games against Merda? p.s. - Gervinho did deserve to get sent off (even tho Barton did too)