Gli Azzurri - La Nazionale, Italy National Football Team - Page 208

nonsonoqui · 09-09-2019, 18:52

Italy will qualify for Euro2020 if they beat Greece next month.

Polotelli · 09-09-2019, 23:40

qualifying is easy, but this team is too raw to actually achieve something

but maybe it’s what they needed now

necromancer · 10-09-2019, 08:17

Which team isn't raw for 2020? Netherlands, Spain, Germany are all reinventing and kicking off new projects. France are the clear favourites, and everyone else has an outside chance.

I thought the Finland match was quite well played. Italy gave it away a little in the 2nd half, but the 1st half was very well done. I'm glad that Mancini opened up to the possibility of playing Sensi and Verratti together against certain opposition, because it would be a shame to bench either at this stage.

fray · 10-09-2019, 08:52

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Originally Posted by necromancer

I'm glad that Mancini opened up to the possibility of playing Sensi and Verratti together against certain opposition, because it would be a shame to bench either at this stage.

Benching Sensi is a good decision for Mancini and the Italian NT. Not necessarily that he is a bad player, but Verratti and Sensi are practically the same players, as they got the same charateristics. Jorginho, on the other hand, is unique. Absolutely fantastic midfielder, no one in the world can do what he does. I love seeing him in the regista role for Italy. Watching him makes me think that Mancini would rather have a midfield trio who is techincally gifted and would be able to dominate possesion + someone who can pop up with a goal, which they're currently lacking.

Anyway, if you start a midfield of Sensi - Jorginho - Verratti, there's no goals from the midfield nor an 'X factor player' in the final third. I think Jorginho could be the only one who can be considered somewhat of an 'X factor player', although he is far away from the final third ...so yes, Italy clearly lack that final third player.

If i were Mancini, i would go for a Verratti - Jorginho - Pellegrini midfield.

Bonaventura have the same charateristics as Pellegrini, so i wouldn't count that option out. Zaniolo as CM would be another option, but he does not look ready. Not even for the U21 side.

I would like to include Barella, but i think he's in the same boat as Sensi and Verratti. Barella may develop into something more of a 10 player, someone who attacks more, but i don't see it happening any time soon, especially not under someone like Conte.

necromancer · 10-09-2019, 10:02

Mancini's first choice midfield is Verratti-Jorginho-Barella. All 3 provide something different, and I think it's a great combination. They've already shown their balance together over the last year.

Sensi presents a good problem because he has broken through over the last 6-8 months, and was very good every time he got a chance in the Italy midfield (Finland first half was exceptional). So I'm happy to hear Mancini say that he would be willing to try Sensi and Verratti together (even though they are similar players) against certain opposition where their characteristics would work together. And in case one of the main 3 guys gets suspended or injured, Sensi will slot in seamlessly.

Pellegrini is a player I don't particularly like. Managers love such players because you can stick them in a hundred position and they'll put in a lot of hustle. He's the new Perrotta.

These 5 in any case will be the core midfielders for the Euro, unless we get someone breaking through in the next 8 months.

fray · 10-09-2019, 10:18

Castrovilli from Fiorentina could break through and get a place in Italy’s squad ahead of the Euro's. Who do you think?

Maybe Zaniolo if he has matured by that time, too.

necromancer · 10-09-2019, 11:11

Zaniolo should be part of the squad but more for the attacking 3 positions. Castrovilli has never been involved in the nazionale setup, will be quite some feat for him to break through.

necromancer · 07-10-2019, 14:34

Renaissance kit out. I'm absolutely going to buy this.

https://www.football-italia.net/1449...-new-green-kit

Soldier_of_god · 07-10-2019, 22:55

Some decent players coming through but I am not too confident in their abilities. None particularly have that match winning factor. Zaniolo can be that player but he is still raw.

joyrider · 12-10-2019, 20:02

Italy (4-3-3): Gianluigi Donnarumma; Danilo D’Ambrosio, Leonardo Bonucci, Francesco Acerbi, Leonardo Spinazzola; Nicolo Barella, Jorginho, Marco Verratti; Federico Chiesa, Ciro Immobile, Lorenzo Insigne.

at least one milan players is on the field

necromancer · 12-10-2019, 21:11

Jorginho penalties are fun to watch.

joyrider · 12-10-2019, 21:24

well this was unexpected

nonsonoqui · 12-10-2019, 22:45

Forza Azzurri!

necromancer · 13-10-2019, 07:00

Qualification done! Mancini has been impeccable. Bravo.

joyrider · 13-10-2019, 08:13

Most victories for the azzurri in a row

Ronin · 13-10-2019, 11:20

That kit is dope!

Italy have a pretty good and interesting squad, but I feel like they're missing a WC forward, who can get you out of trouble when the team is in a slum. Immobile and Belotti are not talented or consistent enough imho.

Pingu · 13-10-2019, 11:38

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Originally Posted by Ronin

That kit is dope!

Italy have a pretty good and interesting squad, but I feel like they're missing a WC forward, who can get you out of trouble when the team is in a slum. Immobile and Belotti are not talented or consistent enough imho.

Bring back Balotelli

vB9 · 14-11-2019, 20:25

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Leonardo Bonucci explains how Italy’s “first form of defence is attack”

Since when?

09-09-2019, 18:52	#4141
nonsonoqui Io non ho cugini Join Date: Mar 2014	Italy will qualify for Euro2020 if they beat Greece next month. Grazie per avermi fatto rossonero!

12-10-2019, 22:45	#4153
nonsonoqui Io non ho cugini Join Date: Mar 2014	Forza Azzurri! Grazie per avermi fatto rossonero!

13-10-2019, 11:20	#4156
Ronin Milansochist Join Date: Mar 2013 Fav. Players: Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Rui Costa, Albertini, Serginho, Seedorf, Redondo, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho	That kit is dope! Italy have a pretty good and interesting squad, but I feel like they're missing a WC forward, who can get you out of trouble when the team is in a slum. Immobile and Belotti are not talented or consistent enough imho. We practice unpopular culture, that is honour, courage and commitment!

09-09-2019, 23:40	#4142
Polotelli AC Milan Icon Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: bruxelles	qualifying is easy, but this team is too raw to actually achieve something but maybe it’s what they needed now

10-09-2019, 08:17	#4143
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Which team isn't raw for 2020? Netherlands, Spain, Germany are all reinventing and kicking off new projects. France are the clear favourites, and everyone else has an outside chance. I thought the Finland match was quite well played. Italy gave it away a little in the 2nd half, but the 1st half was very well done. I'm glad that Mancini opened up to the possibility of playing Sensi and Verratti together against certain opposition, because it would be a shame to bench either at this stage.

10-09-2019, 10:02	#4145
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Mancini's first choice midfield is Verratti-Jorginho-Barella. All 3 provide something different, and I think it's a great combination. They've already shown their balance together over the last year. Sensi presents a good problem because he has broken through over the last 6-8 months, and was very good every time he got a chance in the Italy midfield (Finland first half was exceptional). So I'm happy to hear Mancini say that he would be willing to try Sensi and Verratti together (even though they are similar players) against certain opposition where their characteristics would work together. And in case one of the main 3 guys gets suspended or injured, Sensi will slot in seamlessly. Pellegrini is a player I don't particularly like. Managers love such players because you can stick them in a hundred position and they'll put in a lot of hustle. He's the new Perrotta. These 5 in any case will be the core midfielders for the Euro, unless we get someone breaking through in the next 8 months.

10-09-2019, 10:18	#4146
fray Casciavit Join Date: May 2017	Castrovilli from Fiorentina could break through and get a place in Italy’s squad ahead of the Euro's. Who do you think? Maybe Zaniolo if he has matured by that time, too.

10-09-2019, 11:11	#4147
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Zaniolo should be part of the squad but more for the attacking 3 positions. Castrovilli has never been involved in the nazionale setup, will be quite some feat for him to break through.

07-10-2019, 14:34	#4148
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Renaissance kit out. I'm absolutely going to buy this. https://www.football-italia.net/1449...-new-green-kit

07-10-2019, 22:55	#4149
Soldier_of_god AC Milan Icon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: brisbane Fav. Players: cr7, Kaka, sheva, zidane, pastore , zlatan ibra,T.silva, jovetic, Arjen robben, drogba, suarez	Some decent players coming through but I am not too confident in their abilities. None particularly have that match winning factor. Zaniolo can be that player but he is still raw.

12-10-2019, 20:02	#4150
joyrider Il Moderati Join Date: Feb 2004	Italy (4-3-3): Gianluigi Donnarumma; Danilo D’Ambrosio, Leonardo Bonucci, Francesco Acerbi, Leonardo Spinazzola; Nicolo Barella, Jorginho, Marco Verratti; Federico Chiesa, Ciro Immobile, Lorenzo Insigne. at least one milan players is on the field

12-10-2019, 21:11	#4151
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Jorginho penalties are fun to watch.

12-10-2019, 21:24	#4152
joyrider Il Moderati Join Date: Feb 2004	well this was unexpected

13-10-2019, 07:00	#4154
necromancer Lo Stile di Pioli Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Johannesburg Fav. Players: Nesta, Maldini, Buffon, RinoPirloClarence, Sheva, Totti, Ibra, Pippo, Giacomo, Carlo, Il Dottore	Qualification done! Mancini has been impeccable. Bravo.

13-10-2019, 08:13	#4155
joyrider Il Moderati Join Date: Feb 2004	Most victories for the azzurri in a row