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Old 02-02-2014, 20:49   #4581
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He has to be at RB and De Siglico at LB, Urby can not defend and has already cost us too many points this season.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:50   #4582
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He has to be at RB and De Siglico at LB, Urby can not defend and has already cost us too many points this season.


If things aren't looking good long term with Abate, we need to sign a much more capable left back. Defensively, Urby offers very little.

De Sciglio's versatility needs to be embraced. If Abate and Urby are available, stick De Sciglio on the left. He might feel better on the right but he is the best left back we have and has all the time in the world to make that RB spot his.


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Old 03-02-2014, 05:48   #4583
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Urby is bench player...so its only abate and de scig!


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Old 03-02-2014, 06:14   #4584
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Formation 352 and play him on cb is only hope for him. Is useless on wings... Maybe abate-rami - zapata will be good combo. And mexes....we need central defenders...
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:01   #4585
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He will open up so much space, and really widen our play, which is something we sorely lack.

with Abate running off KAKA/honda, it means the ball being smashed into the box for Balo/kaka/honda/robinho/pazzini to pounce on.

His crossing might not be great, but putting the ball in there and stretching the other team is something he can do well.

Plus, no bitch is going to run past him. Love watching others try and go by him, fools


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Old 03-02-2014, 16:26   #4586
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I don't get why he's not playing .DES win serie a lb of the year so it's clear that though not his favoured position he can play there ...and BE THE BEST in serie A at it .

meanwhile urby and abate offer the same in terms of speed and abate has the advantage on defensive awareness.i was concerned that after seedorf was in the club for 5 mins he was asking for urby to re signed .and now if I'm honest I will say I'm concerned about contradictory statements about playing players in their natural position cause urby is by no means a natural LB and again though des isn't either HE WAS VOTED THE BEST last season and he's 19 FFS so maybe it is his best position .also you have Honda out of position and also bonera ...surely his is next to the coach machine in the foyer.

is seedorf playing favourites ...well I don't know about that but it's clear he's being far too rigid in his approach .
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Old 03-02-2014, 17:29   #4587
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CB? did anyone say we should play him as CB? he is RB who cant attack thats it, should we release him and search for a LB? I am all for releasing, selling assets which are overvalued and excessive but procurement of adequate replacements worries me.

I wish galliani took more risks. I would like to get hands on a young talented Lb so that we can lock up our fullback positions for years and focus on the CBs
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Old 03-02-2014, 17:32   #4588
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Formation 352 and play him on cb is only hope for him. Is useless on wings... Maybe abate-rami - zapata will be good combo. And mexes....we need central defenders...
playing with the 3 at the back is only possible when you have quality cbs... that is basically what we need most, so its a suicidal idea.
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Old 03-02-2014, 18:30   #4589
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I don't get why he's not playing .DES win serie a lb of the year so it's clear that though not his favoured position he can play there ...and BE THE BEST in serie A at it .

meanwhile urby and abate offer the same in terms of speed and abate has the advantage on defensive awareness.i was concerned that after seedorf was in the club for 5 mins he was asking for urby to re signed .and now if I'm honest I will say I'm concerned about contradictory statements about playing players in their natural position cause urby is by no means a natural LB and again though des isn't either HE WAS VOTED THE BEST last season and he's 19 FFS so maybe it is his best position .also you have Honda out of position and also bonera ...surely his is next to the coach machine in the foyer.

is seedorf playing favourites ...well I don't know about that but it's clear he's being far too rigid in his approach .
Because Abate is better in defence then Emanuelson, i'm not talking for attack..
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Old 04-02-2014, 15:59   #4590
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the fact is that abate has value so I see the reasoning behind selling him is

a- you honestly believe he cannot add quality to the team
b- if you are bringing in someone better.

the truth is though that DES is better than urby at lb and abate is better than urby at fullback full stop.why seedorf seems so happy with urby and not so with abate is very worrying .unlike abate I can't see what urby has offered to deem him the better player and enough with the des shit about having to play rb when he won an award for best lb in the league at what 19. we can't say if he is our best rb option cause he hasn't really proved that yet but he has at lb .I'd much rather see abate and des than urby and des and seedorf to a degree needs to get his head out of his ass.

lets be fair and say seedorf so far has made some bizarre choices in regards to preference and positions of players .
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:06   #4591
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and I'm sick of people saying that the natural and best position for des is rb .he is 19 and hasn't played even 2 full seasons so how have we already determined he is better at rb.did he win an award for it?....is he dominating teams at rb currently ...no.the simple fact is we say it's his best position because he is right footed and that's it .he barely beats and man down the right side so I have no issues with him cutting in on his right from the left side .

fact remains still that he won an award at lb so at this stage it's his preferred position until proven otherwise and at 19 we still don't know what further potential he has in both roles.
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:09   #4592
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that award means shit, I am fine with anything. letting go of abate because only thing he can do is defend and play an aggressive lb or a new signing somewhere down the line.
Or lock abate and descilgio for couple of years if abate signs for a decent contract

And descilgio is a far batter Rb than a LB
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:29   #4593
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that award means shit, I am fine with anything. letting go of abate because only thing he can do is defend and play an aggressive lb or a new signing somewhere down the line.
Or lock abate and descilgio for couple of years if abate signs for a decent contract

And descilgio is a far batter Rb than a LB
ok valid points .but why again is des a better lb than rb ?...last season the majority of his game time was at lb and everyone was jizzing on how good he was playing . this year he has played the majority at rb though he missed a lot of games and I can't say he's been setting the world a light despite the fact that I think he is a very good player.

maybe he is more comfortable at rb but that doesn't mean he's played better there .my argument is that for this season seeing as abate is still in the squad and ready to go I would prefer he and des to play (with des at lb ) than des and urby .

what we do next year remains to be seen .the club is looking at extending urby's deal and rumours have abate out .will a better player come in ...maybe but do we currently have the better player on the bench ..yes

and just so we are clear I'm not having a go at des and nor do I think abate is a world beater but I have very little faith a better player is coming in .
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:44   #4594
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Whichever is economical, you know whats going to happen? we release abate for a young lb, he will flop and descilgio will get injured our rotten luck and we will be arguing about how wonderful abate was etc,

sometime having most of your team healthy is the biggest transfer of the season , milan cant catch a break for sometime
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:49   #4595
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Letting Abate leave would be a mistake.


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Old 04-02-2014, 16:50   #4596
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Whichever is economical, you know whats going to happen? we release abate for a young lb, he will flop and descilgio will get injured our rotten luck and we will be arguing about how wonderful abate was etc,

sometime having most of your team healthy is the biggest transfer of the season , milan cant catch a break for sometime
absolutely agree .

the only real argument for selling abate is that he has value .the truth is having him in the team is not a bad thing at all and I would prefer to move on urby or constant rather than abate but they have no value .
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Old 04-02-2014, 16:53   #4597
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meh his value is overrated it neither breaks the team nor makes it. I don want to hear but so and so should go before abate, abate is a solid player he might go to a solid team like jube and solidify their defense. if we are willing to spend some money on an attacking lb i say dont renew abate but we are a club which is loyal to homegrown players he has some value blah blah anyway its fine
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Old 04-02-2014, 17:12   #4598
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Abate has to start for us.

Don't want him to go.


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Old 04-02-2014, 17:30   #4599
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If this continues for a few more days, I'll be convinced that Abate's agent is running a PR campaign through some of you.

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and I'm sick of people saying that the natural and best position for des is rb .he is 19 and hasn't played even 2 full seasons so how have we already determined he is better at rb.did he win an award for it?....
Ok, forget the television judgement. Assuming you've played/still play football, have you known which your stronger side was?


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Old 04-02-2014, 17:34   #4600
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