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Old 15-05-2018, 16:30   #861
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Old 15-05-2018, 16:49   #862
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Old 15-05-2018, 16:58   #863
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Bonucci has been great since Gattuso arrived. How players played when Montella was hear is irrelevant to me, as Gattuso will be our coach next season. Biliga and Bonnuci have both been great under Gattuso
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Old 15-05-2018, 17:16   #864
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Cutrone, Calhanoglu, Suso and even Kessie in the beginning

have all been flops for many games
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Old 15-05-2018, 18:30   #865
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and yet without Romagnoli he hasn't proved himself to be the 40 million euro CB he was supposed to be.
of course he played with training cones such as Zapata and Musa, but a player at his level should elevate the players around him.
after all, thats why he was promoted as captain once he was signed
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:38   #866
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He said, "This Nazionale has talent coming through and we can only get stronger. France have enthusiasm and youth, but also a lot of experience with players at top clubs challenging for major honours. I think they are one of the favourites for the World Cup."
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Old 02-06-2018, 21:13   #867
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Kalinic is a fucking plumber, not a football flop. Take him off the list.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:32   #868
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and yet without Romagnoli he hasn't proved himself to be the 40 million euro CB he was supposed to be.
of course he played with training cones such as Zapata and Musa, but a player at his level should elevate the players around him.
after all, thats why he was promoted as captain once he was signed
van dijk went for 75m so 40m kinda means we got a tier B defender and for what bonucci has done this season, it's a pretty good deal.

Thing with Bonucci is we paid 40m expecting an 80m defender, but we got bamboozled and got someone actually worth just the 40m.


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Old 03-06-2018, 09:39   #869
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It's very reductive to give a player value just based on their cost.

I remember people claiming Ibra was shit because we 'only' paid €24m...

Because he'd be much better if he'd have cost €40m, much better for the club too to spend more money.


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Old 03-06-2018, 11:01   #870
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van dijk went for 75m so 40m kinda means we got a tier B defender and for what bonucci has done this season, it's a pretty good deal.

Thing with Bonucci is we paid 40m expecting an 80m defender, but we got bamboozled and got someone actually worth just the 40m.
Pool, Manchester City and EPL clubs are a prime example of inflation tho..
Koulibaly, Umtiti, and even Manolas are players who were signed for cheap and upgraded their shoddy defence. has Bonucci done so? not sure.
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Old 03-06-2018, 13:04   #871
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Cutrone, Calhanoglu, Suso and even Kessie in the beginning

have all been flops for many games

Hard to call Cutrone a flop in the beginning since there were no expectations for him

Biglia and Bonucci started slow under Montella, but then picked it up under Rino. also dont see why lep gets no credit for romagnoli becoming rock solid? hes clearly had an impact on alessio and will continue helping him develop, we really needed a leader of his status at the back

Suso was ayt under Montella but then started vanishing as season went on, Hakan seemed like a complete mistake of a signing until Rino stepped in, that list is BS. all in all considering the number of games only kessie has been consistently good throughout most of the season


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Old 03-06-2018, 16:47   #872
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It's very reductive to give a player value just based on their cost.

I remember people claiming Ibra was shit because we 'only' paid €24m...

Because he'd be much better if he'd have cost €40m, much better for the club too to spend more money.
Players are usually overvalued but rarely undervalued.

40m seemed like a steal for Bonucci because we had assumed he was undervalued and that he's worth a lot more (rightly so, based on his performances with Juve and Azzurri). Now that the season is done, he really didn't add much to our defense except a decent partnership with Romagnoli from Jan-Mar of 2018 and that's it. We ended up paying for the name and for having a credible captain than actual solid defensive performances.


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Old 03-06-2018, 16:58   #873
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His performance is around 20mil defender.


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Old 30-06-2018, 06:26   #874
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Old 30-06-2018, 11:37   #875
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His performance is around 20mil defender.

His performances under gattuso are definitely not around 20... dafaq


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Old 30-06-2018, 12:44   #876
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his performances under gattuso are definitely not around 20... Dafaq
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Old 30-06-2018, 13:17   #877
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Old 30-06-2018, 21:52   #878
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Old 30-06-2018, 22:18   #879
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How much was he worth at juventus then. He is a shadow of his former self.


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Old 30-06-2018, 22:31   #880
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How much was he worth at juventus then. He is a shadow of his former self.

How is he a shadow of his former self? He performed badly in the first few months but so did the whole team. Under gattuso he formed a great partnership with romagnoli and we kept clean sheets in many consecutive matches.

The only reason we got him for 40m was because he wanted to stay in italy, else juve would have easily sold him for 60m+ to an epl team.


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