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Old 06-06-2018, 17:51   #25941
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If Bonaventura unfortunately stays then he would keep Ceballos benched. Are we talking dry loan or are Real getting rid. Unfortunately Ceballos is the wrong profile for us at the moment.

Plays a bit like 'Modric' that was
"Clearly, Madrid see Ceballos as a long-term replacement for 31 year old Luka Modric...also because of the similarities in his game to that of Modric. Neither player scores or assists much, but their ability to link the play and break opponents’ shape with clever passing and ball retention are nonetheless crucial to their teams. He’s unlikely to ever become a goalscoring midfielder or classic playmaker but his output is similar to Modric in the sense that he retains the ball well and moves the opposition around with clever passing and movement."


"One of Ceballos’ great qualities. It is the main reason for Zidane’s interest in the player, who he sees as a long-term replacement for Luka Modric. In fact, Ceballos said himself in an interview with AS in March 2017 that his style “is similar to that of Modric”."

Found those quotes within seconds, so it's not only myself who sees him being able to play that role. I don't think he has the vision of Modric yet but I do think he's more dynamic going forward. Their effect on the game is similar though.
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Old 06-06-2018, 17:54   #25942
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Ceballos, Depay, and a #9 would be a great mercato
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Old 06-06-2018, 18:00   #25943
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"Clearly, Madrid see Ceballos as a long-term replacement for 31 year old Luka Modric...also because of the similarities in his game to that of Modric. Neither player scores or assists much, but their ability to link the play and break opponents’ shape with clever passing and ball retention are nonetheless crucial to their teams. He’s unlikely to ever become a goalscoring midfielder or classic playmaker but his output is similar to Modric in the sense that he retains the ball well and moves the opposition around with clever passing and movement."


"One of Ceballos’ great qualities. It is the main reason for Zidane’s interest in the player, who he sees as a long-term replacement for Luka Modric. In fact, Ceballos said himself in an interview with AS in March 2017 that his style “is similar to that of Modric”."

Found those quotes within seconds, so it's not only myself who sees him being able to play that role. I don't think he has the vision of Modric yet but I do think he's more dynamic going forward. Their effect on the game is similar though.
That clearly worked out then when the opinion one season later would a total contrast. Kovacic > Ceballos and he can't even get much game time 3 years in.

Young player needs regular game time to develop. If Jack stays, can't see Ceballos getting many starts.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:02   #25944
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I think this would be assuming Suso leaves? Still leaves us light in the winger department...I know Callejon is older but if he came at a low price, he adds a lot of speed, clever runs and is a good decision maker. I think he would add some dyanism lacking with Suso.
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That clearly worked out then when the opinion one season later would a total contrast. Kovacic > Ceballos and he can't even get much game time 3 years in.

Young player needs regular game time to develop. If Jack stays, can't see Ceballos getting many starts.
I'm not disagreeing, my opinion was formed by his years with Betis, I admitted to not seeing him much/at all with Madrid.

Do you rate Jack? I would rather give those minutes to a player like Ceballos.
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I think this would be assuming Suso leaves? Still leaves us light in the winger department...I know Callejon is older but if he came at a low price, he adds a lot of speed, clever runs and is a good decision maker. I think he would add some dyanism lacking with Suso.
I hope he leaves and I agree Callejon would be a cheap depth option

iirc Ceballos has played out wide in the past
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I'm not disagreeing, my opinion was formed by his years with Betis, I admitted to not seeing him much/at all with Madrid.

Do you rate Jack? I would rather give those minutes to a player like Ceballos.
No, I've been complaining about average Jack for about 3 seasons. I want us to sign a quality LCM but unfortunately Ceballos is not the right player at this time.

I don't share Mirabelli's taste in players either tbf


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:11   #25948
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Looks like Cristante is a 2 year loan at 5m followed by an obligation to buy at 25m.
This is exactly how we should be structuring our deals this summer given our lack of funds. Mirabelli take note.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:12   #25949
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I think this would be assuming Suso leaves? Still leaves us light in the winger department...I know Callejon is older but if he came at a low price, he adds a lot of speed, clever runs and is a good decision maker. I think he would add some dyanism lacking with Suso.
Suso leaves then I would guess Callejon is his replacement.
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Can Dani play as a LCM? I've always seen him as more of a Spanish-style regista.
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Old 06-06-2018, 18:13   #25951
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I think this would be assuming Suso leaves? Still leaves us light in the winger department...I know Callejon is older but if he came at a low price, he adds a lot of speed, clever runs and is a good decision maker. I think he would add some dyanism lacking with Suso.
We will play 4312 if Suso leaves. I don't see why we would play with wingers if he's not there.
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No, I've been complaining about average Jack for about 3 seasons. I want us to sign a quality LCM but unfortunately Ceballos is not the right player at this time.

I don't share Mirabelli's taste in players either tbf
Ceballos rumours sound like BS. He doesn't fit the 'experienced' criteria Gattuso was talking about and rarely scores. Given our lack of goals this season, it's highly unlikely we bench Bonaventura for a kid who scored just 2 goals last season for Real Madrid. He's also too inexperienced to take Biglia's role especially in a brand new league.


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If Suso leaves that we'll need a replacement for him as well. Borini is our only RW if Suso leaves ffs.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:20   #25954
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Suso leaves then I would guess Callejon is his replacement.
Callejon would be an excellent replacement for Suso given his release clause is just 20m. His Serie A stats are incredible: 57 goals/51 assists in 188 games. He also fits the experienced criteria Mirabelli is looking for.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:22   #25955
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Ceballos rumours sound like BS. He doesn't fit the 'experienced' criteria Gattuso was talking about and rarely scores. Given our lack of goals this season, it's highly unlikely we bench Bonaventura for a kid who scored just 2 goals last season for Real Madrid. He's also too inexperienced to take Biglia's role especially in a brand new league.
Exactly, hopefully he's going to Milan on vacation. A player with experience or at the very least.. a player coming off a good season that's capable of benching Jack.

Mirabelli gambled last season, we can't be rolling that same dice again.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:22   #25956
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Saint-Maximin if Suso leaves.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:25   #25957
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Someone, a mod I believe, said a few pages back that we are not desperate for pace because we will only be participating in Italy last year. I found this to be an odd opinion given the fact that Milan's lack of pace showed very clearly multiple times in Italy last season. The most glaring example was against Juventus in Turin when they were open multiple times to counter attacks and Suso could not even outpace their defenders, who are all old and slow. We had multiple counters snuffed out because Suso lacked the pace to get by his man.

Further, Milan's ultimate objective is to compete on the continent because that is what Milan does, and we will need pace and counter attacking ability to do so. Our best teams this century could roast any team alive on the counter, and that's what we should aspire to as it is in our "DNA."
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I think we'll swap Zaza for Bacca permanently and Falcao for Silva temporarily. We'll probably sign Depay and get Callejon to replace Suso if he's sold.

CF: Falcao/Zaza/Cutrone
Wings: Depay/Callejon with Hakan/Conti as backups

That's a significant upgrade for a net spend of just 20m. Obviously I'd prefer to sign a proven goalscorer like Cavani/Immobile if we've got the money.


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Callejon would be an excellent replacement for Suso given his release clause is just 20m. His Serie A stats are incredible: 57 goals/51 assists in 188 games. He also fits the experienced criteria Mirabelli is looking for.
Immobile

Depay Hakan Callejon


That might be the best we can hope for. Potentially 60+ goals in that attack. Jack and Suso would be surplus though.


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Old 06-06-2018, 18:28   #25960
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Serious question - Why is everyone suddenly against having Morata at Milan? Last season we were after him or Auba, and tbh it seemed like it was a pretty split opinion back then. Most of our fans were licking their lips at the thought of having either of them.

Say what you want about it being a gamble, but there aren't many strikers who fit the bill (that are also realistic options) who won't cost a similar amount of money. Immobile is an easy pick. Prolific and knows the league, but we all know Lotito is a bitch to deal with and you can bet your arse he'll get more for what he's worth.

Morata has shown that he is a smart player and very capable when it matters most. Started off strongly at Chelsea and unfortunately faded (he admitted that the English culture/criticism was a bit rough around the edges), but this is also a club that has notoriously had failed strikers since Drogba. He might not be my first pick but he's certainly up there.

I swear some people think this is Career Mode and we can just take players off a charity lineup. Nobody in the world could take their pick barring Real, Barca and Bayern. United had multiple failed attempts at Lewandowski and the like and ended up bringing in Lukaku for a whopping 75m because they had to statistically bring in a 'proven' striker, and even that didn't pay dividends.

Star strikers that are actually on the market are few and far between, so signing a new CF is always going to be a gamble. This is the objective of the club, and the fans share the same sentiment. It's either that, or gambling on Cutrone. Tbh, the latter option still doesn't sound too bad.
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