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The Rumour Commode XXX: Return of the King
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I didn't really pay attention to him when we played them, but I remember several commoders being very keen.
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I like hime a lot.
Bologna bought him for 12 or 15mil.
Unless Bolagna need money urgently or we do some Masara magic, he will be expensive.
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When I was looking into the team before we played them, I noticed the first thing that came up was United supposed interest in this guy. United is thrown around a lot and could totally be fake, but the rumors were there before he scored his goal at San Siro.
Speaking on Hauge I am pretty excited about him. Of course a player from this league is a big risk, but he seems to have everything he needs. Low competition but he seems to have a decent eye for finding space and linking up with others. He doesn?t just sprint past players every game(he can), he knows how to do lay offs and run off the striker which will help him adjust here. I say throw him on the right in training and see how it goes. Players who rely on 1v1 dribbling and shooting struggle to play on the opposite wing, but as I said it looks like he knows how to pass and move. With Leao and Rebic it will be hard to play at LW so he?ll have to adapt anyway.
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Yes, they bought an undervalued asset and will flip it for a profit.
We don't disagree there. I disagree that they see Milan's global branding as the core driver of their current or future valuations.
What they are seeing is a club worth 600-700 million which might become a billion + if they successfully manage to build a stadium with inter. And then they can recover their investment and leave.
If they saw Milan as a cash cow then they would have plans to hold on to it for longer.
FFP is an accounting scam. Clubs just inflate player transfer prices and get over that hurdle.
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im sure milan is very interested
im sure milan is very interested
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He was really impressive against us. For a 21 yo showed a lot of defensive technique and skill. Immediately thought why is he playing for bologna we should get him. Also scored a decent goal on us last season.
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Time to permabench Calabria 
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Exactly. And since Rap is the nr1 genre in the world now it just about time before we see our Milan jersey in a music video from a popular rocNation artist like Rihanna, megan thee stallion, lil uzi or even the carters themselves.
I think they had this in mind when they were designing our current unique home jersey.
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We were debating Milan brands. Juve was more popular than Milan.
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Exactly. Milan is a brand that is huge, and has been run like shit, and that was the problem with B&G in the 2000's, they didn't do the marketing work that was necessary to take advantage of the strength of the brand.
Just listen to our marketing professionals talk about what they took over:
?It is probably too much to call it Stone Age but [AC Milan?s] commercial team was definitely 10 years behind the Premier League and probably two, three years behind the top clubs in Italy,? says Casper Stylsvig, the club?s new chief revenue officer, and a former global sponsorship director at Manchester United.
They've just started to engage in social media with earnestness, player memes (that bring awareness of players and personalities, which drive attention, which bring in sponsorship money) can only emerge when you have players who perform. If we weren't winning, Kessie being called Presidente isn't funny. If Hakan and Kessie sucked, the fusion dance shit wouldn't be funny. Winning cures everything.
And yes, I was talking about the past--but we're not talking about Grande Torino. We're not talking about some 80's and 90's nostalgia, like, people know Milan.
Theo is a kid, and he's talking about Maldini being his idol and the best to ever play his position. Why do we talk about Milan, as a brand, being this old time mythology that no one knows about.
The financial potential of Serie A is massive. That's why Commisso is buying Fiorentina, and why he wanted to buy Milan. It's why Friedkins bought Roma, again, because they probably couldn't buy Milan.
You guys keep talking about what Milan's revenues or social media numbers are, right now, but the potential is massive for Milan. That power of the brand is massive, and again, winning cures all. If Milan starts appearing in the CL, then you're going to have announcers talk about "Milan's history." If we start winning big games in the CL, people will talk about the mythology of Milan, Milan DNA, all that crap, but it just builds a narrative. Sports is pushed by narrative, by story-lines, otherwise they're just fucking sports games.
Why does women's tennis have popularity? Because there are great stories there. You have great rivalries. The Williams sisters brought in great interest, racial undertones, and so many other factors.
The NBA was literally dogshit, people didn't watch the games lives, and then Magic Johnson and Larry Bird came in and they created a story for the league. They literally saved the NBA, and brought it up in America, before Michael Jordan made it explode.
Senna versus Prost? Their rivalry was great.
What does Milan offer TV audiences? A narrative. History. Great players. So if Theo becomes the next great LB, Maldini being the man who brought him in, expect stupid pre-game shows on that. Leao becomes the next Mane or Son? He has the personality to catch interest, they'll start comparing him to Ibra. And it goes on and on.
Milan is a massive brand, and that is built on winning. Milan is about winning, about European success, which Berlusconi realized was far more important than Scudetti, because he knew he had to reach for larger success.
God, I can't believe I have to explain this basic-as-fuck reality about sports as a business.
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Time to permabench Calabria
Whaaat?
He has been one of the better players.
Tomyashu would plqy CB if he comes here.
With Conti staying it's more an opportunity for the next summer
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Because of Theo we need a defensive RB that can comfortably play as a CB in a 3 man defense. That's why Maldini is targeting Milenkovic, Mukiele and Thomiyasu.
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I just remember the golazo - couldnt tell how good his defending was our attacking output overall.
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Yes, Tomiyasu is better as CB, he played RB because Bologna didn't have better options last season, but he can cover it in urgent situations. Didn't know that he is only 21 years old, I thought he is 26 or something like that. I think he would be cheap, reliable option.
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Conti is always injured + expiring after this season.
Calabria has been surprisingly good to start the year.
I'd imagine Pioli will have to give Kalulu some playing time at RB to rest Davide.
Buying a CB/RB hybrid player would be perfect for our needs.
Tomiyasu and Milenkovic are Serie A proven unlike Fofana.
Fofana might have higher ceiling though. I'd be happy with either of those options.
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Please for the love of God stop, you are completely clueless.
There are less people watching NBA in the last decade than in 1974, well before Bird.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Thats why I wrote ?unless they sign another star player?
Juve currently aren?t miles ahead of us like under conte and allegri. They will rely on their younger players 1-2 seasons from now so we can definitely catch up on them (thats if everything goes smooth at milan and our young players develop they way we are expecting them to?
? The highest marketable player after cristiano is Neymar. He is 28 so we can sign him when he is around 32
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Good post. These people who think that Milan brand is less valued compared to other less clubs. Just think again..
Atalanta kept going jnto CL for years now. Yet nobody talked about their brand. Agnelli even thought that they shouldn't be in CL. Check his comment on Europe Super League.
Give me a break... these forum posters are really traumatized. They need Zlatan's mentality lessons
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Yeah -if we gave up only one of those type of goals like they did yesterday, this forum would be mauling Gabbia/Kjaer
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The term is not over, man. He is playing on a high level and he comes from the primavera.
all positive thing to keep faith in his development.
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We are not talking about any quality player. It has to be someone with social media presence.
? of course its good numbers when we have literally won 1 supercup in that period of time. We have by far been the worst ?top team? and most mismanaged.
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Actually, it's because smart teams have begun to stop with the mega-purchases, they don't bring the same value. This is actually the whole entire idea behind Dortmund, behind Ralf Rangnick, and other teams that function this way.
The relative play increase you get relative to the amount you invest in a particular player is usually not the same.
So the new thinking is to use a different strategy. It's essentially trying to find undervalued assets. Which is what Liverpool has done. You off-load Coutinho for 150m for Salah at 45m and you get equal (and with Salah) you get even greater performance.
They have invested, and they are continuing to do so, we're in a Covid market, everyone is withholding, so I dunno what you're talking about.
Um, they lent money to a guy who couldn't pay it back.
Loooooooooooooooooooooool. Yeah, you're right, I'm so stupid.
Oh, wait. It seems that Elliott knew this, and that they had actually setup various organizations to take over Milan because they knew of the risk involved with the guy who couldn't pay shit back, pushing him to make the corporation in Luxembourg, so that they could easily take over the club, because in Italy, the laws take years.
Hahahahahaha, looooool, Elliott are so stupid, hahahahahahaha, omg, lolz.
You don't make money from sports teams in revenue. You just don't.
The value of a sports team is in the value of it as an object to sell. Like a house. You don't make money in real estate from the rent from a property--I mean, you can, just like in sports teams, but that's not where the money is--the actual money in sports teams is when you sell it.
Sports teams have increased in value because they are probably the sole source of highly-viewed live television left in the world. It is how channels advertise their shows, using the captive audiences of sports, who tend to watch commercials, and don't watch delayed (recorded) games.
But it's not in revenue. NFL teams make a lot of revenues (though less than you'd think), but they make relatively little profit, the value of the sports team is in their brand.
Take the Houston Rockets, who make around $348 million dollars in revenue, but are worth around $2.47 billion.
Leslie Alexander bought the Rockets for $85 million in 1993, then sold them in 2017 for $2.2 billion. That's how you make money with sports teams, not from yearly revenue. You can take $2.2 billion and make more than you would in revenue owning a sports team by just investing that 2.2b in vanilla funds. Because that's how money is made with sports team.
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Yes. Which is why the global brand took such a dive.
But hey, I saw two guys at an airport wearing AC Milan jersey so.....
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