Giacomo Bonaventura Thread

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That's because our forwards continue to lack imagination. We need one change there, either in Suso's position or in Bacca's with one top level player who is clever enough to think different when he gets the ball. First priority signing for me is that.
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This. Bona and Suso need to be closer to each other. We see Bona drift a to Right side many times, because he needs someone to combine with, which they manage to do together.
This is why I'd like to see 4-2-3-1 with Suso behind the striker and maybe Niang or a smarter winger on the right... or maybe 4-4-2 with Bona-Pasalic-Kucka-Suso. I love Loca, but he's yet too raw. His focus now is not to screw up, but we need someone who can take more initiative.
 
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necromancer said:
That's because our forwards continue to lack imagination. We need one change there, either in Suso's position or in Bacca's with one top level player who is clever enough to think different when he gets the ball. First priority signing for me is that.
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We need a Pato level winger (old Pato, with Leonardo), one who can beat the opponent players, has speed, talent, can score. We don't need Bonaventura and Suso type of wingers who are 50% wingers 50% midfielders.
 
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necromancer said:
That's because our forwards continue to lack imagination. We need one change there, either in Suso's position or in Bacca's with one top level player who is clever enough to think different when he gets the ball. First priority signing for me is that.
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Our defence is more worrying then that, our forwards do a fine enough job as it is. We got run over yesterday numerous time by fucking Pescara.

As for Jack, he is a great player to have in your squad, he reminds me of Ambrosini, great utility player.
 
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VultureSheva said:
We need a Pato level winger (old Pato, with Leonardo), one who can beat the opponent players, has speed, talent, can score. We don't need Bonaventura and Suso type of wingers who are 50% wingers 50% midfielders.
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Suso and Bonaventura are both better than Pato (the winger).
 
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Not this Pato, the old Pato, the one who was a WC talent, he was used as a winger in Leonardo's 4-2-3-1. I don't want him now, I said a player like he was.
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Pato was terrible on the right wing, playing him out of position was one of Leonardo's biggest mistakes.

Pato did produce some goals and assists due to moments of individual brilliance, but was mostly left isolated and contributed very little to the team's build up play.
 
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Ronin said:
or maybe 4-4-2 with Bona-Pasalic-Kucka-Suso. I love Loca, but he's yet too raw. His focus now is not to screw up, but we need someone who can take more initiative.
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Suggesting Pasalic to start alongside Kucka ruins whatever point you were trying to make.

That Chelsea kid is in no shape or form ready to start, and we shouldn't waste any time helping a raw, out-of-form kid who we don't even have a buyout option on. That's for cuckold clubs.
 
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Ronin said:
This. Bona and Suso need to be closer to each other. We see Bona drift a to Right side many times, because he needs someone to combine with, which they manage to do together.
This is why I'd like to see 4-2-3-1 with Suso behind the striker and maybe Niang or a smarter winger on the right... or maybe 4-4-2 with Bona-Pasalic-Kucka-Suso. I love Loca, but he's yet too raw. His focus now is not to screw up, but we need someone who can take more initiative.
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I dont agree with the second bit at all. Loca has done quite well and has looked far readier than either Pasalic or Sosa. Pasalic looks worse than a primavera midfielder to be honest.

As for the first part, yes a Suso replacement is first preference.

I like the shape pf the midfield now after Locatelli came in, which allows Bona to be more mobile vertically. Problem remains the limitations of Bacca and Suso.

There's zero benefit in involving Bacca in any build-up. He just can't pass and he doesn't even have the technique to hold the ball for a little while. He's a deadly poacher and if we decide to keep him our striker, we need more mobility and invention from the other two forwards.

Only Niang has shown any unpredictability and invention so far. Suso position needs someone else who has the ability to 'break structure' and combine inventively with the midfielders and with the other forwards.

Or alternately, we ditch Bacca and go for a forward who can do far more in build-up.
 
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Suggesting Pasalic to start alongside Kucka ruins whatever point you were trying to make.

That Chelsea kid is in no shape or form ready to start, and we shouldn't waste any time helping a raw, out-of-form kid who we don't even have a buyout option on. That's for cuckold clubs.
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I agree. Might not be him, but this type of player.
 
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Pato was never terrible.

Bona likes to dribble. And can we sign Amine Harit? We were linked with him.
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Definitely not a winger at all. He has much more the characteristics of a midfielder. Really missed Niang out there.
 
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Well, he was pretty good at LW in last years. Much better than Niang. Maybe it's just hard to switch mentally after focusing on another position?
 
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Ronin said:
Well, he was pretty good at LW in last years. Much better than Niang. Maybe it's just hard to switch mentally after focusing on another position?
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It depends on who's behind him.

Pasalic didn't help him with moving the ball up at all (which was obvious seeing how deep Bonaventura had to drop).
 
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Allan_Somewhere said:
It depends on who's behind him.

Pasalic didn't help him with moving the ball up at all (which was obvious seeing how deep Bonaventura had to drop).
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Pasalic looked great at first, then got lost :(
 
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Ronin said:
Well, he was pretty good at LW in last years. Much better than Niang. Maybe it's just hard to switch mentally after focusing on another position?
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Last season he played LM. Dont remember his position under pippo though
 
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Ronin said:
Pasalic looked great at first, then got lost :(
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From what little I've seen of Pasalic, it seems he's not able to hold his own defensively. He struggles a lot once the pressure in midfield builds up.
 
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Qaas said:
Last season he played LM. Dont remember his position under pippo though
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I believe it was LW and sometimes trequartista. He got 7 goals and 4 assists that season.
 
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