Problems + Suggestions

[Charbel]

I believe the "Brazilian Football Thread" should be a sticky by now.

[GreatKalu]

Originally Posted by Marcus

And how about people grow a pair and not cry for banning of words?

Kuja mate, I've got nothing against you or homosexuality, but to ban any words in whatever correlation with homosexuality is stupid. That is what people who hate homosexuality would do. Try to keep quiet about it, delete any references to it... ignore "the problem". Today we've come a long way since that. The fact that gay references are used as jokes and light and ironic insult shows that society isn't ignoring anymore, but accepting. Sure, it's far from perfect, but humans have always had troubles with anything different to them in any way. Trust me, if you stay true to yourself and try not to take it all to heart, you will soon learn to laugh at most of the things instead of taking them personally.

As for the word ******, my stance is the same. It's a wonderful word, a useful word and has a nice ring to it. Also, it shouldn't be offensive to people with mental disabilities. The reason behind this is that ****** doesn't mean someone who has any form of mental ******ation but people who don't yet manage to come across as being completely lobotomized.

Political correctness doesn't do good to anyone. As Schopenhauer said "Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right." This applies to everything actually, not just countries. Learn to laugh people. At Seedorf mostly.

I generally agree with this stance. To be honest, this is how the forum used to be when I joined. People were given a lot more freedom, and with it came responsible posting. Even then, we talked a lot more about football than we do nowadays with all the censorship, etc.

That said, I think that if the racist police had their way with regards to supposedly racist comments, then I believe the same should stand for Kuja's requests. It wouldn't be fair to address one matter, yet leave another as is.

Originally Posted by manutd fan

Even to me, when I said I thought Roy Keane was the best captain I've seen, about 15 people jumped on it, most without even using valid points. Of those 15 people, C4M was the only person who actually turned it into a legitimiate debate.

WTF did you expect? Its like me trolling a Manure Scum forum claiming Lee Catermole was the greatest captain I've ever seen

To you they may not have been valid ... but to everyone else, non-Manure Scum, it would.

[Jasper]

Originally Posted by MassterMark

iličič

anyway, pastore was not in center of the play, but he showed class.

Last post from masster! Onore masster! The formations will never be the same.

I permabanned him for continues insults towards (many) people who disagreed with him. No discounts since he has been banned before.

[Calum1903]

looooool mods getting tough on someone who doesn't fit with their clique if you don't love diving shitalian fags and pensioners, all you have to do to get banned is repeatedly troll and constantly resort to unprovoked personal insults against posters and players. democracy another casualty of m84's elite.

masster

[Sasha]

ZOMG Masster, Dru, AND Ashish banned? Nirvana!

[Calum1903]

Originally Posted by Sasha

ZOMG Masster, Dru, AND Ashish banned? Nirvana!

[Senatore_M84]

Originally Posted by Calum1903

looooool mods getting tough on someone who doesn't fit with their clique if you don't love diving shitalian fags and pensioners, all you have to do to get banned is repeatedly troll and constantly resort to unprovoked personal insults against posters and players. democracy another casualty of m84's elite.

masster

8 out of 10

Dru would never use me and elite in same sentence.

[MilanMB]

Mods destroying this forum ffs.

Banning words and banning members for no good reason is not good moderation IMO.

Bad decision Jasper.

This is becoming some kind of pussy forum... "ohh you insulted me, now I'm going to cry", grow a pair people.

[Shiby]

I can understand the ban for Masster... but why now out of the blue? He posted something that was over the top again that I missed?

I can recall many other days when he could get baned but he didn´t.

I guess bye bye Masster ... you were my first friend here

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Lisa

Another word for all of you to put on your no use list is "******" and "******ed", because, as I think all of you know, it's highly offensive. As for any subs, well there really isn't any is there, since you shouldn't insult someone just because you don't agree with his/her opinion. Thank you.

6 posts after:

Originally Posted by MassterMark

what's whong with ashish??? is he realy ******ed, to get ban every week?????

Don't know if that's the reason of the ban, but...

[manutd fan]

Originally Posted by GreatKalu

WTF did you expect? Its like me trolling a Manure Scum forum claiming Lee Catermole was the greatest captain I've ever seen

To you they may not have been valid ... but to everyone else, non-Manure Scum, it would.

Well, as it was actually a reasonable opinion, considering the reasons I gave, I was expecting atleast some half-reasonable replies.

Not from you of course...

Originally Posted by Calum1903

This forum makes me feel like a kid whose parents won't stop fighting. My psychotherapist will be getting a link to R&B when I hit my mid-life crisis.

[Kalac#16]

Originally Posted by Jasper

Last post from masster! Onore masster! The formations will never be the same.

I permabanned him for continues insults towards (many) people who disagreed with him. No discounts since he has been banned before.

You should have waited to ban him on a post that summed him up, something suggesting Strasser as the answer to life or another 3-3-2-2 formation.

stupid jasper, ****** as usual

[Sasha]

I refer the mods to the Dinh0 and Allegri threads. Time for a cleansing.

[Az.]

Originally Posted by Calum1903

looooool mods getting tough on someone who doesn't fit with their clique if you don't love diving shitalian fags and pensioners, all you have to do to get banned is repeatedly troll and constantly resort to unprovoked personal insults against posters and players. democracy another casualty of m84's elite.

masster

Must be the zillions cups of coffee in me right now,but im kinda happy.It feels strangely liberating to have a MM free forum.I feel like i should set new goals in my life now

[fertygo]

God, best ban ever !

[Senatore_M84]

Originally Posted by Sasha

I refer the mods to the Dinh0 and Allegri threads. Time for a cleansing.

I prefer the match thread.

sampdoria mach thread is possibly most embarassing thing i've ever read. I won't even open it, out of embarassment

[ezekiel2517]

Dru was one of the coolest posters around. What a shame.

[naive_harry]

Please do not overlook all the disrespect thrown at master for sharing his vision by all the other posters here. It is not always a one way streak.

[Jasper]

Originally Posted by MilanMB

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Banning words and banning members for no good reason is not good moderation IMO.

Bad decision Jasper.

You talking general or just about masster? No good reason to ban masster? He called at least 4 people a ****** in his last 25 posts(that's how deep I dug after looking at his posting). I deleted those now, so you are not able to see it but you can imagine + trust me they were there. Other members who saw them can confirm as well.

About banning words I'm having mixed feelings:

Originally Posted by Lisa

Going to post something about "rape". Can't deal with anything else til later tonight.

Originally Posted by Jasper

Should we(you ) do the same about '******'?

Originally Posted by Jasper

meh, just realized I can't/shouldn't use 'full ******' anymore. well done

stupid jasper, ****** as usual. Shot myself in the foot here. Think I liked the idea only because I would've preferred it to banning users.
Now I'm thinking this happened since users like masster made the word look

Originally Posted by MilanMB

This is becoming some kind of pussy forum... "ohh you insulted me, now I'm going to cry", grow a pair people.

Ironically masster was reported by several users who weren't directly insulted but concerned how this will end up if it's allowed. I share their concerns.

Originally Posted by Shiby

I can understand the ban for Masster... but why now out of the blue? He posted something that was over the top again that I missed?

I can recall many other days when he could get baned but he didn´t.

I guess bye bye Masster ... you were my first friend here

Hmm ... masster probably could have done worse on some day but it certainly isn't out of the blue. Also remember it takes time for us to make the decision and admittably it takes time for us to take it under focus.

[acmilan4ever]

Lisa warned him in the Rumor Commode thread about the usage of the words '******' and '******ed' and yet he went and used them in 3 different post. He asked for it, atleast for a temporary ban.

Good work Jasper.