Andrea Pirlo Thread

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
Ok so he's a defensive mid huh?

He is and he isn't. As I said earlier, most Pirlo-bashers at least acknowlegde that he's playing in a position that doesn't suit his game. So he's put in the DM position but he isn't a natural DM. I can only assume that it must be difficult to think about playmaking when your trying to win back possession for the team and clear your lines. I'd love to see Pirlo play higher up the park but if that isn't going to happen I think it's extremely unfair to balme Pirlo for the situation.

drucurl said:
Can he tackle? Is he tough enough to get stuck in? Can he retain possesion when pressured by opposition cdm's?

Yeah, I see him doing those things. I don't expect it 100% of the time as it'd be unrealistic to expect that from any player.

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Milano84 said:
i think my explanation is actually simpler... it explains how you score and defend

ummm but to your point interesting theory BUUUT, 1982 world cup directly spits in your logic's face. "Joga Bonito" lost.

but it's a back and forth in my opinion.... great offense, great defense. I don't think 1>other. Just a matter of the day.

1994 final is a favorite, but i feel it was pretty even, probably actually favored the italians. High powered brazil couldn't score. It went to PK's and Brazil won, it happens but thats hardly 'raping'. The current brazil side is VERY tactical though. no denying that, and w/ more natural talent has owned current italian side

yeah but you have to agree that whether or not Romario, Bebeto etc could have played the beautiful game or not, it would be suicidal vs Baresi and co. It was like us vs juve in 03. With the exception of the beautiful play that led to sheva's goal we didn't risk much even though we were by far the more attacking side and juve lacked nedved. In both cases the more tactical side lost because they couldn't deliver when it came down to the basics- in this case shooting a penalty kick. their suffocation of space only took them to the pks which they failed at in each case. I'm not saying that you're wrong because i'm sure you could furnish numerous examples to support your case like Greece etc. I simply prefer to see a side outplay another than suffocate them

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Wow I guess people think that Pirlo would play an out and out CAM. that would be a good idea if he didn't SUCK at it @ Brecia, Inter and with us the few times Carlo tried it . Now people are expecting him to do better when put under HEAVIER defence :rolleyes:

. Common sense would suggest that he'd get raped but I guess his magical space powers would keep defenders at bay for him to orchestrate more

Sasha · Feb 9, 2010

We should play Pirlo in Dinho's position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLefJ7S7b00

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2010

MilanoMichael said:
We should play Pirlo in Dinho's position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLefJ7S7b00

I loved that goal haha I paused it on the TV and called my dad and sister into the room to see it

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

I'm quoting the article on Pirlo being overrated because other than the Milan dis I agree with everything:

"

AKA...........'The Poster Boy of Everything good and bad and ugly about Serie A'

When Serie A and Italian football is on top of the world inevitably Pirlo gets a nod in the FIFA World Player or Ballon D'Or running. When Serie A is in the toilet, likewise Pirlo's reputation suffers. Why? Because the man impersonates alot of the charactistics of Serie A.

He is slow, languid, postioned defensively and while some parts of his game, like long passing and set pieces are top class, every other part of his game ranges from mediocore to rubbish.

From a technical standpoint he, like Carrick for Man U, and Xabi Alonso for Liverpool, is lacking in the close quarters technique that any complete midfielder should have in being able to navigate and create space in the middle of the park for his team. This means one must have a bulldog like Gattuso beside him or a magician like Kaka further up the pitch to make up for what should be provided in one player.

Thus he stoutly maintains himself 20 yards back from the battle in front of the back four, rarely busting a gut to get into the oppostion box. But even as a DM he lacks the work-rate (or more cyncially, the physique) to break up oppostition play either.

When Ancelotti pushed Pirlo further back on the pitch after Inter sold him, he did it because it was a recognition of his weaknesses, not his strengths.

Unlike Xabi Alonso, who gets the recognition he deserves (as a better version of Pirlo) and Carrick who gets hardly any recognition (which he deserves), Pirlo gets too much recognition."

Indeed my point exactly. For Piro's talents to be exploited he needs so much backup that tbh he isn't worth the fuss.

Ashish · Feb 9, 2010

pirlo for italian nt 100X better than milan one, i dont take anything away from him for his wc performance but he has been mediocre in that milan jersey that concerns me, for the player who never gets benched and around him our whole midfield rotate should give us better performance something similar to essien xavi iniesta like but he has been inconsistent and average for a long time.

necromancer · Feb 9, 2010

It is slightly weird that our best player in the last game and one of our better players this season, not to mention the architect of our most important victory, gets so much criticism here.

But yes, he should stop taking the free-kicks. That might prove to be an issue though, because there was probably a deal that Dinho would take the penalties and Pirlo the freekicks. If those roles are swapped, I doubt Dinho would be happy. And if Dinho gets to do both, I doubt Pirlo would be happy. Sensitive issue.

Esoteric · Feb 9, 2010

necromancer said:
It is slightly weird that our best player in the last game and one of our better players this season, not to mention the architect of our most important victory, gets so much criticism here.

But yes, he should stop taking the free-kicks. That might prove to be an issue though, because there was probably a deal that Dinho would take the penalties and Pirlo the freekicks. If those roles are swapped, I doubt Dinho would be happy. And if Dinho gets to do both, I doubt Pirlo would be happy. Sensitive issue.

It's not about them being happy. They can fuck off if they want to act like crybabies.

necromancer · Feb 9, 2010

Esoteric said:
It's not about them being happy. They can fuck off if they want to act like crybabies.

I doubt if its as simple as that. Players like Ronaldinho and Pirlo are not just senior players, but superstars. Things like these might have well gone into their contract while we were negotiating.

GreatKalu · Feb 9, 2010

necromancer said:
It is slightly weird that our best player in the last game and one of our better players this season, not to mention the architect of our most important victory, gets so much criticism here.

But yes, he should stop taking the free-kicks. That might prove to be an issue though, because there was probably a deal that Dinho would take the penalties and Pirlo the freekicks. If those roles are swapped, I doubt Dinho would be happy. And if Dinho gets to do both, I doubt Pirlo would be happy. Sensitive issue.

I doubt there's a deal as such. Dinho has had his fair deal of free kick opportunities. Neither have scored or looked like scoring. For the long distance FKs, I'd rather Silva or Pato have a go ... as both Dinho and Pirlo don't seem to put much power in their FKs from distance. Anyway, its not like Dinho + Becks did any better with FKs against Livorno.

That said, reason why Pirlo has been consistently good for the NT is that they are dynamic ... not that much, but enough. Fullbacks pushing forward, the front two making runs, swapping positions and role, etc.

Milan have been far too STATIC. If no runs are made, who do you expect Pirlo to pass to? Open spaces?

necromancer · Feb 9, 2010

madtherchot said:
I doubt there's a deal as such. Dinho has had his fair deal of free kick opportunities. Neither have scored or looked like scoring. For the long distance FKs, I'd rather Silva or Pato have a go ... as both Dinho and Pirlo don't seem to put much power in their FKs from distance. Anyway, its not like Dinho + Becks did any better with FKs against Livorno.

That said, reason why Pirlo has been consistently good for the NT is that they are dynamic ... not that much, but enough. Fullbacks pushing forward, the front two making runs, swapping positions and role, etc.

Milan have been far too STATIC. If no runs are made, who do you expect Pirlo to pass to? Open spaces?

Which is why I am surprised at the criticism here. He has been playing well in Leo's 4-2-fantasia. But he should stop taking freekicks from any position I think. He has clearly lost that technique. Yes, Silva and even Seedorf are good options.

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
I'm quoting the article on Pirlo being overrated because other than the Milan dis I agree with everything:

"AKA...........'The Poster Boy of Everything good and bad and ugly about Serie A'

When Serie A and Italian football is on top of the world inevitably Pirlo gets a nod in the FIFA World Player or Ballon D'Or running. When Serie A is in the toilet, likewise Pirlo's reputation suffers. Why? Because the man impersonates alot of the charactistics of Serie A.

That makes no sense. A more accurate statement would be "When Serie A is in the toilet, all Italian players' reputation suffers." But even that's unrealistic coz Italian players still appeared in FIFA World player of the year running since Calciopoli. Also, when Italy were on top of the world when they won the world cup in '06, Pirlo wasn't in the running for FIFA world player of the year, yet he was the following year.

No Italian players were in the 2009 Ballon D'or running and Buffon was the only Italian player in the running in 2008. So why single out Pirlo?

He is slow, languid, postioned defensively and while some parts of his game, like long passing and set pieces are top class, every other part of his game ranges from mediocore to rubbish.

Opinion.

From a technical standpoint he, like Carrick for Man U, and Xabi Alonso for Liverpool, is lacking in the close quarters technique that any complete midfielder should have in being able to navigate and create space in the middle of the park for his team. This means one must have a bulldog like Gattuso beside him or a magician like Kaka further up the pitch to make up for what should be provided in one player.

That makes no sense either. Having Kaka further up the pitch doesn't enable a player to "navigate and create space in the middle of the park." The benefit of having Kaka in the team was his movement off the ball, he made himself available. This is perhaps more of an acknowledgement that Pirlo doesn't always have as much options now as opposed to highlighting a deficiency of his.

When Ancelotti pushed Pirlo further back on the pitch after Inter sold him, he did it because it was a recognition of his weaknesses, not his strengths.

The article you've copied this from (possibly goal.com) was probably written by an Inter fan and it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. How old is it that it names Alonso playing for Liverpool?

If you searched the net for articles on Pirlo some will criticise him, some will praise him. It's all opinion and at the end of the day means nothing. No way does Pirlo get too much recognition.

Dwa Milan · Feb 9, 2010

madtherchot said:
I doubt there's a deal as such. Dinho has had his fair deal of free kick opportunities. Neither have scored or looked like scoring. For the long distance FKs, I'd rather Silva or Pato have a go ... as both Dinho and Pirlo don't seem to put much power in their FKs from distance. Anyway, its not like Dinho + Becks did any better with FKs against Livorno.

That said, reason why Pirlo has been consistently good for the NT is that they are dynamic ... not that much, but enough. Fullbacks pushing forward, the front two making runs, swapping positions and role, etc.

Milan have been far too STATIC. If no runs are made, who do you expect Pirlo to pass to? Open spaces?

which unfortunately he does, and that what's all the haters criticize about..
he does need more movements, there are no Sheva, cafu, serginho and Kaka anymore that make those runs for him..

GreatKalu · Feb 9, 2010

necromancer said:
Which is why I am surprised at the criticism here. He has been playing well in Leo's 4-2-fantasia. But he should stop taking freekicks from any position I think. He has clearly lost that technique. Yes, Silva and even Seedorf are good options.

I wouldn't say his lost the technique. He hasn't scored a well placed curler in a while ... but the shots with pace that move in the air ... I think he's still nailing them pretty well. Also, his corners and balls into the box from setpieces have been pretty good this season.

I think we've handled it well. FKs closer to the goal have been taken by Dinho ... further apart, Pirlo or even DInho at times. Unless there's someone else more capable, then Pirlo, Becks and DInho should take them. Pato and Silva from distance though ... pretty impressive.

GreatKalu · Feb 9, 2010

Dwa Milan said:
which unfortunately he does, and that what's all the haters criticize about..
he does need more movements, there are no Sheva, cafu, serginho and Kaka anymore that make those runs for him..

You can be the most gifted passer since a football was made ... but if no one makes runs, then you have no one to pass to. That simple really. Our front line is way too static. Pirlo found both Abate and Antonini well against Bolgona ... as he did Bori and Mancini. Can someone tell me why he didn't find Dinho similarly? :conf:

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

To all Pirlo fans

EOD

Christian · Feb 9, 2010

Whats up with some people's obsession with bashing Pirlo? Oh we drew, it's Pirlo's fault, oh we won, it was despite of Pirlo... Seriously guys, I'm sorry but you're beginning to look stupid, especially quoting an article by a guy who probably doesn't even watch Italian football, at least that's what it looks like.

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
EOD

If you need to resort to name-calling that's a sign you need to improve your argument.

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Riccardo V said:
If you need to resort to name-calling that's a sign you need to improve your argument.

It was a joke..apparently the smilies at the top and bottom of the page didn't tip you off? :head:

Maybe the pic is right after all

Oh and thanks for replying to the "Pirlo sucked as CAM at Inter" argument you obviously are owning me enough to resort to namecalling :rolleyes:

But Hey you wouldn't like to get into the fact that Pirlo had GREAT strikers to feed @ Inter and you couldn't get more mobile than a pre-Madrid Ronaldo and a Zanetti in his prime as fullback etc...because then your "Pirlo is great if only he played in his "true position" argument would fall flat. The fact is Ancelotti made the best of Pirlo's talents, as incomplete as they are the same way Sir Alex Ferguson used Beckham as a component in his treble winning side. Naturally neither has recaptured the form of the past once conditions where they are not FULLY supported change. The only difference is that Beckham is actually a GOOD free kick taker, shooter and passer and FAR superior to Pirlo at these basic elements of the game so he could still be of some use. If conditions are not set up well for Pirlo however he becomes very limited in his contribution.

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
It was a joke..apparently the smilies at the top and bottom of the page didn't tip you off?

Maybe the pic is right after all

Oh and thanks for replying to the "Pirlo sucked as CAM at Inter" argument you obviously are owning me enough to resort to namecalling But Hey you wouldn't like to get into the fact that Pirlo had GREAT strikers to feed @ Inter and you couldn't get more mobile than a pre-Madrid Ronaldo and a Zanetti in his prime as fullback etc...because then your "Pirlo is great if only he played in his "true position" argument would fall flat. The fact is Ancelotti made the best of Pirlo's talents, as incomplete as they are the same way Sir Alex Ferguson used Beckham as a component in his treble winning side. Naturally neither has recaptured the form of the past once conditions where they are not FULLY supported change. The only difference is that Beckham is actually a GOOD free kick taker, shooter and passer and FAR superior to Pirlo so he could still be of some use. If conditions are not set up well for Pirlo however he becomes very limited in his contribution.

Pirlo has been moved up the field while he is playing for Italy, and he has been very impressive there because it puts in in position to make the killer pass in the final third, and he also doesnt have to worry about defending that much with De Rossi and Paolombo behind him (and that can be read Ambro and Flamini for us)

Pirlo has matured as a player over the years and he can just be the player that he is and just play to what he does well, unlike when he was young and tried to do things that he just doesnt really have the skill set for.

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
It was a joke..apparently the smilies at the top and bottom of the page didn't tip you off?

Yeah, I knew it was a joke and don't get me wrong, I like a good laugh. I was just disappointed that the debate seemed to have dried up and all that was left was name-calling.

drucurl said:
Oh and thanks for replying to the "Pirlo sucked as CAM at Inter" argument you obviously are owning me enough to resort to namecalling

Are you referring to the term "Pirlo-bashers"? If you find that offensive then I do apologise because I'm not here to offend anyone, but I don't know what else to call Pirlo-ba***rs. Pirlo-haters?

drucurl said:
But Hey you wouldn't like to get into the fact that Pirlo had GREAT strikers to feed @ Inter and you couldn't get more mobile than a pre-Madrid Ronaldo and a Zanetti in his prime as fullback etc...because then your "Pirlo is great if only he played in his "true position" argument would fall flat. The fact is Ancelotti made the best of Pirlo's talents, as incomplete as they are the same way Sir Alex Ferguson used Beckham as a component in his treble winning side. Naturally neither has recaptured the form of the past once conditions where they are not FULLY supported change. The only difference is that Beckham is actually a GOOD free kick taker, shooter and passer and FAR superior to Pirlo so he could still be of some use. If conditions are not set up well for Pirlo however he becomes very limited in his contribution.

This is the problem for me, Pirlo is not a natural DM but he's been forced to play there, if he was to move into a CAM position would that suit him now that he's been a deep-lying playmaker for so long? I don't know. Pirlo-haters get into comparing Pirlo with other players - earlier it was Dinho, now Beckham. If your going to compare any players FK's to Beckham's it's unfair coz there isn't many better than him.

I'm satisfied with Pirlo in the position he is in, I don't need him to play CAM to still appreciate him. I also understand that he makes mistakes or doesn't always play the right ball. What I don't understand is how is that any different from any other player? Ronaldo, Zanetti, Beckham... they've never had a pass go astray, never make errors in judgement?

Pirlo-fans don't think that he's the best player ever to walk the earth, that he's better than Messi, Kaka and Ronaldo. But he's one of the main reasons that I got into Italian football and AC Milan. I don't expect perfection from the guy and I don't think anyone should. Can you understand where I'm coming from?

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Riccardo V said:
Yeah, I knew it was a joke and don't get me wrong, I like a good laugh. I was just disappointed that the debate seemed to have dried up and all that was left was name-calling.

Are you referring to the term "Pirlo-bashers"? If you find that offensive then I do apologise because I'm not here to offend anyone, but I don't know what else to call Pirlo-ba***rs. Pirlo-haters?

This is the problem for me, Pirlo is not a natural DM but he's been forced to play there, if he was to move into a CAM position would that suit him now that he's been a deep-lying playmaker for so long? I don't know. Pirlo-haters get into comparing Pirlo with other players - earlier it was Dinho, now Beckham. If your going to compare any players FK's to Beckham's it's unfair coz there isn't many better than him.

I'm satisfied with Pirlo in the position he is in, I don't need him to play CAM to still appreciate him. I also understand that he makes mistakes or doesn't always play the right ball. What I don't understand is how is that any different from any other player? Ronaldo, Zanetti, Beckham... they've never had a pass go astray, never make errors in judgement?

Pirlo-fans don't think that he's the best player ever to walk the earth, that he's better than Messi, Kaka and Ronaldo. But he's one of the main reasons that I got into Italian football and AC Milan. I don't expect perfection from the guy and I don't think anyone should. Can you understand where I'm coming from?

Very reasonable

And no you didn't offend me. I was just saying that I don't feel cornered in this argument to resort to name calling myself...not that you were insulting me.

Don't agree with the bold though. And it's my main problem tbh. I actually appreciate Andrea believe it or not. My problem is when he keeps getting credit for things that are EXPECTED of any top team player. Even the FSC commentators keep referring to him as the "free kick specialist". When was the last time he scored one? The other thing is there's a disproportionate yardstick when judging him. ronaldinho scored a hattrick vs Siena...ppl go "meh it's only Siena" and didn't score vs Inter and the knives come out :rolleyes:

. If Pirlo has ONE good game it's a license to play shit till he's good again. The SAD thing is that I'm not even a Ronaldinho fan. I want him replaced but only with a BETTER player and the truth is that atm there are few of them.

Senatore_M84 · Feb 9, 2010

dru, face it... pirlo was one of the most important player on 2003, 2007 ucl and 2006 world cup champions.

if he offers so little wouldn't intelligent coaches not play him? I mean if he can't tackle and lacks any real vision, wouldn't a coach just bench him??? Or maybe he is what keeps us from being like inter and just having some attackers (sheva, kaka... milito, etoo) and grinders (gattuso, ambrosini... cambiasso, muntari, zanetti). I've always thought key to milan playing good football has been playing w/ player like pirlo instead of just 2 DMs and 2 Attacking mids or something...

or mabe you r right and carlo, lippi, leo and others r wrong.

but he the keepers of the 'beautiful game' who lov attacking free flowing football like dunga and mourinho don't like him!

Ashish · Feb 9, 2010

Milano84 said:
dru, face it... pirlo was one of the most important player on 2003, 2007 ucl and 2006 world cup champions.

dont care about 2006

in 2003
pippo sheva gattu rui cafu maldini nesta dida all were better or of pirlos level so he was one among the many

and in 2007 he was not upto mark the trophy is kaka through and through
pippo for finals and bayern, gattu for his spirited performance, seed played better than pirlo
maldini nesta were better than him so pirlo was not best among our players

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Milano84 said:
dru, face it... pirlo was one of the most important player on 2003, 2007 ucl and 2006 world cup champions.

if he offers so little wouldn't intelligent coaches not play him? I mean if he can't tackle and lacks any real vision, wouldn't a coach just bench him??? Or maybe he is what keeps us from being like inter and just having some attackers (sheva, kaka... milito, etoo) and grinders (gattuso, ambrosini... cambiasso, muntari, zanetti). I've always thought key to milan playing good football has been playing w/ player like pirlo instead of just 2 DMs and 2 Attacking mids or something...

or mabe you r right and carlo, lippi, leo and others r wrong.

but he the keepers of the 'beautiful game' who lov attacking free flowing football like dunga and mourinho don't like him!

First of all I NEVER said he has no vision. If I did I take it back wholeheartedly and with a thousand apologies. If it's ONE thing he has in abundance it's vision. His tackling, pace, free kicks etc are shit. His vision and passing (sometimes) are great.

Him being on the World Cup winning side really doesn't say much. Lippi, like Ancelotti used him as a COMPONENT and not as a complete player in a winning squad. Actually us being like Inter wouldn't be that bad...they're actually winning shit...while our sex football orchestrated by the maestro himself can't crack Livorno and Bolonga. And I say this with equal criticism on Ronaldinho and Seedorf as well. But unlike Pirlo these only suffer from a lack of mobility. They don't have Pirlo's other plethora of flaws.

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
Very reasonable

And no you didn't offend me. I was just saying that I don't feel cornered in this argument to resort to name calling myself...not that you were insulting me.

Don't agree with the bold though. And it's my main problem tbh. I actually appreciate Andrea believe it or not. My problem is when he keeps getting credit for things that are EXPECTED of any top team player. Even the FSC commentators keep referring to him as the "free kick specialist". When was the last time he scored one? The other thing is there's a disproportionate yardstick when judging him. ronaldinho scored a hattrick vs Siena...ppl go "meh it's only Siena" and didn't score vs Inter and the knives come out . If Pirlo has ONE good game it's a license to play shit till he's good again. The SAD thing is that I'm not even a Ronaldinho fan. I want him replaced but only with a BETTER player and the truth is that atm there are few of them.

Right, ok, I can accept that. I know exactly what you mean about Pirlo being called a "dead-ball specialist". Yeah, that was true at one stage, but even I can admit that Pirlo is not the player he once was, but he's still one of my faves! But seriously, don't rage against Pirlo because of what commentators say, of all things!

If he can't take a decent FK, then by all means have someone else do it. FK duties are now shared between Pirlo, Dinho and Beckham anyway.

Anyone who says: "It's only Siena" needs to re-watch their performance against Inter. I loved that hat-trick and I wouldn't take anything away from Dinho. But what you said about the knives coming out about Dinho after the Siena game, to me that's exactly what happens with Pirlo. If he misses a FK or fails to hit target the guy gets absolutley slated. But Becks and Dinho, who I think should be better than Pirlo at FK's, don't always succeed either. The last goal from a FK that I can remember Dinho scoring was against Portsmouth in last years UEFA Cup (I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time). Has Beckham scored from a FK since Genoa last season? (which was superb!)

drucurl · Feb 9, 2010

Riccardo V said:
Right, ok, I can accept that. I know exactly what you mean about Pirlo being called a "dead-ball specialist". Yeah, that was true at one stage, but even I can admit that Pirlo is not the player he once was, but he's still one of faves! But seriously, don't rage against Pirlo because of what commentators say, of all things!

If he can't take a decent FK, then by all means have someone else do it. FK duties are now shared between Pirlo, Dinho and Beckham anyway.

Anyone who says: "It's only Siena" needs to re-watch their performance against Inter. I loved that hat-trick and I wouldn't take anything away from Dinho. But what you said about the knives coming out about Dinho after the Siena game, to me that's exactly what happens with Pirlo. If he misses a FK or fails to hit target the guy gets absolutley slated. But Becks and Dinho, who I think should be better than Pirlo at FK's, don't always succeed either. The last goal from a FK that I can remember Dinho scoring was against Portsmouth in last years UEFA Cup (I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time). Has Beckham scored from a FK since Genoa last season? (which was superb!)

ok so we're on the same page then

Does this mean I have to start bashing Pirlo less? :cry:

Riccardo V · Feb 9, 2010

drucurl said:
ok so we're on the same page then

Does this mean I have to start bashing Pirlo less?

No, you don't have to stop bashing Pirlo. If you did, I wouldn't be able to jump to his defence! Maybe Pirlo needs his critics so that when he comes away with something like his goal against Real, the moment is miles better.

Look... you and I are Rossoneri brothers. I'd much rather we were slagging off Inter and their fans together of course, but as a Milan fan it's your duty to pick up on where things are going wrong, even if it's other people's favourite players. You just have to know that if I see what I think is unfair criticism I'll be letting you know!

milan1st · Feb 9, 2010

Kudos to RicardoV. Too many to quote but very qualitative :star:

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