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Old 25-04-2005, 12:17   #81
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Does anyone know why Sheva was making such a fuss about being brought off? Seems a bit pathetic to me! Any ideas anyone?
I think all the hype that he is the Golden Ball Winner has gotten to his mind he should change his attitude in the game and when ever he gets taken off or the club should fine him or even ban him, Milan dont tolerate that kinda shit


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Old 25-04-2005, 12:23   #82
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Of course I won't gush all over a crap performance like u do, *I* have my senses together.
I gush over crap performances pfft looks whos talking mate you just about critisize every bloody player every week


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Old 25-04-2005, 13:07   #83
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Really pleased for Cafu to score and also for Pippo to make an appearance. What an amazing welcome he received aswell. I am dissapointed though because i do not want to see Parma in Serie B.
Same here. I hope Pippo can play more in the coming games and both Pippo and Sheva start to score again.

It's a bit pathetic to see how Parma is doing in this season. I really enjoyed watching and liked Parma when there were Cannavaro, Buffon, Thuram, Veron and Crespo. After their leaving, those young players actually were quite energetic and could sometimes give us surprises. But they didn't do that anymore. I hope to see Prandelli being the coach again. He's the only one I think who suits Parma the best.


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Old 25-04-2005, 14:55   #84
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Does anyone know why Sheva was making such a fuss about being brought off? Seems a bit pathetic to me! Any ideas anyone?
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I think all the hype that he is the Golden Ball Winner has gotten to his mind he should change his attitude in the game and when ever he gets taken off or the club should fine him or even ban him, Milan dont tolerate that kinda shit
Shevchenko Apologises To Ancelotti
4/25/2005 10:52:00 AM www.goal.com
Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko has apologised to coach Carlo Ancelotti after reacting angrily to being substituted in the win over Parma at the weekend.
"I made a mistake," said the Ukrainian, who was replaced by Filippo Inzaghi.

"It was just that every striker wants to play as much as possible because I felt that I could score more goals in the match."

Shevchenko will start the Champions League semi-final first-leg against PSV Eindhoven on Tuesday.


Forgive him, forgive him. He knew he did something wrong. Let's don't forget what he's done for Milan in years


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Old 25-04-2005, 15:06   #85
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4/25/2005 10:52:00 AM www.goal.com
Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko has apologised to coach Carlo Ancelotti after reacting angrily to being substituted in the win over Parma at the weekend.
"I made a mistake," said the Ukrainian, who was replaced by Filippo Inzaghi.

"It was just that every striker wants to play as much as possible because I felt that I could score more goals in the match."

Shevchenko will start the Champions League semi-final first-leg against PSV Eindhoven on Tuesday.

Forgive him, forgive him. He knew he did something wrong. Let's don't forget what he's done for Milan in years
So he should apologise, that excuse aint good enough either in my opinion. Still we have to put it behind us and focus on tuesday now.


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Old 25-04-2005, 17:50   #86
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Ah, I knew there was sth waiting to be criticized, dunno why I forgot it.. Sorry, it won't happen again

Sheva.

He was bitching throughout the match when Kaka', Seedorf etc attempted shots instead of serving him. Then his phony hug for Pippo followed by his cynic remarks towards Ancelotti. Don't know if the Ballon d'Or has gone to his head, he really should show a bit more respect for the coach + his team mates + not take everything for granted. As for being robbed of the chance to score, well, he had 80 minutes. Fuck that egoism !


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Old 25-04-2005, 18:32   #87
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of course Passion.. that was very stupid and arogant, i wasn't expect that from him. now I heard he apologised, that's good. didn't scored in 80 minutes and we also need to rest him a little for PSV game..
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Old 25-04-2005, 20:44   #88
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All though I don't like it when teammates argue, Seedorf at times, looked like he'd never pass. And in the beginning there were a couple of times when he should have laid it off to someone else instead of shooting.

If I remember correctly Sheva hasn't scored in a league game since February combined with the way Parma were playing I think he had it in his mind that he had to score especially before the game vs. PSV. He was just trying to do too much. He acted like an idiot, but corrected himself later, so things should be fine.

If I was Ancelotti I would have taken him of as well. It was obvious that Parma weren't going to even break a sweet trying to wi, so we might as well save some of his energy for PSV on Tuesday.

Boy did Parma look bad!


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Old 25-04-2005, 21:26   #89
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Ah, I knew there was sth waiting to be criticized, dunno why I forgot it.. Sorry, it won't happen again

Sheva.

He was bitching throughout the match when Kaka', Seedorf etc attempted shots instead of serving him. Then his phony hug for Pippo followed by his cynic remarks towards Ancelotti. Don't know if the Ballon d'Or has gone to his head, he really should show a bit more respect for the coach + his team mates + not take everything for granted. As for being robbed of the chance to score, well, he had 80 minutes. Fuck that egoism !
First of all Seedorf did need and did deserve scolding for his continuous attempts to shoot the poor birds in the sky, it was only after Sheva talked to him that he started to co-operate and Milan were able to find the net Otherwise he would've continued his silly individuality show which was getting on everyone's nerves, that I BET YOU
As for the 'phony' hug, I'm not really sure if you have super natural abilities that allow you to read inside one's heart and tell whether he's being phony or not, but you ought to know that Sheva's got no reason to be phony when hugging a teammate who's been out for ages ... His anger was towards Carletto and he let it out against Carletto, Pippo's got nothing to do with it
I know that he's an angel and everyone's expecting him to be one for all along ( ), but people make mistakes, some of them continue making them while others realize what went wrong ... I think Sheva belongs to the second category now after apologizing and there's no need to make a big deal out of a small thing ...

At least he looks cute even when he's mad

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Old 26-04-2005, 06:10   #90
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"Milan’s Andriy Shevchenko has apologised to boss Carlo Ancelotti for reacting angrily to being replaced in the win against Parma.

The Ukrainian striker wasn’t happy at his substitution in Saturday’s 3-0 victory and made his feelings clear to the tactician.

"His reaction did bother me," admitted Ancelotti. "Just as much as my decision to bring him off bothered the player.

"Everyone only saw the first part of our debate though, the second was completed in the changing room.

"Shevchenko came out of the locker room with a black eye and you all know why," he joked. "Nevertheless, we have sorted everything out."

The current European Player of the Year also insisted that his relationship with the Coach was now back to normal.

"I made a mistake," said the forward who was swapped for Pippo Inzaghi during the fixture. "Ancelotti was right and perhaps I deserved a punch in the face…

"It was just that every striker wants to play as much as possible because I felt that I could score more goals in the match."

Shevchenko, despite the little tension with Ancelotti, will start in Tuesday’s Champions’ League semi-final first leg against PSV Eindhoven.

Meanwhile, a similar incident occurred at Fiorentina when Fabrizio Miccoli reacted with anger after being replaced by Valeri Bojinov against Bologna.

"I explained to Miccoli that he looked a little tired to me," explained boss Dino Zoff.

What the hell is wrong with these boys? I mean especially Sheva. Is he trying really hard to f*** up the atmosphere that Carlo built, not that Seedorf hasn't tried with his individualism. This isn't the first time that Seedorf and Sheva are not getting along. If you remember in the match with Shaktior in Donetsk, Sheva was very angry throughout the whole game with Seedorf, and at a free kick they pushed each-oder, while making up the wall, and I don't think it was a friendly thing. And what the hell is it that "I deserved a punch in the face". Did Ancelotti hit Sheva? Or is it just self criticism?



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Old 26-04-2005, 10:14   #91
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4/25/2005 10:52:00 AM www.goal.com
Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko has apologised to coach Carlo Ancelotti after reacting angrily to being substituted in the win over Parma at the weekend.
"I made a mistake," said the Ukrainian, who was replaced by Filippo Inzaghi.

"It was just that every striker wants to play as much as possible because I felt that I could score more goals in the match."

Shevchenko will start the Champions League semi-final first-leg against PSV Eindhoven on Tuesday.


Forgive him, forgive him. He knew he did something wrong. Let's don't forget what he's done for Milan in years
Despite what he has done for the club in the past doesnt mean we should put up with this! I think Sheva is a great player he is a humble man, im a huge fan but not of what he did the other night

Its only right he did so, i know that Shevchenko is a very passionate player he wears his heart on his sleeve for club and country and i think at the end of the day he wants what we all do, Milan to win

I hope he learns from his mistake and that he should respect the coaches decisions in the future


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Old 26-04-2005, 10:29   #92
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apsolutly agree. I think everything is ok now and that's good..
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Old 26-04-2005, 18:46   #93
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First of all Seedorf did need and did deserve scolding for his continuous attempts to shoot the poor birds in the sky, it was only after Sheva talked to him that he started to co-operate and Milan were able to find the net
Oh really ? That's your interpretion, but not necessarily the truth. Of course Seedorf may have tried one shot too many but he seemed confident after winning us the match against Chievo + whether he wasted or Sheva... same difference, eh ?

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Otherwise he would've continued his silly individuality show which was getting on everyone's nerves, that I BET YOU
Did Sheva tell you ? People actually seemed a lot more annoyed with Sheva's conduct. The match is not supposed to be a 1-man Sheva Show either, you know.

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As for the 'phony' hug, I'm not really sure if you have super natural abilities that allow you to read inside one's heart and tell whether he's being phony or not, but you ought to know that Sheva's got no reason to be phony when hugging a teammate who's been out for ages . His anger was towards Carletto and he let it out against Carletto, Pippo's got nothing to do with it
PHONY.

If it had been coming from his heart, the idea to throw a childish fit at Ancelotti afterwards wouldn't even have crossed his mind. He would have been happy for Pippo, happy with the easy win + the result + happy Ancelotti was so considerate to take him off the pitch. A lot of shit can happen during 10 minutes, Sheva could have scored, but he also could have picked up an injury Ancelotti did it to protect him + was offered sneers in return .. Ahm well, I guess I wouldn't have left it at 'talking' about giving him a black eye

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I know that he's an angel and everyone's expecting him to be one for all along ( ), but people make mistakes, some of them continue making them while others realize what went wrong ... I think Sheva belongs to the second category now after apologizing and there's no need to make a big deal out of a small thing ...
It wasn't such a small incident + IMO it hasn't been blown our of proportion at all. Ancelotti was pissed off + even if he tried to make a bit of a joke out of it when talking to the media it remains an act of disrespect. Sheva, if he were the angel u claim he is (wonder how u would know), he would have known better than that. But.. he's just an ordinary guy with the pressure of a Ballon d'Or + a baby (or a wife ??? ) that doesn't let him sleep at night............... (lame excuse btw)

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At he looks cute even when he's mad
You + your CRUSH Losing one's temper always looks kinda ugly


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Old 29-04-2005, 14:12   #94
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Oh really ? That's your interpretion, but not necessarily the truth. Of course Seedorf may have tried one shot too many but he seemed confident after winning us the match against Chievo + whether he wasted or Sheva... same difference, eh ?
Nope, it's not the same when the ball is with a striker and with a midfielder who has a tendency to give away free balls to the crowds If he wants to desperately score 10 by the end of the league, then he obviously needs to train some more

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Did Sheva tell you ? People actually seemed a lot more annoyed with Sheva's conduct. The match is not supposed to be a 1-man Sheva Show either, you know.
He doesn't have to tell me 'cause I could see with my own eyes ... The match shouldn't be a Sheva nor a Seedorf show and in many of the balls Seedorf wasted could've been passed to someone else but Sheva, so it wasn't all about him either

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PHONY.

If it had been coming from his heart, the idea to throw a childish fit at Ancelotti afterwards wouldn't even have crossed his mind. He would have been happy for Pippo, happy with the easy win + the result + happy Ancelotti was so considerate to take him off the pitch. A lot of shit can happen during 10 minutes, Sheva could have scored, but he also could have picked up an injury Ancelotti did it to protect him + was offered sneers in return .. Ahm well, I guess I wouldn't have left it at 'talking' about giving him a black eye
That's why Carletto is coach and not you
I could be happy for my teammate's comeback and at the same time not happy 'cause I wasn't fielded until the end ... At least Sheva didn't mix things up and didn't reveal his anger on Carletto to Pippo, that's why I see it as a REAL hug

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It wasn't such a small incident + IMO it hasn't been blown our of proportion at all. Ancelotti was pissed off + even if he tried to make a bit of a joke out of it when talking to the media it remains an act of disrespect. Sheva, if he were the angel u claim he is (wonder how u would know), he would have known better than that. But.. he's just an ordinary guy with the pressure of a Ballon d'Or + a baby (or a wife ??? ) that doesn't let him sleep at night............... (lame excuse btw)
It WAS a small incident, you're the one who's trying to make a big deal of it 'cause Carletto and Sheva already made up, the latter apologized in media and apologized with a goal against PSV ... These things happen between coach and subordinate and in many cases, with other players, it could be worse where the player doesn't realize his mistake and keeps acting childishly, which is something Sheva didn't do ... I think both Carletto and Sheva are experienced enough to get over that silly thing just like a father and son would get over silly arguments

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Nope, it's not the same when the ball is with a striker and with a midfielder who has a tendency to give away free balls to the crowds
Damn, and I thought he was famous for his alleged (hihi) mid + long range shooting skills ? It makes no difference who scores, whether midfielder or forward + btw when was the last time you criticized midfielder Kaka' for his failed attempts ?

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The match shouldn't be a Sheva nor a Seedorf show and in many of the balls Seedorf wasted could've been passed to someone else but Sheva, so it wasn't all about him either
Oh yea, it was very much about him. He claimed the balls for himself, he was desperate to score since he hasn't done so since February I think. He sure has become less selfish compared to a few years ago, but you can hardly deny his very own defensive statement: *He* wanted to score.

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It WAS a small incident, you're the one who's trying to make a big deal of it 'cause Carletto and Sheva already made up, the latter apologized in media and apologized with a goal against PSV ... These things happen between coach and subordinate and in many cases, with other players, it could be worse where the player doesn't realize his mistake and keeps acting childishly, which is something Sheva didn't do
Not I started on it, someone else did. I only deemed it worthy of a discussion cos of the nature of the act, which seemed to be so *not* Sheva... Yea, he apologized, it was the least he could do + they all do it.. if they didn't they would get quite a bit of stick for daring to taint the picture of that perfect Milan family.... I don't care about the apology, I'd have preferred he hadn't thrown his childish fit in the first place. Btw, coach + subordinate sounds funny considering *star* players (+ their allies) are more powerful than coaches these days.


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Old 30-04-2005, 14:28   #96
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Damn, and I thought he was famous for his alleged (hihi) mid + long range shooting skills ? It makes no difference who scores, whether midfielder or forward + btw when was the last time you criticized midfielder Kaka' for his failed attempts ?
It happens that Seedorf scores from those shots, every once in a blue moon Besides, 'midfielder Kaka' does not try long shots as much as he used to before which is certainly a loss for us
The point is not whether a striker or a mid scores, the point is that if the striker's in a better position then he must be given the ball because his chances of scoring will be definitely better than a midfielder who's further away ...

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Oh yea, it was very much about him. He claimed the balls for himself, he was desperate to score since he hasn't done so since February I think. He sure has become less selfish compared to a few years ago, but you can hardly deny his very own defensive statement: *He* wanted to score.
No, it was not all about him 'cause Seedorf's individual show was negatively affecting the whole team and I believe Sheva's reaction helped them play as a team and score later on as opposed to watching uncle Zee Zee's continuous torture Sheva's wish to score is something that exists in every match and even if the desire was bigger this time, it doesn't mean his discussion with Seedorf was purely for himself ... Don't forget Seedorf's aim to reach 10 goals which, in my opinion, makes him look like the selfish one in this case

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Not I started on it, someone else did. I only deemed it worthy of a discussion cos of the nature of the act, which seemed to be so *not* Sheva... Yea, he apologized, it was the least he could do + they all do it.. if they didn't they would get quite a bit of stick for daring to taint the picture of that perfect Milan family.... I don't care about the apology, I'd have preferred he hadn't thrown his childish fit in the first place. Btw, coach + subordinate sounds funny considering *star* players (+ their allies) are more powerful than coaches these days.
Funny how you can understand poor little Totti for spitting around and you can't stand Sheva for this silly thing, but hey, everyone's got favourites
What's happened has happened and no one can turn back the time for you No person on earth is perfect, Sheva's made a mistake just like everyone else does, so live with it

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