Massimiliano Allegri Thread II

Which fortunate team will hear 'Dai Dai Dai' next?

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Damn Fiats? (are the players supplied Fiats?)

We get Audis.. lol
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They had a Ferrari bonus for scudetto win 2012, I think. They didn't want to pay it to Elia :lol:

Can't get a sponsor outside their family :lol:
 
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Juventus patron John Elkann reveals new Coach Massimiliano Allegri “has always been a Bianconeri fan!”

“He feels profoundly connected to Juventus and confessed to me he has always been a Bianconeri fan!”

I knew it!
 
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milanist said:
Juventus patron John Elkann reveals new Coach Massimiliano Allegri “has always been a Bianconeri fan!”

“He feels profoundly connected to Juventus and confessed to me he has always been a Bianconeri fan!”

I knew it!
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Probably thats why Galliani really liked him... Juve fans in disguise :o
 
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Would explain a lot.. like giving away the Scudetto to Ladri.

Grazie Max :proud:
 
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Allegri and ALL of his fans have eternally been JuBe fans
 
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From this...

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to this...

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If there's one thing we can all count on him to do is be incompetent :lol:


Hope that game was foreshadowing of what's to come this season
 
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If we buy a decent forward and a proper mid, and Allegri manages to stay as Juve's coach till February/March... top 3 end of this season could look something like this

Roma
Napoli
Milan
 
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Pharaoh said:
If there's one thing we can all count on him to do is be incompetent :lol:


Hope that game was foreshadowing of what's to come this season
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The more and more hindsight steps in, the more and more I see that he was a decent tactician that sometimes got it spot on but he was a HORRIBLE leader.

I know that guys like Senatore mock the 'motivation' component of a player's performance but it's a critical ingredient for leaders to achieve a goal. It's not just the 'work rate' type of motivation, but the mental fortitude, the 'belief', the 'buy in' to the plan or the decision to play or not play a certain way or a player. Keeping everyone focused and maintaining the respect of your team as a leader is a huge part of success. Allegri didn't have that. Period. He was no alpha.

With that said, 'incompetent' he is NOT. Specifically on the tactics part. It's almost like he'd make a better assistant coach. eh. whatevs
 
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So this guy was apparently a Juve fan? Yeah, like Balotelli was a Milan fan and Ibra was an Inter fan...
 
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General said:
The more and more hindsight steps in, the more and more I see that he was a decent tactician that sometimes got it spot on but he was a HORRIBLE leader.

I know that guys like Senatore mock the 'motivation' component of a player's performance but it's a critical ingredient for leaders to achieve a goal. It's not just the 'work rate' type of motivation, but the mental fortitude, the 'belief', the 'buy in' to the plan or the decision to play or not play a certain way or a player. Keeping everyone focused and maintaining the respect of your team as a leader is a huge part of success. Allegri didn't have that. Period. He was no alpha.

With that said, 'incompetent' he is NOT. Specifically on the tactics part. It's almost like he'd make a better assistant coach. eh. whatevs
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That we can agree on
 
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General said:
The more and more hindsight steps in, the more and more I see that he was a decent tactician that sometimes got it spot on but he was a HORRIBLE leader.

I know that guys like Senatore mock the 'motivation' component of a player's performance but it's a critical ingredient for leaders to achieve a goal. It's not just the 'work rate' type of motivation, but the mental fortitude, the 'belief', the 'buy in' to the plan or the decision to play or not play a certain way or a player. Keeping everyone focused and maintaining the respect of your team as a leader is a huge part of success. Allegri didn't have that. Period. He was no alpha.

With that said, 'incompetent' he is NOT. Specifically on the tactics part. It's almost like he'd make a better assistant coach. eh. whatevs
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He lost the team eventually but it's unfair to say it was always the case.

I just think people said it way too early. 2012-13 was all motivation. That team played so hard.


More than anything i can't stand arm-chair GMs who want to fire a coach on 1 poor result.

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My thought on Allegri is he has a taxing style which wears on people after time. These guys can be great managers but aren't usually long term guys. 2-3 year guys
 
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General said:
The more and more hindsight steps in, the more and more I see that he was a decent tactician that sometimes got it spot on but he was a HORRIBLE leader.

I know that guys like Senatore mock the 'motivation' component of a player's performance but it's a critical ingredient for leaders to achieve a goal. It's not just the 'work rate' type of motivation, but the mental fortitude, the 'belief', the 'buy in' to the plan or the decision to play or not play a certain way or a player. Keeping everyone focused and maintaining the respect of your team as a leader is a huge part of success. Allegri didn't have that. Period. He was no alpha.

With that said, 'incompetent' he is NOT. Specifically on the tactics part. It's almost like he'd make a better assistant coach. eh. whatevs
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+1 on motivation
 
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General said:
With that said, 'incompetent' he is NOT. Specifically on the tactics part. It's almost like he'd make a better assistant coach. eh. whatevs
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I don't quiet understand this abstract term "he was a great tactician".
I don't remember anything great except for maybe that one Barcelona game.

Besides that, his record against big teams spoke for itself. 0 derby wins under Allergy for 3 seasons.
 
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forward said:
I don't quiet understand this abstract term "he was a great tactician".
I don't remember anything great except for maybe that one Barcelona game.

Besides that, his record against big teams spoke for itself. 0 derby wins under Allergy for 3 seasons.
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Naw. You're forgetting a lot of good things.

The most notable was the switch to the 4-3-3 and the second half run that finished 3rd. allegri earned some credit points there.

If you don't agree. That's fine.
 
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Naw. You're forgetting a lot of good things.

The most notable was the switch to the 4-3-3 and the second half run that finished 3rd. allegri earned some credit points there.

If you don't agree. That's fine.
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Thats funny, why are you emphasizing one half of a season over another as if he didnt coach the team for the entire year?

If we were in that form when the season began we could have won the league. Youre patting the guys back for doing his job for 6 month even though he should have been doing that from the beginning.

Its like giving an employee a raise after he slacked off for half his time employed only to start being competent at his job the remaining half.

To add insult to injury, after coming from a motivational high, after this so-called tactical evolution of the 433 and the first summer in years to begin at an earlier time so tactics and fitness are straight, he gets sacked 6 months later.
 
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Oh dude- the guy earned his sacking...

Allegri hero or villain aren't the only choices here in the opinion scale.

Senatore had it right. He was good/ok/terrible/back to ok/back to terrible


After a few years.. It was just time to move on.
 
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Oh dude- the guy earned his sacking...

Allegri hero or villain aren't the only choices here in the opinion scale.

Senatore had it right. He was good/ok/terrible/back to ok/back to terrible


After a few years.. It was just time to move on.
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No one is saying the the topic of allegri is black and white. But saying he had no weaknesses tactically is simply not true. Not saying he's the worst coach out there, he won two trophies after all so its got to count for something. But hes not the most competent manager tactically in europe is all im sayng
 
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Pharaoh said:
No one is saying the the topic of allegri is black and white. But saying he had no weaknesses tactically is simply not true. Not saying he's the worst coach out there, he won two trophies after all so its got to count for something. But hes not the most competent manager tactically in europe is all im sayng
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He's not as weak over the course of his tenure as people make him out to be.
 
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He's not as weak over the course of his tenure as people make him out to be.
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Weak enough to have an average champions league campaign, declining annual team table finish and piss poor record against big teams both domestic and abroad,no?
 
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The fuck... Wherever I go, the two of you are bickering.


G, this has to end.
 
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