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Old 18-04-2015, 04:36   #5921
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you can say that nesta was the best pure cb, where as baresi and beckenbaur were sweepers.
This makes sense bro.

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All those lists I read, almost all stated that Beckenbauer is the best CB in history. Beckenbauer himself said that he thinks Nesta is the best CB in history, can't find the link, but I'm sure he said that because I remember the boner I got.

I guess (sadly) you have to be a real defense connoisseur (*tags Sven*) to see what a Nesta is.

It's simples with Nesta really. He's a CB. And thou shall not pass.

Brute force... and at the same time so elegant and magnificent.
Nice.

But I love Nesta. I have been trying to find a jersey with his name that isn't ridiculously overpriced but no luck yet.

Nesta as a pure CB (like Tantalis said) is the best of his generation hands down. He's much better than Cannavaro because before Nesta went down against the Czech Republic; Nesta outclassed him vs. Ghana and the U.S. Not to mention Nesta was much more complete and consistent at club level in comparison to that bald midget. That Balon d'Or he won will never put him above Nesta no matter how much people want to say it does.

Baresi I think was a better reader of the game but Nesta wasn't too far behind. If we take all things into account Nesta is perhaps the perfect CB in that he has the smarts and the body to go along with it. He is a great reader of the game, great interceptor, excellent tackler, good header, and was very fast.

This video shows his speed and how well he intercepted plays...even while in motion. So if we're referring to him as the best CB (not sweeper); then he definitely is.



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Just look at Thiago Silva with and without a Nesta beside him. Light years of difference.
Yup. That should tell people how irreplaceable Nesta was in our defense. We never looked for a player to replace him and we instead got Yepes who was only a stop gap.
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Old 18-04-2015, 04:45   #5922
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Baresi I think was a better reader of the game but Nesta wasn't too far behind.
I don't think he was. Doesn't make Baresi less of a defender, just shows what kind of superpower Nesta was in defense.

What Baresi had on Nesta was his attacking skills. The attacking phase was probably Nesta's only "weakness".


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Old 18-04-2015, 05:06   #5923
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I don't think he was. Doesn't make Baresi less of a defender, just shows what kind of superpower Nesta was in defense.

What Baresi had on Nesta was his attacking skills. The attacking phase was probably Nesta's only "weakness".
We can agree to disagree MB. I personally think Baresi modernized defending and specifically how to man mark on set pieces. He was a small man (5'9) so instead of trying to out-jump opponents; he would use timing and leverage to beat players and completely take a player out of the game. Maradona himself comments on how he was the best defender he faced.

Nesta was a very capable attacker though even if it was a "weakness" of his. I think his greatest shortcoming is the distribution of the ball. He was a very good passer but not a good distributor. Doesn't make him any less of a complete player because he had everything else.
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Old 18-04-2015, 05:11   #5924
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"Consistently good"

lol
I'm talking in comparison to Beckenbauer, who had Schwarzenbeck next to him his whole life

God dammit MB


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Old 18-04-2015, 05:20   #5925
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One thing I feel is criminally understated when talking about Nesta - he was consistently good with different CB partners.
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I'm talking in comparison to Beckenbauer, who had Schwarzenbeck next to him his whole life

God dammit MB
Beckenbauer is overrated defensively tbh. His attacking skills are superb but his defense was not on par with Nesta's or Baresi's. But good observation Jammin I forgot Nesta played with many different CB and maintained a high level with each one (even in his older years and despite his back injuries). He was the last of the great Italian defenders to retire
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Old 18-04-2015, 09:08   #5926
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even nadal, hierro, bruce and sammer were better organisers than nesta
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Old 18-04-2015, 09:09   #5927
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Old 18-04-2015, 09:19   #5928
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Mrh i would take materazzi over him cause he was more influential for club and country.
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Old 18-04-2015, 10:00   #5929
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his penalty kick were awesome.


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Old 18-04-2015, 18:31   #5930
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Allan are you The Man From Earth?
No I ain't that old.

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Mrh i would take materazzi over him cause he was more influential for club and country.
A couple good matches won't put Materazzi in the elite tier of Italian defenders.
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Old 18-04-2015, 18:36   #5931
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Mrh i would take materazzi over him cause he was more influential for club and country.
Are you actually being serious?
Nesta was a different level to Materazzi.

And injuries aside, Nesta always performed for his country. Euro 2000 stands out in particular, he was amazing at that tournament.


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Old 18-04-2015, 18:45   #5932
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Are you actually being serious?
Nesta was a different level to Materazzi.

And injuries aside, Nesta always performed for his country. Euro 2000 stands out in particular, he was amazing at that tournament.

ofcourse not. i was just taking a dig at some people who overvalue the importance and prestige of the world cup.
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Old 18-04-2015, 18:47   #5933
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ofcourse not. i was just taking a dig at some people who overvalue the importance and prestige of the world cup.
Ah okay.

Pardon my outburst so.


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Old 04-05-2015, 19:58   #5934
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hope they play together today :'-)
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Old 04-05-2015, 21:11   #5935
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I miss Nesta. He will always be a Milan great for me. A great CB and you notice now more than ever with the lack of quality in our team.


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Old 06-05-2015, 19:12   #5936
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i miss you nesta :'-)
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Old 09-05-2015, 01:22   #5937
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Gattuso: "It makes me laugh when I hear that we are a team that can finish second or third."
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Old 04-07-2015, 20:13   #5938
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11.04.2007 - Bayern Monaco vs Milan 0 - 2

Alessandro Nesta sovrasta Makaay, sotto lo sguardo vigile di capitan Maldini. La partita finir? con la vittoria del Milan per 2-0, grazie all'uno-due firmato da Seedorf e Inzaghi.
ORGOGLIO CASCIAVIT e FORZA MILAN!



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