Gli Azzurri - La Nazionale, Italy National Football Team

ladro · Mar 22, 2015

Gabiadini has been surprisingly very good for Napoli tbf

necromancer said:
Huh? What exactly is wrong with that squad list?

Why are you all going hysterical?

Balotello fans are mad. I think it's fair thoe. Eder is indeed better.

Massaro94 · Mar 22, 2015

ladro said:
Gabiadini has been surprisingly very good for Napoli tbf

Balotello fans are mad. I think it's fair thoe. Eder is indeed better.

I didn't even realise Balo hadn't been picked :eek:

From taking them all the way to the final of Euro 2012.... to not getting picked in 2015

necromancer · Mar 22, 2015

Balotelli has scored 4 goals this entire season. Italy still not certain about the starting forwards. Obviously Conte will try out different guys like Eder and Gabbiadini. These matches are opportunities to do that.

Polotelli · Mar 22, 2015

I can understand why you would not want to call up Balo, at this point
but under the circumstances and seeing the other options I think it's BS

But Balo left out is far from the only problem I have with this selection
this selection makes me wanna cry on how bad Italia has become

I know there is 1 friendly game so it's a good time to experiment, but still

Mario · Mar 22, 2015

Gabbiadini is having a great season, why is anyone surprised? Hes a great talent

Vazquez :thumbsup:

Love this guy

Immobile, Moretti and Eder don't know what they're doing in the squad

necromancer · Mar 22, 2015

There's no but still here, Conte is paid to do exactly this. If he stuck to the same old guys, he wouldn't be doing his job.

Italy are far away from putting together a competitive squad for 2016 France. These experiments are required for that.

Polotelli · Mar 22, 2015

Maybe I'm not giving a fair judgement, I haven't really been following the football world this year but someone help me comprehend all this

The reason why De Sciglio, Abate, Pirlo, G. Rossi & El Shaarawy aren't there are because of injuries/condition (let's assume they would have been picked up)

But what about De Rossi, Criscito, Jorginho, Insigne, Bonaventura, ...

Friendly or not, at this point I would consider to call some of the old guard back up, like t.Motta, Totti, Toni, Di Natale and even Quagliarella, lol

I hate it when he picks players, who are currently are having a great moment, but obviously wont keep this up for a long time, same happend to Ogbonna, Santon, Poli, Destro, Paloschi, Berardi, Borini, Sansone, Okaka, ...

I'm still glad he overlooked players like Astori, Paletta, Bonera, Maggio, Aquilani, Giaccherini, Pepe, Mauri, Amauri, Gilardino & Osvaldo tho

He was always being stupid for calling up Giovinco, but now he left Ladri and the country, he suddenly isn't an option anymore?

What has Cerci really done to deserve a call up? Pelle has been shit since 2015, Immobile hasn't been great either and I can't take Eder & Vazquez even serious. Ranocchia is a joke, for Moretti he makes an exception, I thought Barzagli only just returned? I don't even know Soriano, ...

Soldier_of_god · Mar 22, 2015

Polo said:
Maybe I'm not giving a fair judgement, I haven't really been following the football world this year but someone help me comprehend all this

The reason why De Sciglio, Abate, Pirlo, G. Rossi & El Shaarawy aren't there are because of injuries/condition (let's assume they would have been picked up)

But what about De Rossi, Criscito, Jorginho, Insigne, Bonaventura, ...

Friendly or not, at this point I would consider to call some of the old guard back up, like t.Motta, Totti, Toni, Di Natale and even Quagliarella, lol

I hate it when he picks players, who are currently are having a great moment, but obviously wont keep this up for a long time, same happend to Ogbonna, Santon, Poli, Destro, Paloschi, Berardi, Borini, Sansone, Okaka, ...

I'm still glad he overlooked players like Astori, Paletta, Bonera, Maggio, Aquilani, Giaccherini, Pepe, Mauri, Amauri, Gilardino & Osvaldo tho

He was always being stupid for calling up Giovinco, but now he left Ladri and the country, he suddenly isn't an option anymore?

What has Cerci really done to deserve a call up? Pelle has been shit since 2015, Immobile hasn't been great either and I can't take Eder & Vazquez even serious. Ranocchia is a joke, for Moretti he makes an exception, I thought Barzagli only just returned? I don't even know Soriano, ...

surely you put bonera there to troll :lol:

. Agree with everything except for the omitting osvaldo and aquilani part. These two are quite useful and would be good options to have on the bench since they all have excellent technical skills. Same goes for giovinco.

Raz · Mar 22, 2015

Where the fuck is Poli?

Mario · Mar 22, 2015

Seems like a lot of people don't know Vazquez.. you'll be in for a pleasant surprise

SpartanMilan · Mar 22, 2015

I dont see what the problem is... he is rotating players into the squad to see if anyone makes a strong case and sticks.

Sure there are a few players I would have rather seen called up. Jorginho and Berrardi probably top that lst.

But he is bringing some other pieces more into the fold. V?zquez is leading the league in assists and also has 7 goals. Gabbiadini has 10 goals. Valdifiori and Bertolacci have played very well and have 6 assists.

For all the bitching you guys have done about Conte since he got appointed, in the 6 games he has been in charge, Italy has 5 wins and a draw.

Maybe... just maybe... he knows what he is doing.

Massaro94 · Mar 22, 2015

Razvalinho said:
Where the fuck is Poli?

It's only a friendly

FNF · Mar 22, 2015

SpartanMilan said:
I dont see what the problem is... he is rotating players into the squad to see if anyone makes a strong case and sticks.

Sure there are a few players I would have rather seen called up. Jorginho and Berrardi probably top that lst.

But he is bringing some other pieces more into the fold. V?zquez is leading the league in assists and also has 7 goals. Gabbiadini has 10 goals. Valdifiori and Bertolacci have played very well and have 6 assists.

For all the bitching you guys have done about Conte since he got appointed, in the 6 games he has been in charge, Italy has 5 wins and a draw.

Maybe... just maybe... he knows what he is doing.

Agreed. I think the only call up that really has me at a loss is Moretti. Everyone else is justified, especially if he's experimenting.

Edit: Scratch that, Cerci being called up is odd as well.

yagami7gnr · Mar 22, 2015

Polo said:
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus), Mattia Perin (Genoa), Salvatore Sirigu (Paris Saint-Germain)

Defenders: Giorgio Chiellini, Leonardo Bonucci, Andrea Barzagli (Juventus), Emiliano Moretti (Torino), Andrea Ranocchia (Internazionale), Luca Antonelli (AC Milan), Matteo Darmian (Torino), Manuel Pasqual (Fiorentina)

Midfielders: Marco Parolo, Antonio Candreva (Lazio), Claudio Marchisio (Juventus), Alessandro Florenzi (Roma), Andrea Bertolacci (Genoa), Roberto Soriano (Sampdoria), Marco Verratti (Paris Saint-Germain), Mirko Valdifiori (Empoli).

Forwards: Alessio Cerci (AC Milan), Ciro Immobile (Borussia Dortmund), Simone Zaza (Sassuolo), Graziano Pell? (Southampton), Eder (Sampdoria), Manolo Gabbiadini (Napoli) en Franco V?zquez (Palermo).

Seriously WTF is this shit???

Players that are really questionable

FNF · Mar 22, 2015

Barzagli is whatever really. There aren't many other options apart from Rugani maybe.

Florenzi has been going through a rough time but he's a versatile and decent player regardless. He did very well against Ladri last time they played iirc.

Ciro was motm in his last start and is in double figures for the season now. 10 goals in 17 starts isn't a bad return considering the circumstances so he needs to be cut some slack imo. Even most Dortmund fans i've seen have been pretty forgiving of him (it's Miki who gets most of the shit over there in terms of players who are under performing).

Polotelli · Mar 23, 2015

Barzagli is his mate, of course he was gonna be there, he rather experiments with an "experienced" Moretti than a Rugani, but Rannocchia is even the biggest joke there.

Soldier_of_god · Mar 23, 2015

Always wanted ciro immobile over destro here but his name scares me cause it surmises how well we play in general
Imagine a winger with the name andrea slow lol. Feels the same with immobile.

SpartanMilan · Mar 23, 2015

I dont disagree Moretti is an odd call. There are a handful of other CBs that would seem to make more long term sense and are playing better.

I dont have an issue with Cerci or Immobile. Both are not in good form, but are great when in form, so could use a boost in confidence

Dottore Joey · Mar 23, 2015

To never use Poli, would be a greater victory for Italy than winning the Euro 16'

FNF · Mar 23, 2015

RnB thought the same of Parolo last season/World Cup and now he is playing pretty amazing... We'll see what happens when we get a decent coach in and some organisation in the side.

jammin · Mar 23, 2015

FNF said:
RnB thought the same of Parolo last season/World Cup and now he is playing pretty amazing... We'll see what happens when we get a decent coach in and some organisation in the side.

Yes hopefully Poli can become the new Marco Parolo

Sage · Mar 23, 2015

hopefully he can be 1/4 as good as parolo, then we can sell him to a serie a side.

FNF · Mar 23, 2015

1/10 guys.

Polotelli · Mar 23, 2015

Mancini: ?No oriundi for Italy?

Inter Coach Roberto Mancini believes the likes of Franco Vazquez and Eder should not have been given Italy calls. Eder was born in Brazil, while Vazquez is Argentinian by birth, however both qualify for the Nazionale through relatives, the latest in a series of so-called ?oriundi? - an immigrant of native ancestry.

Notable oriundi include World Cup winner Mauro Camoranesi and current Azzurri midfielder Thiago Motta, but Mancini is not a fan of the system. ?The Italian national team must be Italian,? Mancini insisted as he arrived for a meeting of Serie A clubs. ?Those who aren?t born in Italy but have distant relatives shouldn?t be called-up, that?s my opinion.?

Causio: ?Not convinced by Conte?

Former Italian international Franco Causio says he?s ?not convinced? by Antonio Conte?s latest squad, and echoes Roberto Mancini. Mancio said earlier today that he does not believe oriundi - people born outside of Italy, but of Italian descent - should play for the Azzurri and Causio agrees.

Conte defends oriundi

Antonio Conte has defended his decision to select oriundi Eder and Franco Vazquez in his latest Italy squad. The move has come in for criticism from the likes of Roberto Mancini and Franco Causio, but the Azzurri CT insists it?s nothing out of the ordinary. ?I can say that I?m not the first, and I won?t be the last to call-up these ?oriundi?,?

Conte told journalists in his Press conference ahead of the Bulgaria qualifier. ?In the past there have been several players like [Mauro] Camoranesi, [Gabriel] Paletta, [Cristian] Ledesma, Amauri? ?Suffice to say that at the last World Cup, 83 players out of over 700 were oriundi. These are the rules. ?It?s inevitable that controversy can always be created, but I respect all opinions.

I haven?t done anything strange that hasn?t been done in the past. ?I decided to call these players, I?ll evaluate them and decide whether to give them a cap or not. ?It?s the same in every country, there?s always a debate about the national team. "Vazquez has an Italian mother, and feels Italian. Italy cannot be a fallback for people who don't get into their own national team. "Eder and Vazquez are doing well in the League, and I wanted to evaluate them, which I'd gladly have done at the [proposed] training camp. "That wasn't possible, so now I want to evaluate them and see if they can offer something important."

Where do you guys stand on this?

FNF · Mar 23, 2015

I'm 50/50 on the issue, but at the end of the day talent should trump other factors like 'nationality'.

Just curious though- Does Eder have Italian ancestry?

Sage · Mar 23, 2015

amauri call up was hilarious :lol:

FNF · Mar 23, 2015

Just read the post closer and Eder does apparently have Italian ancestry but what's the problem with players like Vasquez who are Italian on one side of their family? If Mancini is referring to him he's an idiot...

Soldier_of_god · Mar 23, 2015

Lot of argentianian players have italian-esque surnames. Are their ancestors italian?

btw vasquez has 8 assists and hit the wood work 7 times. astonishing stat.

Allan_Sombrero · Mar 23, 2015

milan_swagger said:
Lot of argentianian players have italian-esque surnames. Are their ancestors italian?

Yup. Many of the Argentinians I've met look Italian as well.

"There are more than 24 millions of Argentinian citizens who have Italian roots, making it around 60% of the country population. They came to South America in different generations. Many of them during the great European immigration wave to Argentina at the end of 19th century and the beginning of the 20th. Italian immigration was an important part of that, as between 1880-1920 Italy was facing social and economic disturbances."

FNF · Mar 23, 2015

milan_swagger said:
Lot of argentianian players have italian-esque surnames. Are their ancestors italian?

"Vazquez has an Italian mother".

And Vazquez is practically nothing like an Italian surname my man

And what Allan said.

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